how do i solve this?
How do i solve this?
Zachary Green
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Bentley Lopez
Tough question. I've been pondering a similar sort of game design problem myself.
Theres a lot of problems to solve, mostly about player agency, moderation, interaction.
SS13 is a lot more player driven, among us is more mechanically based. You can hop into a random lobby of literal children in among us and it works, SS13 less so.
I'd like to keep this thread alive so I'll leave my two cents on the topic there. It's an interesting topic honestly.
Jack Allen
town of salem or ttt?
Jordan Ortiz
unfortunate spacemen
Jeremiah Scott
town of salem exists on the exact section of this graph that among us does and TTT doesn't really have the roleplaying or responsibilities that you have on SS13
James Murphy
I wonder if exploring the topic with another axis involved would help - Systems.
I can't decide if I like SS13 more for it's complex interaction of systems and the emergent gameplay that enables, or if it's the roleplaying side of things.
Basically: Does OPs (and our) ideal game exist without those complex systems, or are they integral?
Samuel Torres
this basicly
also ss13 has a sort of pve aspect to it with all the jobbie stuff where you can quite literally just seal yourself off from the rest of the players and "do your job" to unlock all the cool shit if there is any
Dominic Foster
Dwarf fortress when there are werebeasts in your fort.
Asher Cook
you have
>epic mafia
>trouble in terrorist town
>unfortunate spaceman
>town of salem
this is entire genre of games
some better some worse
but you will find one you like
Levi Parker
This for a more action oriented version.
Hell you could even just make a non-fps version with better tasks and simpler graphics (for easier customization) to get the ideal experience
Joshua Sanchez
Barotrauma
Robert Powell
Stop comparing games to a hypothetical perfect game that only exists in your head, and compare them to other games that do exist.
Samuel Reed
thank you, child poster
Gavin Ortiz
>someone makes penis sub as a joke
>someone else makes it functional
>we man the giant penis but its too fucking big for the cave generation and gets stuck half the time
>molochs come and rape everyone
good times
Juan Green
barotrauma, ss13 and unfortunate spacemen are pretty much the cream of the crop regarding this niche 'genre' of job rp on a spaceship/submarine..
fuck bros.. wish there were more like this to appease my autism.
Parker Howard
Ss13 is perfect but those who run servers are pure libshit censoring cancer.
Owen Hughes
hippie station is the only good one regarding the idea of fucking around with (almost) no rules
Jace Thompson
Mitadake High.
Too bad it no longer exists.
Carson Stewart
Rules are good but 90% of high population servers will censor you.
Eli Lopez
90% of high population servers have no-fun admins.
you can literally kill someone out of confusion and get banned, when in an rp-scenario it is literally fully understandable.
Christopher Johnson
I'd like to play SS13 but not on that piece of shit BYOND thing
Andrew Bailey
don't be a baby you'll get used to it, or you can wait for SS14
Christopher White
hippiewas my fav serb, but nowdays the pop is way too low. How do I fill the void? Are there other servers like it?
Jeremiah Jackson
The problem is mafia-games are precisely the kind of games where you really don't to be unsure what you're doing going in, or for that matter have players in your game who themselves are unsure. A big part of Among Us's success is the devs making the game relatively easy to understand.
I guess a big solution there is to tie it into the role based nature of the game. Have it so there are some roles in the game which are intentionally simplified, maybe even make it so they're unable to be imposters and have it so they're the ones new players have to pick starting out with the more complex roles being unlocked when it becomes apparent the player gets how the game works.
Jose Phillips
i think what i really want is SS13 on just a different engine that makes it not terrible to control or look at
Dominic Jenkins
Kiwi Farms as a server now using forked tgstation gamer words allowed.
David Scott
it's counter-intuitive to make roles that cannot be antagonist unless the role has enough access/authority to make antagonism game-breaking, such as heads of staff in SS13. players can and will metagame to determine who is an antagonist based on what roles people have.
retard
Carson Lopez
Oh goody, an excuse to link this vid
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Grayson Powell
Mafia-type games is mostly technical. It's all about knowing what each role does and figuring out who is what role. It's its weakness but also it's strong point. It's really an apples to oranges comparison since Among Us and Mafia games are made with different people in mind.
Ethan Perry
>players can and will metagame to determine who is an antagonist based on what roles people have
Well yeah you can kind of roll with that. Unless you think it's absolutely important that every player can be a potential suspect.
Having said that, actually I guess it wouldn't be that hard just to have a system where new players aren't picked to be imposters. You aren't going to know whose new to the game at a glance after all. Hell skilled imposters might even pretend to be new to mislead others into thinking they couldn't have been made imposter.
Grayson Hill
Flicker on Roblox
Matthew Campbell
>no 3D murder mystery with trial elements and good clues after a murder
Could be the perfect game based off pic related