Criminalizes and hunts down literally the only people capable of stopping the horde of orcs and their dragon leader

I did in one playthrough where I decided I wasn't going to romance anyone and since I wanted to live for Awakening I hardened alistair, had him marry anora, recruited and sacrificed loghain
Really, though, it seems like the best scenario lore wise is to just bang morrigan for everyone's sake

History sees him as a redeemed hero if you do that

You don't. You learn afterwards, all Riodran tells you when the option to kill him comes up is that it's super cereal you let him join the Wardens, guys.

Doesn't the books and other media proved him right tho?
The orlesians were planning another invasion, and cailan was already simping for the empress since anora is a barren cunt

He was disgusted with the current King who was about to bed the queen of the empire he just sent packing decades b4 the game started. He also didn't take the darkspawn threat seriously.

The Grey Wardens honestly could've saved so much trouble for themselves if they were just transparent about their shit more

you want to know the real reason?
NuBioware is not exactly the best at writing things that make sense.

He didn't know WHY they were needed

If grey warden weren't so secretive about how to defeat a blight people would be much more prepared for blights
>inb4 no one would join

You saw what happened with Jory, right?

>Orlesian woman
Anora is the daughter of Loghain, she's not Orlesian

It's hard to say if it would have mattered much considering Loghain's actions throughout the story. Even with just the general idea that the GW's were "needed" to stop the Blight, he was more than happy to let all of the Ferelden Warden's die, close the borders to the one's in Orleis, and imprison any that were already in the country.

Thedas is more prepared for Blights, actually. The original Blights took upwards of an entire century to stop, while the last one took around 15 years give or take.

You mean when Duncan kept everything a secret and dumped it on him at the very last second

oh I don't just mean with the blight in fereldan I mean in general

Would he have even come there otherwise?

Didn't you hear? Cailan was planning on divorcing Anora to marry Empress Celene of Orlais.

And i also saw what happened with daveth, people like jory would never think about joining in the first place if they knew the truth, only those willing to do anything to defeat the blight, and morrigan proved you can survive anyway, wardens are just lazy and don't investigate about alternatives

No he wasn't. He literally stopped talking to Eamon for over a year because Eamon suggested to dump that barren slag Anora.

Remind me, where did Morrigan learn that from?

No. Did you even watch Jory's scene when he freaked out?
He was an utter idiot in the first place. He joined a group that was known for their own mortality in the first place for glory. And when it came time to deal with the super natural that is out of their comfort zone he shattered. He wouldn't have made a good warden. If he couldn't handle the blood how would he have possibly handled the sight of the archdemon? No. How could he have handled the sight of even a fucking Ogre? That's why there needs more transparency so those who do join willingly are a breed above the rest and know the sacrifices required of them.

tfw did the ending where the warden lives

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He didn't know he was in a bad video game plot.

>Bioware writers
>Hamburger Helper

It's always been shit.

Basically what i said here But better written, thanks bro glad to see im not the only one who thinks secrecy is retarded, specially when the world's at stake

>don't tell people you have a 50% chance to die if you try to join via a suicide ritual
>people who aren't willing to do the ritual come, they aren't willing to do the ritual, they die - whoever you just recruited them from lost one of their most elite soldiers for no reason
>people who are willing to do the suicide ritual come, 50% of them live

>tell people about the suicide ritual
>people who aren't willing to do the ritual don't come, and therefore can remain elite soldiers elsewhere
>people who are willing to do the ritual come, 50% of them survive

The secrecy is just a way to preserve personal political power for the Wardens while not only failing to do their one actual purpose (helping the world avoid the blight by informing the world of a way to fight it) but also letting hundreds of new recruits die pointlessly

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So will the blight stop when all the tevinter gods are dead? Or just any wild dragon would do? They should hunt all dragons to extinction just to be sure

You guys are forgetting the fact that being a Warden doesn't automatically make you better at killing Darkspawn, or even a better fighter in general. It allows you to sense them, yes, but there's a reason Duncan himself was so selective in his recruitment and wasn't just picking up any mug off the street. Every failed Joining is quite literally another soldier dead that could have been better spent being a normal infantrymen.
Besides, we've already seen what GW's with a greater and less selective recruitment program gets you, and that's Warden's Keep which ended up with the entire Order being outlawed for a while.

I always got the feeling that secrecy was kept because then the grey wardens would be accused of being under the control of the archdemons and be hunted down to the last for it, or be forced into a situation not unlike the mages with the templars. Either way, without secrecy, their fucked.

why does bioware keep changing the protagonist in each game?

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>You guys are forgetting the fact that being a Warden doesn't automatically make you better at killing Darkspawn, or even a better fighter in general.
Who said it does? The mentality that comes with being a grey warden is the strong part.
>but there's a reason Duncan himself was so selective in his recruitment and wasn't just picking up any mug off the street.
Of course not, I agree it'd be stupid to just pick anyone up. It is also stupid to pick up weak willed people and trick them that will do nothing but hurt you in the long run

>you might die if you drink this, you will die when you kill the archdemon, and if you don't you only have about 20 years to live
That's all they need to say

I mean, it kind of is, ain't it? The Joining itself is more or less a very extended ghoulifcation process. With the Calling basically being voluntary suicide before you can become a Darkspawn yourself, right?

I fucking killed this faggot and had his daughter sent to the tower for being a total bitch and betraying me at the lands meet.

So you're saying that even though throughout history, Grey Wardens who are known to hunt and destroy archdemons, would be accused of throwing their lot in with them? I don't agree with that part that sounds like some zootopia shit where the herbivores look at themselves at say ''hey wait, carnivores eat meat....'' and then only have a problem with them now even though there hasn't been any conflict

Not in my ending. I humiliated him and forced to die by poison. I sacrificed myself to ensure they remember me as man who slayed the demon and saved the country.

Now why would anyone willingingly become a Warden when there isn't a Blight?

He did nothing wrong.