Art doesn't need to be beautiful

Art doesn't need to be beautiful.
Music doesn't need to be catchy.
Literature doesn't need to be clever or witty.
Movies don't need good actors.

Therefore, video games don't need to be fun.

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But TLOU is fun, it's the story people are cranky about. The games are solid

The gameplay in Part II was wonderful and very fun, shame about the story though.

>Buys a movie
>”I play for the gameplay”

if it isn't fun it's shit

Play the game you dumbass, not just a movie

Something I noticed but really hate "beautiful" art. Everything has to be ugly and negative.

unironically correct on all counts, a game can definitely be good without being fun. I just have yet to find one that I want to play through to completion.

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he really wanted those awards, didn't he

Incel tears thread? Incel tears thread!!

As a global gaming citizen, I am so proud of this community for awarding games that really push boundaries and try something bold and new. GOTY well deserved, TLoU2!

I genuinely have never seen what was wrong with this statement. Is it nonsensical only cause insufferable "please take my video games seriously" man is associated with it?

and if a game isn't fun I won't play it so it's fine

Yeah, in all of those cases it is bad examples of those things. So it would be a bad video game, but still a video game.

entertainment is what people do for fun
some people hammer nails into their balls for fun
I don't know where this post is going but it doesnt matter

>cinematic experience won
Apparently video games don't need to be video games either

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It's video so, you don't really need the game part of it.

art is a reflection of life. to understand art, one needs to understand life.
art is a reflection of who you are and who you want to be. art is a reflection of the memories and imagination that has culminated throughout your entire life for your memories and imagination define your life.
if you're not beautiful and want to be confident in not being beautiful, then the art will not be beautiful.
if you're not a fun loving person and want to be confident in not being a fun loving person, then the art will not be enjoyable. it will make you uncomfortable.

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you can still be entertained even if it isn't strictly "fun"
yume nikki isn't what I'd exactly call fun nor is it really trying to be since it's a literal walking sim for most of the time but I still was entertained by it

You know that dude is a psychopath right?

I hate TLOU but these are all true

Videogames will never be art. Not even modern art is art. Understand and accept this or kys asap.

I've only played the first but it was basically just a solid resident evil game with more cutscenes. You just don't know what you're talking about, i'm sorry.

A video game needs to be a game.

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He freaking killed Jole and then he said that Jole once did something bad even though I only ever saw him do awesome stuff

no the analogy you failed at is that video games don't need good gameplay. that is what lines up with your previous phrases. retard

Its pretty much the statement almost all snobby entertainers use.Quick question how many times per year does an average person watch twin peaks?But the office?Most people want to relax after work not spent 20 minutes analyse why Abbie has a male body.

>10 hours of cutscenes + 10 hours of "game" with a fuckton of dialogues in it
Go play an actual videogame instead.

"Movies don't need good actors" also didn't match, truly some low-IQ shit

when did this board because so fucking gay

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>Therefore, video games don't need to be fun.
Correct, they need to be good, and TLOU 2 is not.

Does it stop being a third-person shooter because the characters talk while shooting? Why wouldn't that be preferable to a cutscene?

snobby fartsniffers aside the statement still isn't wrong by itself.

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They don't need to be fun but you'll just get a shit game as a result.

Everything you listed aside from movies is false.

>it was bad on purpose

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Why do you want it this way?

The video game equivalent of postmodernism. Art celebrated by no one but the artist and insiders. Hopefully it will develop into the same clear divide as in the art world - Art people enjoy and art that pretends to be enjoyed that can be sectioned off and avoided by anyone with half a brain cell.

>BTFO Zig Forums left and right
How can a man be so based?

I’ve given up hating on this stuff long ago, it’s clear things won’t ever change and it’s better to accept this now and adapt.

N-no, you have to disagree because Jew Jewman's pic is next to it and he killed Joel

I made a typo. It's what Jews do I mean. They hate anything beautiful

He has the ball to says that because he already has the money and is in a position to be able to say so.
Trying making an unfun video game in your garage while the debt is piling up every day.
Sure video game can be fun / unfun. But thinking that an unfun "serious" game is better than fun games is pretty pretentious.

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Probably because the story is shit and the characters are uninteresting zero charisma ones, so better if they shut up.

user, "they" control the world, what did you expect?

Does need to be playable though

I mean yeah, you can be as mediocre as you want, just don't pretend that what you made is any good. If your movie has shitty actors then I'm going to call it trash.