This is poor game design

this is poor game design.

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What does it do?

isaac in general has a shitload of bad decisions

Coins have a 10% chance to be replaced with sacks. Bombs, keys, cards, runes, and batteries have a 20% chance.
This includes pickups spawned by most sources: room rewards, chests, slot machines, special shopkeepers, etc.
The exception to this are pickups spawned by Isaac himself directly, e.g. with the likes of IV Bag IV Bag or Fanny Pack Fanny Pack, and contents of other sacks.
Spawns a sack upon pickup.

Basically one of those "lol free resources" items.

>no fun allowed

This is a great item, what's the problem?

It has a small chance each time a coin is spawned to spawn a sack that drops a bunch of resources, including coins.
Yes it can loop indefinitely theoretically.

Replaces the occasional pick-up with a sack. This could make objects and items that drop a very specific pickup also drop sacks. For example, blood banks could drop sacks instead of some coins. Since sacks may contain other pick ups, it could very easily fill up your bombs and keys reservoirs as well as provide you with whatever cards you like.

it and a few other items are unironically too good and centralize the game around shop rng

Who cares? The player is free to use it or not use it however they wish. Do you also complain about optional game breaking exploits in single player games?

There's a lot worse bullshit you could be complaining about in BoI, such as Cursed Eye, Soi Milk, half soul hearts purely to punish frequent resetters, the donation machine randomly breaking so you can't donate to the shop too quickly, the majority of cursed floors making the game more tedious and annoying to play rather than being challenging, HP scaling bossfights, bulletsponge enemies, etc.

Yet you pick one of the new beneficial items for the player.
I don't get it.

I prefer my roguelikes to be robustly balanced so that playing at my best doesn't feel cheap. Having to handicap myself to have fun is very lame.

>I prefer my roguelikes to be robustly balanced
why in the absolute fuck are you playing Binding of Isaac then?
Name one roguelike that you think is balanced. I'm curious.

Not him but Isaac has just as bad of an issue with being too generous as it does with anti-fun attempts at adding difficulty like what you listed. Every run is either absurdly slow or you can empty every room in frame one.

not having the fun broken items make the game more tedious, if I don't have 30+ coins by the third floor I reset

>centralize
>isaac
ok you never played that game, go back to youtube thinking your reactionguy idol is an expert in game design.

>I will say sentences that makes no sence, but since I talk about me they will kneel to my feelings and agree
You aren't on the good site for that mental manipulation, trannygoy.

you are just bad at the game and need crutches. You invented that whole "centralizing item" thing to excuse your poor skills and inability to make your builds correctly.

the game actively isn't fun if you have nothing but shit items

>I prefer my roguelikes to be robustly balanced
>roguelikes
>robustly balanced

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Missing the point, ability to break the game is core mechanic

the half soul heart shit is a meme that needs to die. If you look at the literal code of the game, they replace half red hearts and not complete soul hearts

binding of isaac as a whole is poor design
>most characters play the same
>item pool bloated by shitty gimmick items like robo baby 2.0 or plan c
>some items are so bad they ruin your run if you pick them up (curse of the tower, marked)
>some items are so good they instawin your run if you pick them up (mom's knife, tech x)
>pills are literally useless compared to cards
>dps is so important you get fucked if you have zero tears or dmg upgrades
>boss pool item goes from useless (mom range items, belly button) to extremely strong (magic mush, halo)
>curses are tedious and don't add any strategy except for "don't pick up anything" in curse of the blind
>some room designs aren't balanced around champions or slower characters (i once died in 3 secs as judas because i got surrounded by two champion gapers)
>you need to beat the game several times to unlock the true endings
>trinkets are almost useless except for a select few like cancer
>the only item description you get is a small sentence that shows up for 5 seconds, and some of them are either inaccurate or just say "???"
>last floors are literally boss rush
>the "superbosses" are just static sprites that shoot bullets at you
>badly made challenges like brains, speed, or ultra hard
>edmund's idea of difficulty being "lol less HP" (see the lost, keeper, blue baby, etc.)
>keeper having the worst unlocks in the game, making him a chore to play
>the absolute clusterfuck that is delirium and his floor

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>b.b.but I can't win without techX it's BAD DESIGN

>most characters play the same
this is the only lie in your post

half the fun of isaac is finding different ways to completely break the game

>most characters play the same
Have you even unlocked all the characters user? because it doesn't seem like it

Accurate. Game is too much about having 9 shit runs just to have that one really good 10th run. Applies to a lot of roguelikes but Isaac still takes the cake imo

>Roguelikes
>Robustly Balanced
Roguelikes are notorious for abusing systems to your advantage. Hell that's arguably part of the charm.

>roguelike

?
Isaac is a roguelike

then go do eden streaks where you need to deal with shit tear rate and damage every now and then

The Keeper is poor game design.

It's a roguelite, not a roguelike

>it doesn't look like shit so let me invent a word that sounds retarded for these kinds of games
nah, it's a roguelike

Isn't it an incredibly late game item you unlock for donating to shops? Who cares, have fun

not realy, your starting character wont get stronger the more you play.

I don't think I ever won a game because of "sack head", it just gives easier bombs and keys that can plentiful in a bunch of other ways like everything in Isaac.

I think the unlimited shop item is still the most op outta all of them

>what are unlockable starting trinkets and items

They do.

Not him but enter the gungeon
Good items help make the run easier but they don trivialise it like isaac does
Isaac is either
>have slow and shit damage entire run
>get so busted you kill everything in one hit
While in gungeon i can still die in later rooms even with the most op items if i dont watch out

>NOOO YOU CANT JUST PUT A GOOD ITEM IN THE GAME ALL ITEMS HAVE TO BE BULLSHIT IN SOME WAY REEE

not him but nuclear throne
albeit some characters are better for resetting, it's not really the target of the game

>what are unlockable shit items further muddying the pool

the few trinkets don't count and the item pool dilution just makes you weaker.

and fucking gungeon is
>have slow and shit damage entire run
no matter if you have generic same gun #254 or generic same gun #459

hot take: mom's knife should be removed. It's insanely boring to use, and overrides almost every tear modifier and effect.

You havent played since the new updates so your opinion is null and void
All guns do good damage now

Low DPS just makes every fight a chore

yeah sorry i don't eat shit, tried it once when it came it probably the worst rougelike i've ever played. Never touching it again

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>most characters play the same
Only the starter roaster that is literally to make the player familiar. Want the normal mode? Play as Isaac or Lazarus, want easy mode? Play as Azazel, Samson, or have more health with Madelaine? Want to get into skill? Play as Eve or Judas.

And this is just the starter roaster, later you get restrictive harder characters like Blue Baby, Lost and Keeper, some other gimmick characters like Abbadon and playstyle changers like Lilith and Forgotten. Each character has key itens to get in a run that will make it easier or harder. It isn't the same.

>item pool bloated by shitty gimmick items like robo baby 2.0 or plan c
You need to unlock challenges for that. Unironically as a meta-pro-gamer, I only unlocked the Jera and
>some items are so bad they ruin your run if you pick them up (curse of the tower, marked)
It's a roguelike, retard. Also, both can be useful and marked is not even a bad item, shitter.
>some items are so good they instawin your run if you pick them up (mom's knife, tech x)
Mom's knife is trash synergy killer, any item that change your tear for another thing (brimstone, the tech itens, mom's knife) is a synergy killer. Also, overpowered itens is part of a roguelike.
>pills are literally useless compared to cards
He doesn't know...
>dps is so important you get fucked if you have zero tears or dmg upgrades
Agreed.
>boss pool item goes from useless (mom range items, belly button) to extremely strong (magic mush, halo)
The only shitty itens are itens that is just a glorified chest.
>curses are tedious and don't add any strategy except for "don't pick up anything" in curse of the blind
Aside from maze that only wastes your time, every other curse adds an additional challenge.
>some room designs aren't balanced around champions or slower characters (i once died in 3 secs as judas because i got surrounded by two champion gapers)
It happens, no game can take account for everything. But you could just run.

D6, D4, Holy Mantle.

Maybe on the base game but since the newest update there has been a complete rework of dps calculation and enemy health
You can kill most enemies with even the base gun rather quickly now

shit I might install it and give it another try, thank you