Back 4 Blood

>but it seems like it's still missing something
that would be the art direction and characters. this was discussed in the making of Portal. the people who made the puzzles were great designers, no question, but the game artistically looked like shit. Valve was the one to give it the look it got and the writers made Glados which made the game essentially perfect (in other words, Portal would have been just as good a puzzle game without Valve, but it wouldn't have been anywhere near as memorable).
this goes for all Valve games. the artists and (now ex)writers would compliment gameplay with fantastic design and characters. this goes for TF2 and L4D2.
i have no doubt B4B will be a good game. the people at Turtle Rock have been doing this for a while and are good designers. but it will be lacking in the looks/character department (when compared to L4D2).

>ads
WHY

WHY DO GAMES KEEP ADDING THIS TERRIBLE FEATURE

Reminder that most of the original L4D Characters also seemed Cringey on first release
Reminder that L4D 1/2 are both several years old
Reminder that Valve will never make a new game unless it's """"""""""""""""""""""unique""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

B4B will actually be a solid game if you have friends to play it with. If you're a solo baby without friends, then good luck

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I'm concerned about the monetization.

the zombies designs are more Resident evil like and the survivors look like they're from sunset overdrive the styles are clashing

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It should be noted as well that L4D1 is a onesided joke just like evolve when it comes to pvp. The survivors are grossly overpowered. This was somewhat fixed in the sequel which was entirely developed by valve

they have to pay the bills somehow

I mean if you just watch the l4d1 intro cinematic and then the one they showed for this game its night and day. Animations, voice acting, writing, shot composition, its completely soulless.
And then the gameplay isn't l4d, its killing floor. Handful of slow zombies, aiming down the sights with cheap sounding cod rifles.
I'm totally okay with someone coming and taking the l4d mantel from valve considering they aren't fucking touching the ip, but despite coming from the '''original creators''' what they showed couldn't feel further from l4d1 and 2.

they did say there's more playable survivors so i'm expecting skins at most

>black woman
I already do not care. L4D2 was unplayable because of Roach hell.

sauce?

I have thousands of hours in the L4D games and I was super hyped for Back 4 Blood after hearing about Turtle Rock's announcement. The gameplay trailer was super weak though, I feel really disappointed. Hopefully it's just because this is the pre-alpha, because I sure as hell don't want Turtle Rock Studio's death to come in the hands of a poorly made and rushed spinoff which was irresponsibly made (which it seems to be).

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I disagree. Survivors are even more overpowered in L4D2 thanks to melee weapons and the fact that they removed health bonus from the score calculations. In L4D2 survivors could just grab a melee weapon and rush to the safe room without any need for planning or caution.

>Reminder that Valve will never make a new game unless it's """"""""""""""""""""""unique""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
There isn't anything wrong with this though. 98% games serve no fucking purpose and don't even deserve or need to exist.

As if we would be better off if they made an endless sea of clone shooters. Imagine making a game about swords, but its complete shit and the swords don't act like swords or serve the games intent as the object that they are. What is that? If your game doesn't innovate, or redefine the genre it's in than what the fuck did you even create? Something mediocre? A copycat? Something soulless? """""""""""""""""""You're a fucking retard""""""""""""""

Jump off a fucking cliff you insufferable faggot.

>Zig Forums suddenly hates coach
what happened

I hate that. You instantly lose any kind of group dynamic or character relationship when the game needs to be able to accommodate dozens of different combinations of survivors

I hate coach too, but he's bearable.

Ads in this case refers to ironsights. The game does not need fucking ironsights

He said rochelle not coach. Let me AXE you a question

he's talking about rochelle. Personally I've always liked her though, I think people shit on her for no real reason, and they gave her probably twice as many lines as before in the recent update.

The PvP is going to be contentious either way you go. What's the aim of the PvP? If it's to make it accessible, then yeah L4D2 is better. But coordinated PvP is better in game like L4D imo - so the survivors being overpowered is fine (so long as superior coordinated infected play wins).

The point I was making was less "Unique bad!!!!!!!!!!!!" and more "Valve is a dead "game" company" you insufferable faggot

I mean this isnt really up for discussion its common knowledge among the "competitive" scene. In L4D1 tier-2 weapons were outright banned cause the game was simply over the moment the entire team got them

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It’s not rushed it’s been in development forever

Zoey was cute, girls are supposed to be cute. Rochelle is a disgusting piece of shit and her voice is annoying.

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But thats the thing. In the first game once the survivors all got tier 2 weapons the game was over. No amount of planning was able to penetrate that

>hyped for a game he saw a ten minute gameplay clip of
this game is going to come out look nothing like what it did have microtransactions and be boring after 2 hours like every other AAA release that gets hyped to oblivion

Rochelle is hot and she has that sassy foxy mama personality. You are gay for ellis dick

L4D2 Teaser
youtube.com/watch?v=Jz6FCFoL3k4

>action scene happens
>brief pause
>"Aw man! I love waffles!" Or some other zany marvel quip
>action resumes
Why are all western trailers like this