Do you like the new direction the Assasins Creed have been taking?

Never cared about Assassin series but always wanted a big game that allows you to explore Egyptian tombs and temples. Lovely game. The last one I remember was Tomb Raider The Last Revelation and that was ages ago.

Yeah, they made a better game than Cyberpunk. At least those canadians can hang their hat on that.

I wish for this to happen very much but I have no doubt it'd be pozzed. It's such a touchy subject since Mexcians are ridiculously racist and blindly prideful. I could be wrong as Apocalypto was a big success, right? I think it'd be more interesting as a game where the Spanish is fighting a fucking horrifying Aztec empire in the dark unexplored jungles

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I stopped caring when the animus or whatever was used by some fictional game company or some nonsense. in IV I think.

delete the franchise, first one was trash and everything since is its spawn

Based. Black Flag was pretty good tho.

this AC2 had flaws but it was the peak of the franchise

I would like them to revamp the animation system so that combat flow feels more organic.

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Most people's understanding of Mesoamerican civilizations, perhaps the Aztec especially, is so off and misinformed that frankly even a "pozzed" depiction of them would be way, way more accurate then 99.999% of shit.

Case in point, you say "jungle", but all of the cities and states that were actually culturally "Aztec" were located around what's now Mexico City, and surrounding modern mexican states like Puebla, Hidalgo, Morelos, Tlaxcala, Puebla, etc. That's hundreds of kilometers away from jungle, and was semi-arid to temperate hills and valleys. The Aztec Empire as a political entitiy did have subject states in areas with jungle, like along the tropical coasts/lowlands in what's now Veracruz or down in Chiapas, but the culture/civilizations those subject city-states and towns belonged to were other groups, like Mayas or Totonac, etc

The Aztec Empire also wasn't an imperial state, like most Mesoamerican kingdoms and empires it relied on indirect methods of political influence, so those subjects generally still operated indepedently and got left alone: The conquistadors weren't really up against an "empire" in a traditional sense, but a political network of vassals under dominant city-states. There's an impression people get that the Aztec empire was this massive oppressive force that was dragging people away for sacrifices against their will when that's pretty much bullshit (not that they weren't warmongers or weren't sacrificing people)

That's not to say that it's impossible to whitewash it: I've seen some people stupidly claim that sacrifice was entirely spanish propaganda and Aztec society was super LGBT tolerant and shit like that, and that's dumb, but showing them and Mesoamerican civilizations as a whole with cities like pic related, and as an actual functioning societies with poets, diplomats, merchants, kids playing in streets, etc; rather then a orgy of sadism like in Apocalypto (which is historically inaccurate as shit) wouldn't be wrong.

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No, I hate it. They're some of the worst arpgs I've ever played. I think the world has collectively lost their minds in encouraging this shit.

Origins was pretty fucking kino.

>Also where do you think Ubisoft should take us next
To your mom's house

Bayek was a fun character

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Literally all vikings were gay or black. Im so happy ubisoft represented the truth rather than pander to the patriarchal majority. Resist.

Personally, the series never really managed to follow up the level of excitement the story was at during Revelations. That was some peak right there, the amounts of theories leading up to 3 were absolutely insane.

3 was pretty underwhelming then, but considering games like Odyssey exist, I have some appreciation for it now. I don't think this series benefited from a massive lack of direction and focus, switching hands and minds so often that the original Juno plotline was solved in some shitty comic book.

the direction is fine

i just wish they kept the ambush/hit and run based combat

since you know so much about mexicos history now my chance to ask dumbass questions.
When did Mexico adopt/lean towards more the identity of aztec culture rather than Spanish? I'm guessing sometime in the early or mid 19th century after the war of independence? I have many more general questions.

Haven't played one since revelations, do they still interrupt the assassin stuff with boring abstergo present shit?

> reduced amount of historical authenticity in the settings in Oddessy and ESPECIALLY Valhalla worries me
> reduced amount for older eras that didn't really have as comprehensive history as the other ones
you mean the part of history where historians figure shit out using archealogical finds, vases, one- sided monk writings, semi legend historical accounts, propaganda writings with inflated numbers?
you're worried about their reduced authenticity? where it's real authenticity is barebones enough to make a story?

Yes but they are way less prevalent than the previous titles, so need not to worry about that bs.

You should start with AC Origins, it’s the best of three in OPs photo. The story is great, and Egypt is fun to explore.

To add, my primary concern with how Ubisoft MIGHT whitewash it would be with the geopolitics, and trying to tell a simple "Spanish bad, natives good" sort of story.

As I said, the Aztec Empire was a bunch of indirectly ruled over vassal and tributary states, not a unified, directly managaged empire. This meant that every city-state in it had their own political interests and ambitions and you constantly saw that throughout Cortes's expediton (and in subsquent Spanish campaigns, both with former Aztec states or with other states in the region that were never under Aztec control to begin with), with city-states trying to court Conquistadors to ally with them or tricking them to take out their political rivals or to overthrow their current captial, etc.

Not to mention that the Spanish themselves weren't politically unified either: Cortes was acting against the orders of the Governor of Cuba, who sent out other Conquistador groups to go out and arrest Cortes, The Aztec even allying with one of them

For Ubisoft to handle it right, they'd need to really stress that this was a web of alliances and backstabbing and Conquistadors, local kings, etc manipulating and using each other against one another.... and i'm not sure I have faith in Ubisoft to do that. That, and yeah, they'd probably just act like Women being soldiers or LGBT stuff was totally normal, instead of actually representing the gender norms and shit of Mesoamerican societies

On the flip side, I think they'd probably continue to use some stuff that makes them look worse, too: I expect they'd still use "the Aztec thought the Spanish were gods" myth, and probably include huge, exaggerated sacrifice scales of thousands of people being sacrificed at once. I don't think they'd go full retard with a bunch of tribal tattered outfits with bone decorations like most media does, but I think they'd probably use at least some inaccurate big sterotypical headdresses and pectoral/collar garments.

Not him but:
>When did Mexico adopt/lean towards more the identity of aztec culture rather than Spanish?
This never happened. Modern Mexican culture is fundamentally Mestizo, meaning mixed. You can see both influences in everything from the food, the music, the art, the architecture, etc. The Aztecs were mostly genocided. Modern Mexicans descend, for the most part, from the other non-Aztec natives and the Spaniards. Mexico as we know it now didn't exist until 1824. Terms like "The Conquest of Mexico" are anachronistic misnomers.

You are the reason they killed Desmond, I hate you.

where can I read about this deep accuracies of what the aztecs were like? Also, what are your thoughts on this book?

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