This was announced way too early and based on what we know now I'd say it was in 4-5 years of development at most.
CDPR's a small studio and they were still releasing TW3 DLC in 2016 so it's very unlikely they had the manpower to work on two AAA projects at once. We didn't even have a concrete look at what CP2077 was until 2018 with the e3 trailer and it was all stuff from the prologue. A lot of people thought that just because we had a teaser back in 2013 that means they were deep in development. But considering that TW3 was still in development that couldn't have been possible. In fact it's very common for companies to put out teasers when there's very little if not 0 concrete groundwork laid out for the final product. (i.e FFXV) The cyberpunk development timeline probably looked like this >2011-2012 A pitch was shown to some investors and CDPR leads and then greenlit TW3 starts proper development >2013 They put out a concept teaser that was extremely vague and depicted a generic cyberpunk scenario to build hype but TW3 is still their major focus >2013-2017 Hype machine does its thing, youtubers, journalists, the media oversells the game, but CDPR also doesn't come out to clarify much The Witcher 3 is also in development and released. And actual development starts on CP77. >2018 We get the first teaser showing a more concrete idea of the CP77 world and the vertical slice gameplay reveal >2019-2020 More updates, delay news, Keanu Reeves, the marketing starts reaching its climax, and the game gets rolled out as a mess.
Over the last few years we've seen tons of games do this. massive releases that built up huge amounts of hype for years and were either disappointing, underwhelming, or massive failures.(MGSV, FFXV, KH3, Anthem, Destiny, Andromeda, Fallout 4,etc). A lot of these make back their profits but often at the cost of their developer's reputations. Cyberpunk was the last straw. After these blunders people aren't gonna build hype for games like this again.
You nailed it for the most part, years not so rushed, add a fuckton of friction and believe it or not, the political sjw cancer played an important roll. You think having a penis editor but no fucking AI its not related?
t. I actually worked there, never again.
Carson Jenkins
Great way to make money though
Owen Jackson
>Cyberpunk game gets sabotaged by capitalism Maybe it was actually Kino all along
Hudson Barnes
I think more that devs will now just priotize the ps5/XSX and PC.
All the other older consoles wont get shit now after this disaster.
James Morales
What else can it be sabotaged by? Incompetence? Plenty of that too
Landon James
FF13 Versus was that turning point
Dylan Green
Well go on then, elaborate on how sjw cancer ruined the studio. Give names of key people on each side
Bullshit, people loved No Mans Sky, people are still playing 76 and both of these groups will tell you that the games just kept getting better.
Bentley Sanchez
I worked there too, you’re full of shit.
Camden Turner
I don't think you realize how long and broken the development of 12 was. 12 is when it all started to fall apart. Took 5 years when 10 and 9 were made in ONE just ONE year.
Owen Miller
>people loved No Mans Sky not on release, that thing was a huge disappointment, it was only able to save itself after patches and updates. I want to be optimistic that Cp77 can do the same, but I highly doubt it. NMS had the advantage of its content being mostly procedural, that can be fixed, but here the problems come from the design of the game itself.
Liam Parker
Holy shit FFX was made in one year?! Jesus christ what the fuck has happened to this industry?!
Lincoln Wilson
FF10 was not made in one year. FF9 was made by a different team, and it wasn't developed in a year either.
Connor Howard
I watched/read very little in the way of promotional materials, didnt read any press releases or reviews. Basically watched the reveal trailer in 2013 and saw e3 2018. I bought it essentially because I wanted to know if my computer could play it well.
Imo its eurojank kino, I've got 13 hours in since launch which sounds low to you guys but in comparison I've been playing RDR2 for a year and I'm only 20hrs in on chapter 4.
I really like the static elements of Night City, like a lot. I think it's an amazing atmosphere and there's a bunch of neat architecture to sightsee. I think it's actually 11/10. The "dynamic elements" of Night City are lacking, but serviceable. It's disappointing that all of the events are scripted, like Trauma Team standing on that one sidewalk for the entire game. The gameplay aspects are mediocre. I'm a hackfag and the gameplay has been the same since I got my first quickhack that does damage. Just hide in a corner and kill everyone from the CCTV. The story elements are a mixed bag. It's a decent linear story, but it's a bad RPG. None of the choices really change the course of the story, just the outcome. Same goes for side quests which is really disappointing. The crafting and inventory system is shit, I don't know why they even included it. For an open world game, there's not much open world type stuff to do. No collecting, no real perks for exploring (other than enjoying the sights). The biggest disappointment for me is the lack of customization. There are only 4 implants that change your appearance. The double jump legs don't even change your legs despite other people having robo legs. You can't customize your apartment, car or character. It's really disappointing for an open world RPG.
Parker Torres
2 years if you add it all up. But then 12 also took 6 years, not 5. So still a giant clusterfuck
Henry Kelly
That's still fucking incredible though. Especially with the impact those games had.
Robert Jackson
I wonder what team made Kingdom Hearts 1, since that I think is better than FFX.
David Morris
>enjoys Kingdom Hearts >struggles with basic grammar and syntax
Checks out.
Dominic Young
I wonder how many dick you suck, since that what is I propose.
this game is shit, the hamfisted ending a slap in the face compared to W3 and the main-yet-not-main-antagonist (chungus) is by far the worst fucking character i've ever seen written. >gameplay gunplay is mediocre at best, customization is really bad. melee is literally skyrim's version but with a shitty 3-hit-combo type of m1 spam >story primary antagonist (chungus) makes no sense and never clearly details what the fuck his motives for his goals are when monologuing to Zig Forums while being the dumbest motherfucker in the world unplugs his girlfriend from a netrunner chair, then is shocked that she fucking dies. most endings are trash to spit in your face. >customization customization is ass because the tier system exists combined with an unbelievably generous amount of slots. it would've made choices matter if there were less fucking slots while all items had normalized stats. >technical performance is really bad, game flatlines down to 40 fps regardless of settings (i7-6700k, 1080 ti, 1080p) bugs are everywhere and some can brick saves with little or no input by user, causing an entire campaign restart. rare but still exists, had to restart twice. >visuals despite running like shit models are fucking ugly, especially the story characters save for a certain nomad. >misc rambling there's no real message behind cyberpunk 2077 aside from the fact that unchecked capitalism has brought about unholy amounts of hedonism and degeneracy, which is defended by the main character (Zig Forums) at times, then subsequently hated by them no more than 10 seconds later.
tl;dr >fuck trannies >fuck faggots >fuck rushing products to satisfy retards >fuck letting this shit release like this >fuck skyrim combat >fuck statball looter shooters >fuck shitty rpg elements in a game based on an rpg tabletop when did keanu join? there's no way the game is centered around his character, but developed for 4-5 years.
Luis Wright
Based cdpr saving pc gaming
Joshua Clark
I don't understand this take, honestly. It sold a metric gigafuckton of copies on vapour, hype and empty promises. If anything, this will be the game that PROVES that in order to be successful, you need to pour more money into marketing and less into actual development. I guarantee that other publishers are taking notes.
>After these blunders people aren't gonna build hype for games like this again no user, people are still being born and not experiencing these things first hand and they are more and more every time that's just the way it is, the world needs a collapse
Benjamin Wilson
No wonder why everyone on Zig Forums is a miserable piece of shit. You guys all worked in game dev
John Jenkins
How old are you zoomer?
Kayden Rivera
Trump losing has broken your brain
Jace Allen
It almost certainly started development again a few times. Tech was going to be a lot more in depth and involved, involving the Flathead but they scrapped it because they felt it was too similar to Netrunner. They claim wall running was scrapped due to improper level design so they likely didn't design the map around that, it was added later.
Its a shame, the game has a very solid foundation and with a lot of work it could very well reach that height people expected.
Benjamin Brooks
It was in development since mid 2016. It was never going to be a sandbox game.
Christopher Thompson
I was hoping for Deus Ex in an open world, instead I got The Outer Worlds + Rage 2.
Elijah Ward
It basically is Deus Ex open world though . Except Deus Ex isn't as buggy, and has better quest design. How did the outer worlds turn out? I never got around to it.
Blake Hughes
I haven't played it yet but the reddit normies are really killing my vibes rn ngl. Why did anyone expect a sandbox? Seriously, all I ever read is how you can say Hello pardner in RDR2 but not in this game. Who the fuck wanted that crap and who expected it?
Justin White
No, it's not, it's The Outer Worlds "RPG" mechanics mixed with Rage 2's mediocre as fuck gunplay.
Gavin Stewart
people fail to realize that they still would've released when they released because they were pressured by the release of the new generation of consoles. there's all kinds of backroom deals with hardware manufacturers and that.
Meanwhile, after doing jackshit for years, Valve decides to pull their finger out of their collective ass, announces HL:Alyx and releases it with little fanfare... I don't know how that impacted sales knowing their targeted a niche market. That being said, Duke Nukem Forever, STALKER and Team Fortress 2 were example of games being revealed way too early, building up quite a lot of hype and receiving a lukewarm (except TF2) response. I don't think these practices will end. It'll sink some more companies, sure, but the audience will renew. A bunch of people will remember not to be overly excited over stupid bullshit, some will keep crying for Star Wars teasers, and a new audience will arise, unaware of past blunder...
Who is that Trump you keep talking about? Is he with us right now?
Matthew Robinson
It's more than that, the game's world is honestly kind of fucking dead. There are like 5 streets and 2 highways that actually feel like they belong in an actual city, and the rest of the city is just devoid of life. No cars on the streets, no pedestrians, just fucking completely empty, even with crowd density on high.
Christian Cooper
Blizzard said the same thing about Diablo 3, but they might even be making the same mistakes with D4. It’s more like this will be the last time CDPR announce a game that early. Some other game dev will surely make the same dumbfuck mistake in the coming years.
Noah Bennett
>there's no way the game is centered around his character, but developed for 4-5 years
The game looks like it was scrapped and rebuilt to have him as the main focus.
Angel Diaz
other devs arent literal hacks like CDPR which didnt even release a single good games in their whole studio history. and yes, witcher 3 is also garbage and always was. It got only hyped into "goty" status by butthurt gamestarved pc and xbox fags at that time to combat the real goty bloodborne.
Evan Phillips
A lot of the story with Johnny Silverhand feels pretty tacked on IMO, he didn't even show up in 2018 iirc. back then they teased more RPG character building elements.
