Video games and anime have done more to destroy young "men" than porn, fapping, onions milk, or anything else combined...

NICE. What specialty do you want to pursue? I'm starting internal med this July.

Sports medicine or orthopedic surgery because I’m a walking stereotype when it comes to that.

>problems have causes
whoa.

cool. The jock stereotype for ortho seems to be gone now. From my observations, orthopods nowadays are usually skinny fat gunners.

When you say sports med do you mean doing a family med residency then fellowship? or PM&R with fellowship? PM&R seems awesome, I did an elective in this January. It's really a hidden gem among specialties. Low stress levels, good job market.

Well that’s good at least. Time to bring it back!
No. Like actual sports medicine. It’s a separate category from family medicine and PM&R.
I considered PM&R for a while but then I found out that the military was gonna cut that from their options for scholarships. However, they need ortho and sports medicine.
What drew you towards internal medicine anyway? I always like to hear from others why they like their specialty. Makes me consider other specialties with a different point of view.

The trifecta of incelism, video games, anime, pornography. Don't want your son to be an incel?Don't let these three things rule their life.

>5 foot 8
So it's all wasted

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If my height genetics is all you’ve got against me, then it seems like I mog the shit out of you, loser.

yeah ill just go and grab my bootstraps thanks grandpa great advice

keep coping manlet

Instead of chasing faggot "redpills" as some wishful magic bullet to solve all of your problems, how about you either post your lifts or get the fuck off the fitness board.

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Maybe I will, basement dweller.

Minecraft is the best game to play
>no pre-fabricated story, you're the creator of everything
>no dopamine triggering flashy shit
>emphasis on creativity and sustained effort
>proven to hugely impact students and improve their grades

>Why is no one on this board capable of "normal"?
It's a combination of r*ddit, Zig Forums, and Zig Forums. MOSTLY the latter, frankly. Regardless of the mix, it leads to nothing but mentally and emotionally defective cretins shitting up the physical fitness board. They'd be infinitely better off if they'd stop obsessing over retarded bullshit and just went to the gym for a month, but it's easier to obsess over retarded bullshit and blame their problems on either some retarded Trump shit, or The [Insert Memetic Evil Here] Jew. Just demand they post their lifts until they leave.

That is true to an extent. Height matters mostly on an even playing field.

>If you find your entire life ruled by any of those things to the point where you're suffering serious consequences, you're an addict similar to that of a drug addict. You're pathetic and should just kill yourself.
>NEVER IMPROVE

>No narrative
>No end goal
>No win condition
Don't get me wrong, it's fun to goof around in, but it's not even technically a "game." It's a video distraction for brainlets who can't handle even the concept of a direct challenge.

Improve by DOING something, you colossal faggot. Ideally either going to the gym or GTFOing Zig Forums for all eternity.

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It's a productivity booster more than anything. End goals are the reason why most games make you an addict, while Minecraft, which leaves everything up to you, gets boring for most people. That should tell you everything that you need.

>muh angry anime pic
>"LOOOL WHY IMPROVE BEYOND LIFTING HURR FAGGOT"

Video games are problem solving. Anime is (admittedly limited) storytelling. The web is what destroys young men. Aimlessly reading news, posting on forums like this very one. You get an endless mild dopamine stream with no action on your part.

>Everyone is already being the best possible person they can be, so the obvious solution is to blame external causes

Yeah obviously people can abuse videogames and drugs to ruin their lives, but most people who do these things in moderation actually find it doesn't have much of a downside.

I'm doing IM because I want to do Cardiology or Critical Care. Loved physiology/pharm. Originally was dead set on anesthesia but I got turned off because it just felt like a "service line" job. Like being ancillary staff. I respect their knowledge and skill, but it didn't feel right to me.

Ortho is an incredible field, but some of the residents seem really overworked during their Trauma rotations. From a gainz perspective, I would guess it would be tough (not impossible) to keep your muscle mass throughout the five year training.

No. What really matters is your approach to these "addictive" things. If you play video games that get you hooked, say to fulfill a list of meaningless quests and become top ranked, moving your motivation into the virtual world, instead of building houses, actively strategizing or doing anything smart, then that's going to materialize itself in the long run. Which is why I recommended Minecraft since it doesn't hurt you like other games do.
Anime is just a medium for storytelling like you said. If you just passively consume media without putting in your own effort, say examine the content, the way it's phrased, letting the plot inspire your thoughts, then it's going to lead to brain atrophy of course.
"Aimlessly reading news" is different from people just trying to know what is happening these days.
"Forums" or boards like this one also encourage a wide variety of actions. Shitposters coexist with others who lurk, actively discuss or debate and give answers to numerous questions. Your approach is the key detail in all of this.

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Yeah you are right. For me, forums and news aggregators are the easiest distractions. So I consciously limit my time on them.

>thinks minecraft doesnt trigger dopamine
>doesnt release that without dopamine he'd have no motivation to keep playing minecraft
anything you consistently do, even stuff you do without enjoying is from dopamine release

YES! CONSUME THE PORN, GOY!
MARIO AND GOKU ARE ANTI-SEMETIC!

Interesting. Yeah. I agree anesthesiologists are kinda shat on in the medical community. Very important job, though.
Yeah. I really love working with the musculoskeletal system, but you’re right. Surgical residents in general are very overworked from what I’ve seen and heard. I’ll have to figure something out in terms of keeping my gainz...

Do you have any scientific evidence that anime is harmful to a young man's brain?

>End goals are the reason why most games make you an addict,
That makes no sense. You accomplish the end goal, you've completed the game, you stop playing it. Usually anyway. There are some games with good replayibility, and some even designed for specifically that. But there's still a definite End Point for you to reach. Minecraft, there is no such thing. Just an endless treadmill of busywork. It's like Animal Crossing for people who don't need their hands held over every single thing.

Dopamine is involved in giving you motivation. However there is a huge difference between the amount of dopamine that is released during sex, call or duty or playing chess. All these activities require some level of dopamine to be engaged in, but "boring" activities are much more in line with what real life offers.

>5 foot 8
HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA VIDYA PLAYERS ON SUICIDE WATCH HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER??!
manlets yet to learn they'll never get respect, even if they cured fucking cancer

DYEL?

You wanna prove you even lift to start with? Maybe then we can consider other areas of improvement.

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>That makes no sense. You accomplish the end goal, you've completed the game, you stop playing it
After you played it for 500 hours or more.
>Minecraft, there is no such thing. Just an endless treadmill of busywork
*Work is the keyword here. Notice how you said it with dread.

sex doesn't release dopamine it releases endorphins

>DOOD STOP CALLING ME A SIMP, I BENCHPRESS TWICE MY WEIGHT

games with open worlds and non linear stories are literally the games you spend the most time on
people spend like 10-15hrs tops on a really good story game counting replayability
people end up clocking hundreds or thousands of hours on minecraft

>porn good
>vidya bad
next these niggas are going to tell me reading is bad and math is racist. kek

Fucking kek, you're a retard

you improve by doing multiple things, you gotta improve in multiple aspects of your life user

lol dopaminecel mad

bro I'm sorry but you shouldn't be so smugly bragging about your post, have some humility before you brag about being 5'8" and 16% BF

I don't know if you noticed it but most people get bored for a reason. It doesn't trigger dopamine as much as other games, the ones who do invest their time and effort into building things in Minecraft are usually much more productive. Only a minority of players are neckbeards glued to their chairs.
>people spend like 10-15hrs tops on a really good story game
Fucking lmao, the least amount of people have set their focus on short story games. You can find a lot more people wasting thousands of hours on competitive gameplay.

this

are u really trigger to argue people get bored of minecraft quickly
are u serious bro minecraft is like a top seller people clock hundreds of hours of it
how many hours do you have on it user

Remember to report all discord links as spam!

>smarter than you
>stronger than you
>better looking than you
>”y-yeah b-b-but height”
Cope. This is why you’ll continue to fail.

Confirmed DYEL

How come every poster on Zig Forums is either an engineer, lawyer or doctor

ms2 here

what year u at neg

>are u really trigger to argue people get bored of minecraft quickly
Most people do get bored and move on to different genres.
>minecraft is like a top seller
Because it resonates with the desire to be creative in a demanding 3D lifelike environment. It will be popular with kids and ambitious people by design.
>people clock hundreds of hours of it
Over a long period, again it's easier to quit Minecraft than Shooters.

because people who are proud of a perceived accomplishment are more likely to brag about it than someone who is a bar tender or some shit

I am an electrical engineer. Thinking about going to medical school. Is it worth it bros? Engineering is okay, get to work on cool shit, get paid well.
But I am interested in the human body, and want to help people. The only thing I help right now is military kill people, and make sure satellites don't break.

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Med school
>Nice
Good lifts
>Nice
190lbs
>Nice
5'8"
>Oh no no no

I'm really sorry to hear this user. So close to being aces. You're a full house, sixes over twos

>its ok to clock hundreds of hours on minecraft because its over a long period of time
this is literal cope you are in so much denial LOL

lel so even the people who are engineers want to be doctors too

There were a lot of surveys conducted here regarding IQ, income, penis size and so forth. When you disregard extremes which are picked mostly by trolls, the average 4channer is up in the 90th percentile. Again, while excluding an IQ over 150, or any upper range that gains most of the attention by trolls.

post body

And considers themselves a 7+/10, and is above 6', and has a cock above 7 inches that a girl told them was small once, and never once posts body...

>low dopamine release => addiction unlikely
>scientifically proven to boost performance
You have no arguments

not posting body and insulting someones body when they do makes me seethe so much

Dilate

>hundreds
you are like a little baby

i think i have like 5k tot hours in world of warcraft and i play casually
had 3k hours in dota 2 counted in steam

I am white, but why not mog all of the indians being their parents wet dream. An engineer and doctor. Have also though of trying out for special operations in the military then trying to become a doctor. Why not try and check all the boxes in life?

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addiction isn't just dopamine retard and minecraft has literally never been proven to be "low dopamine release"
its a best seller and people clock hundreds of hours on it, it isnt a game you get bored of quick or find boring quickly are u serious is this bait

The medical profession has the best "floor" of anything else out there. By that I mean this: What happens if you are a barely competent, lazy doctor with personality issues? You make 180k a year. If you are able to land a residency training spot then you are basically set for life. You still will have to work very hard during residency, but afterwards you can just work 40-50 hrs per week and bring in 200k usually. Many docs earn over 400k.

So, if you really are passionate about it, and you can get into an american Allopathic school then you should absolutely do it. It is a very well compensated career and even shitty doctors make tons of cash.

The issue with posting pics here, for most people, is that they have a superficial understanding of IT. They really do not want to get doxxed or hacked.

insecure much?

If you have a passion for the human body, then chase it. That’s the best advice I can give. Forget about the money or the perceived glory. Think only about what it would be like to have your life revolve around studying the human body and treating the human body.
If that excites you, take the step. If not, study it in your free time and appreciate the extra knowledge without using all your money to get the degree.
Notice that one of these is genetic while the others are my own ability to work hard.

>understanding of iT
>cant get rid of exif data

Do you think secure people post here?

>addiction isn't just dopamine retard
Yes it is.
>minecraft has literally never been proven to be "low dopamine release"
It goes contrary to the standard model of games, which are designed to make you addicted. A guy who doesn't understand the importance of dopamine probably doesn't know how to hook people.
>its a best seller
>muh hours
>SERIOUSLY?!???
lmfao

>superficial? sounds french to me

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lol ur a retard suck my dick BIIIIIIITCH

>Work is the keyword here.
>Notice how you said it with dread.

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You're an adult now so you should do just that. Sucks that your family failed you but that's in the past and it's time for you to pull up your big boy pants and do what you need to do to fix yourself.

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>Lol haha d-dumbass

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>N-No you're projecting

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFTING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Yeah if you actually read the studies, you would have seen "open-world" games like GTA and simulators like, well like the sims are bad for your brain and are associated with cognitive decline. Most other games force more brain activity and can even improve reflexes. Reflexes and IQ are highly correlated, most researching leaning towards reflexes indicating a healthy brain state.

I will not fall for your Jewish tricks to get me to accept porn as a healthy part of life.

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFTING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yes

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I do though. I have me some investments, I'm slowly learning Python, and if I get some more spare time and spending money, I'ma get a bass guitar and become Tom Araya. But this is the physical fitness board. Either lift weights to GTFO desu senpai

What are your actual lifts? Surely you're not one of those soft muscle chumps that benches 2PLAET for 12 reps while unable to lift LMAO4PLAYT in any fashion. Surely.

Is osteopathic not worth it? I know US MD is best, especially for competitive specialties, my GPA is a bit lower from engineering, 3.2 overall and science, I know I can crush the MCAT though, would never go Caribbean MD. I have mainly been interested in PM&R, Psych, and FM, interested in good work life balance, but I mean a lot can change I imagine during medical school.
Thanks, would also like to hear your thoughts on above.

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Self improvement boards overlap each other, stop complaining
>I'm slowly learning Python
>I'ma get a bass guitar and become Tom Araya
at least some progress

this is who youre replying to. he doesn't bench twice his weight. just look at that face in the mirror

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>again it's easier to quit Minecraft than Shooters.
First of all, citation needed. Secondly, I quit both quite easily. I don't even know if you'd call it "quitting" when you just get bored of it and stop playing. It's not like I had to pry myself away from either.

>I have been exposed as a cretinous sperg projecting my own inadequacies onto others!
>I'll post a wojak I got off r*ddit and hope no one notices.

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nice irrelevant youtube screenshot for ants spastic

>smarter than you
why are premedfags always like this?

Osteopathic is becoming more and more competitive. Soon it’ll be considered on the same level as MD. Hell, DO may even end up getting absorbed by MD.
However, the when is a tricky question. My prediction is within the next ten years.
If you want the sure bet for competitive matches then MD is much better simply due to bias. It’s not impossible, though. I shadowed a DO orthopedic surgeon.
Psyche, PM&R, and FM will probably be easy to get into as a DO if you get good grades and perform well on your boards.
The 3.2 might be a hang-up for a lot of MD schools but performing dominantly on the MCAT will assuage any hesitations they may have.
As for getting in, I suggest you really play on the heartstrings in your personal statement and interviews with your switch from engineering. Bullshit something about a “pivotal moment” where you absolutely “had to” become a doctor. They will ask you about it during interviews. If you don’t have a great answer, they’ll reject you. Happened to me in an interview because they asked me why I switched from PT.

Didn’t go premed. Went exercise and sports science. Thanks for playing, though.

>Self improvement boards overlap each other, stop complaining
No they do not. Are there a bunch of bench press threads on /sci/? Of course not. Take your faggotry to to the appropriate board, and either prove you've ever been to the gym or GTFO Zig Forums for eternity.

Yeah, I think I could make a pretty good personal statement, I had cancer in college, so I did premed because of that, but never had time to decompress from the cancer so I failed out of premed, then I switched to engineering.
I am going to try engineering for a couple of years, and if I still want to become a doctor I will start taking night classes to finish the prereqs or maybe just quit my job and go to school full time.

Thanks for the advice.

moderation is subhuman trait
dedication is the answer

>so I failed out of premed, then I switched to engineering

you failed out of premed and switched into something twice as hard?

DO schools are usually fine for the less competitive specialties but it makes things very hard if you try for things like Ophtho, Derm, ENT, plastics, etc. There is also the issue of some DO applicants failing to get any residency at all, which is a catastrophic life event. Seriously. But as long as you get strong board scores in med school you will land something.

I don't think DO will ever be considered on the same level as MD. Not ever. Because it already is cemented as the thing you do when you can't get into a 'real' med school. I'm not being dismissive or arrogant. I think the med school admissions process is completely fucked, with so many people getting into MD schools because they are black or some other special group. Plus there are so many kids with tons of connections (their parents/older siblings are in academics/medicine and help them get research papers in undergrad or good extracurricular opportunities). But the reality is that MD will always be considered the gold standard, even though there are tons of MDs who are not good docs and plenty of DOs who are superb clinicians/researchers/teachers.

Any time. I wish you the best with whatever you choose!

I would suggest that the exact reason DO will be receiving more respect as the years go by is the favoritism displayed by MD admissions.
MD schools will get lower quality candidates because of that, and it’ll only be offset by the brilliant ones they accept based on merit.
DO schools still have that bias to an extent too, but they can’t afford to be as picky for the exact reasons you’ve mentioned.
Furthermore, you are correct. Residencies will pick MD over DO most of the time, and that’ll be an issue DOs have to overcome if they want to succeed in more competitive residencies.

/sci/ is not a self improvement board, Zig Forums, Zig Forums, /his/, /lit/ and /k/ are. wonder why you'd pick the most reddit board of this site as an example

>I hate wojak, it's so reddit
>No actually not, I'm just pissed off and have no arguments left, I'm from reddit

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>citation needed
fuck off dumbass. learn what hormones are.

Well, do you see a lot of bench press threads on Zig Forums? Of course you don't. Keep your non-physical fitness faggotry off the physical fitness board, and post lifts.

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>this is you
>no that wojak isn't me, here's another meme. that's you

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Incel threads are off topic, but I don't see the issue with literature and studies regarding everything that affects our performance. Seems like something rustled your jimmies.

lmao ofc noone who talks shit posts body. Youre mogging them lol

>I don't see the issue with literature and studies regarding everything that affects our performance.
Mental health threads are explicitly against the rules and belong elsewhere.
>Seems like something rustled your jimmies.
Yes. It's a little mincing turdburglar who can't get it through his skull that Zig Forums is for PHYSICAL FITNESS AND DIET ONLY and still won't post either body or lifts.

>lmao ofc noone who talks shit posts body.
Post body.

>improving is incessantly bitching and whining on Zig Forums instead of BREAKING THE PATTERN THAT MAKES YOU MISERABLE

>mental performance and life achievement
>mental health aka incel talk
>same thing
There's no saving you

>Why yes, I offer no advice to people, since I didn't achieve anything myself, how would you know?

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Well you know how it is. At the end of the day, there are only 2 types of people:
The ones who can.
The one who do.

Height only matters on an equal playing field. That's why it's used so much, the sedentary masses don't have accomplishments.

I don't care you literal nazi I'll play all the games I want and to hell with your ethnostate dreams

>Still hasn't posted body, or any other proof he actually lifts
This is this board's problem. Unlifting wank pheasants that want to bring all of their bullshit personal problems and unrelated inadequacies onto the physical fitness board. No one, not a single god damn soul in all of creation, is telling you that you can't do "mental health" or meditation or whatever the fuck else "improvement" bullshit you want to do. I'm just telling you to do it in the proper place and setting. You don't walk into the gym with a fucking trombone, blaring up an ungodly racket, and then whine to the gym staff "BUT MUH SELF IMPROVEMENT LEARNING AN INSTRUMENT NOTICE MEEEEEEEE" when they tell you to pipe down or fuck off. Don't bring that same unrelated garbage to Zig Forums.

Now, either post body or admit you're a noodlebuilt jabroni who has no business popping off to anyone.

I could be a fatty who is the size of a moon, but still lift daily while on GOMAD. I could be a twink who struggles to eat but still lift weights. I could be a cartoon body but barely do weightlifting. Your body is the end result, not the thing you're doing.
All of that being true, you're a retard who never addresses any points and makes up stupid assumptions to hide the fact you've got an agenda.

>Less brain activity
>Because it's ez

Git gud, fag

Lmao.

I unironically think this is the issue. Games that dont motivate people to think whatsoever, are the problem. Not games in general.

First post best post, but of course the nincompoop op completely ignores it of of prejudice.

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>you've got an agenda.
What the fuck is this agenda you think I have? To keep the physical fitness board on topic? How sinister. If you're body is the end result, prove it's the end result of some actual training and Post Body. Or lifts.

You don't want people to improve, so you call everyone an incel who talks about stuff like literature, pit falls of porn addiction, video games etc.

See this pic is meaning less because it doesnt actually reveal if the participants were actual less capable of controlling behaviour, lower activity could imply that it required less mental effort to achieve the same result.

this desu, why halfass it? would you halfass a PR? a bungee jump? driving 100km/h?

>haha one punch man go poow

yeah man anime is so bad.. just stop watching the weird shit, there are great shows out there

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>I recommended Minecraft since it doesn't hurt you like other games do
Except it does. You are still "pursuing goals" like in any other game: punch a tree, get wood, make bench, make pickaxe, get stone, make stone gear, get coal, find food, get shelter, find iron, find gold, find diamonds etc etc. Every time you hit one of those goals you get a dopamine rush and every time a goal is completed it's replaced with 5 new ones.

>there is a huge difference between the amount of dopamine that is released during sex, call or duty or playing chess
Video games and sex cause almost identical levels of dopamine release in your brain.

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Yes, there are men who can still grow and men who did grow.

People here clearly don't know how to read an entire paragraph

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It's a much more boring atmosphere and you don't get hooked as much

Sauce on image?

People here clearly have their brain smoothed out by video games so they keep missing the point/ignoring the truth.

>dying for the jew
ishygddt

I don't think it's necessarily that, but low testosterone + dumbass lifestyle in general

>minimal arch
This is nothing to brag about, arching is part of the lift and puts your shoulders in a healthier position. As long as you don't go overboard there's no reason to view it as any sort of negative

He's a manlet so he's conditioned into defending everything that's minimal

>Video games and anime have done more to destroy young "men" than porn, fapping, onions milk, or anything else combined. Prove me wrong.

You guys should really be advocating no vidya and no anime. But you're clueless

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Post body dyel

>prolactin buildup
Literally made up term lmao. I swear to god you nofappers are cultists. What about people who have sex everyday? Where does their prolactin go? Holy shit man.

I haven't called anyone an incel. You appear to be four of the five uses of the word previously in this thread. Stop projecting.

We should be LIFTING. Post body or lifts.

Don't you know math is racist with brainlet?????

unironically my friend

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youtu.be/jB2eKRxHp20?t=34

I'm a neet.

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