Literally the secret to obtaining women

>Go to the fucking gym(or buy some dumbbells and work out at home until the gyms open back up)
>Grow a beard
>Groom your shit
>Dress normally(jeans and t-shirt combo are timeless)
>Smell normal

Literally this is all you have to do. Why aren't you fucking virgins doing it?

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>Grow a beard
Genes said no.

>impIying implications
Why do normies always come here to make the same threads?

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Already do those last 3. Can't grow a beard. Working out isn't worth the effort just to get some dumb whore to like me.

You dont even need that. I do just fine being skinny, ugly, short, brown, unable to grow a beard, and dressing like a bum.

or just get a job and pay a 8/10 hot escort to come over to my apartment and watch a movie while she sits on my face

good advice OP, however i would like to add that you need to have a good social circle to get women. dating apps are a shit cope, almost everyone meets long-term partners via friends, colleagues. Sure this is hard for many of the anons here, but thats just how it is.

>I have to get fit to get a whale because she wants to feel "petite"
no tx, I'm sure there are plenty of guys she can go for.

>literally
Stopped reading right there.
Not an original comment

>Working out isn't worth the effort just to get some dumb whore to like me.

See this shit is why women aren't attracted to you. You as a man should have the natural desire to push your limits. You work out for yourself, not for others. Women are attracted to fit men because fitness shows masculinity and a natural drive for self-improvement, not because they think he works out for them.

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I met my girl at my job(yes, it does work).

Get a part time at the local Target in your city(Target hires the best looking women) and go from there.

I do push my limits, just not on faggot stuff like working out. I do enough cardio to keep myself in shape and I eat healthy. Any thing past that is useless posturing. The only self improvement that matters is mental and skill-based. Physical self improvement is a cope for dumb people.

welp I guess is the single life for me.

>Fair enough, but Im lanky with weird sized hips for a man no matter what, and my face is fucked in a way the gym cant fix.
>Grow a beard duuude.
Fuck this gay meme. Im a chinlet and a jawlet AND my blond beard comes in fucking patchy and unattractive.
>Groom your shit.
Fuck does that mean? I use combs and pomade for my hair that is unevenly receding on one side.
>Dress normall (jeans and tshirt)
I do this already but then you hear these fashionfags and my friends who actually get girls dress different in a style Im not faggy enough to try to actually pull off.
>Smell normal
Was literally never an issue, unless you count that I sweat a lot which is made worse by this shitty Florida weather.
>Literally this is all you have to do. Why arent you fucking virgins doing it?
True, user. Its definitely easy to LARP and pretend this is all possible for me.

>t.DYEL faggot making excuses for why he's too scared to lift

And this is why you remain sexless.

This only gets you to the point where women consider you as a potential option, it doesn't actually get them into bed with you. There's a whole other half to the equation, playing stupid flirting games, and that's where I always fuck it up.

lmao DYEL faggot are literally swimming in puss

why do kikes always come here to demoralize people and tell them they can't improve their life no matter what?
Working out is more about you and not dumb whores. It's about knowing that in certain situations where you need your body to do something (climbing, carrying,running etc) that you don't fall over and shit yourself. How can you have a healthy mind without a healthy body?
This guy fucks.

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Noticed this. Seems like the case at Chick-Fil-A too.
I wonder if theres some unspoken hiring policy that feminists will discovered and then its another small pleasure for men that has been utterly destroyed.

I was lanky with weird sized hips. Putting on muscle did wonders for me when it came to women.

But not you or anyone else on this board. Hmm?

I do all these things except the beard because of my ethnicity and the way it looks.

This is not enough to a girlfriend though.

>Guys, you need to work out to get girls.
Hm, doesnt seem worth it to me.
>No, work out for yourself, and the girls will come.
Okay, but if its truly for myself, then I dont consider the end-result of a slightly better look on myself to really be worth all of the effort.
>THEN YOU WONT GET GIRLS FAG HAVE FUN BEING FOREVER ALONE!

Hmmmm. Every time. Perhaps these gymcels arent doing for it themselves as much as they claim.

I don't really care user.
and you shouldn't really care either, just do you.

Did it hide how big your hips are?

I check all these boxes. Why can't women put in the same effort?

Also remember that you can meet people through volunteering or going to conventions (assuming you have hobbies) and other social events such as charities and concerts. You have to put yourself out there and remember that people are just as scared as you are and making the first move is often the best way to make lasting bonds

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I filled out my upper body and made it look more proportional. A lot of those muscular black dudes in BBC porn have big hips but you dont notice it because theyre fit.

>Look for advice to get women
>Be given advice
>Eh I dont want that kind of advice because reasons(Im lazy)
>Ok and that is why you dont get women

Nice cope. You are not the first DYEL to give me a bullshit excuse for not wanting to get off their fat ass.

>Basic fitness
>Effort

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This isnt /fa/ plus you wouldnt fit there with your shit opinions

You havent been around women muxh have you.

>yet another Zig Forums larper thread
It's either snake oil self improvement threads or faggot threads nowadays

I have a GF and plenty of female friends. Tell me more.

Women dont give a fuck if you arent muscular. Sure it's a plus, but nothing more. Its not the be all end all I assure you. You can be the opposite of OP and still bang girls and have a gf. Fuxj you OP you retard.

>I met my girl at my job(yes, it does work).
nicee qt retail couple :O

I can tell that youre a nigger either way. You faggots can only ever "push yourselves" by lifting heavy objects. Pushing yourself, to what end, youre still the same retard.

You forgot blacks, women and muh "bring back old Zig Forums" faggots

Which is it? Is it unrelated self-improvement advice or is it some epic trick to get girls? You fags can never give me the right answer.
Yes, thats effort.

You forgot to mention
>6 figure income.
>lower your standards to accept the chewed over remains of women post her 18th birthday orgy.

The only women I ever dated (or even feasibly desired) did not prefer muscular men and was clear seeing their previous partner's body types. Lifting is a meme unless you do it for yourself or you are really into fitness girls or something like that. People on this board seem to think that all women like is a jacked body and a huge dick which any experienced person will know is actually what most gay men prioritize. You have women all wrong.

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>blacks and women
All of them are white males who have to pretend in order to get (You) s

post body lol

Save me some time and send your female friends my way.
I'll be awaiting for them in Newcastle.

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And men are attracted to debt free virgins without tatoos, skank. Oh, the normie men will fuck you, but they will never commit to your second hand goods.

But if you stay at that retail job, then she will leave you for a better paid man.

And like that you have lost all integrity. Nice one buddy.
The point is not to lift heavy objects real good
The point is to do something where you can see the results of your work over time and attain goals that you set out. To be frank though you're not working out 24/7 it's only 1-2 hours a day for 3-4 days out of the week. You're acting like it'll occupy your time indefinitely and you won't be able to do anything besides working out and eating. You won't have time to play vidya for 10 hours a day though so i guess you're half right.

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srsly what kind of man do you have to be to actually believe this lmao.

Do you think maybe the women told you that they did not prefer muscular bodies because they were interested in you and did not want you to become disheartened?

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>taking r9k srsly at all.
And that is why you're a normie retard.

>Go to the fucking gym(or buy some dumbbells and work out at home until the gyms open back up)
Gym is a brainlet and boring activity. You're no better than a draft horse.
Go do boxing, climbing and hiking, this will tone your body as well as your mind while being actually entertaining.
>Grow a beard
I can't.
>Groom your shit
Pointless to groom it if I'm gonna flush after a few seconds.
>Dress normally(jeans and t-shirt combo are timeless)
I wear tailored clothes and women already told me they like how elegant I am.
>Smell normal
I smell pretty good, always have a discreet touch of perfume (when outside).
Ah, wait. I don't have problems getting women. I just don't want to lose my virginity before marriage.

>my argument is invalid so you're a [insert generic mockery]

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>Gym is a brainlet and boring activity. You're no better than a draft horse.
>Go do boxing, climbing and hiking, this will tone your body as well as your mind while being actually entertaining.
I mean you can do both. The real brainlet is one who can only commit to one thing at a time

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>I do all these things except the beard
>This is not enough
The beard is crucial, robot. Read Shakespeare

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They straight up told me they didn't prefer that body type. Look at all their exes: not muscular at all. Look at the porn they consume: same deal. At some point you guys need to stop being so insecure and accept facts that actually exist and are visible outside of r9k

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>other poster: some women don't like jacked bodies.
>small brain meme poster: nah uh, they only liked you too much to tell you that they actually wanted a roided out lumberjack.
meme poster is a faggot.

Gym is shilled by retards. If you want pussy start working on a high earning career and pay for sex.

Like any realistic comment states. No 16 year old is lifting weights to get laid. So why didn't you get laid at 16?

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>I mean you can do both.
Dude. Except if you do those rarely, where would you get the time to actually do all of this while keeping up with your life?
I'm no athlete and don't intend to spend my whole life doing sport, I also have to work and enjoy other hobbies.

>where you need your body to do something (climbing, carrying,running etc)
This isnt the neolithic era u fucking cryptic jew. Why the fuck would people need to know how to do these things when we live in a cubic wage slave era.

Arguing on r9k is pointless: just vent your shit so you don't lose your mind IRL and move on. r9k is for venting about the shit that is outside of your control and nothing else.

>Work 8 hours
>Spend 1 hour at a gym
>Spend another hour stuck in the traffic
>Meet no one because all gym girls are taken or will go for a chad
>Keep seeing cock tease in skimpy clothes every day
>Land a fat chick on tinder for a one night stand
>It sucks and she mocks your sub 8" penis because she's a size queen
>Tell others you made it

If you have no social circle then you are fucking screwed even if you do the things listed. I have no social skills despite working in retail for like a year and still no social circle.

Reality hurts if you can't laugh at the absurdity of it all. You have summarized reality perfectly.

You spend 1-2 hours a day on one thing for 3 days a week and you spend 1-2 hours a day on the other times you're not doing the first thing? I mean if you're doing 60+ hour weeks working then you probably don't have the luxury of enjoying your life in this way. If you're playing vidya 10 hours a day then there is no help for you.
The cope is unreal on this one.
Have you ever moved raw materials like lumber or steel around? Have you ever moved from one residence to another? Have you ever gone out hiking and off a trail into places where few people went? Have you enjoyed life beyond your hovel? Probably not. Sorry i even asked
okay. Sorry to attack your fragile ego fren. Now go back to the cry box that you call home Zig Forums

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>You spend 1-2 hours a day on one thing for 3 days a week and you spend 1-2 hours a day on the other times you're not doing the first thing?
And what if you have other hobbies?
Settling down with a book after a long day of work is comfy.
And if you work hard with your sport, you need to recuperate a little bit. Doing once every 2 days sport is largely enough.
Keep the rest of your time for other things.
Never wanted to try woodworking, taking care of a garden, etc?
You're a bit shallow and if you can only conceive hobbies as sports or vidyas.

Well a social circle won't come out of no where. You have to actually drop the ego and go out and meet people. How do you do that? talk to everyone say hello and ask them about their life. If they say "I knitted on the weekend" then ask them knitting related questions like "What did you make? How long did it take? How long can you go for without stopping? Have you knitted other things?" eventually they'll want to ask about you and you can answer back. concentrate on one eyeball then the other and alternate so it looks like you're really interested. Don't stare for too long though otherwise you look creepy. Smile and react but most of all actually listen and don't go into automatic NPC mode and go into your own thought but rather direct your mind to ask critical questions.
The bottom line is to get use to YOU and not I when talking to somebody. What i mean is change the questions to reflect them and their interest and try to steer the conversation towards them and not yourself and ACTUALLY listen. Try to catch your mind drifting if you're bored with the conversation. Don't think about yourself or what your gonna do otherwise you become worse to talk to than a wall (people can tall when you're not paying attention to them)

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You're just an asshole. I've dealt with your kind all my life. You are mass produced by bitch mothers and sociopathic or absent fathers. I don't care what made you an asshole. I just know you are one, so you can take your opinion about my "fragile ego" and shove it up your butt with all the other shit you call thoughts.

Lol just lift weights and grow a beard bro

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All of this applies to me and I'm a 32-year old virgin.

Listen here fit tard. At my peak I could pump out 80 pushups in one go. I was young fit and very tall. Still no one gives a shit about your body when you have a sad looking feminine face. Weak jaw, receeding hairline, weird eye area and nose.

But wait. If I just lifted more I would have totally made it brah. Fuck you. I am overweight by 20 lbs now and it's the same exact shit. It does not matter

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Fuck. Theres got to be some way that this image isnt true. I need some form of hope to go on.

That's because OP is full of shit and doesn't know jack about women.
Real women want 3 things in a man: money, looks, and prestige. And even if she finds a man with all three (a complete package) she can and will cheat on him with a bad boy who has a big dick.

The question is, how does this better paid man end up meeting her?

>Literally this is all you have to do
I don't have any social skills. I couldn't look a girl in the face even if she did look in my direction.

>You're a bit shallow and if you can only conceive hobbies as sports or vidyas.
I can tell that you're kinda retarded. If you look at the conversations before that then you would know the that the conversation was about sports and exercise.
>And what if you have other hobbies?
Settling down with a book after a long day of work is comfy.
Working out doesn't make it impossible to settle down with a book for the rest of the day.
>And if you work hard with your sport, you need to recuperate a little bit. Doing once every 2 days sport is largely enough.
If you've exercised then you'd know that once your body is attune to it then you can do other things on your "rest" days.
How about you stop making stupid excuses and stop espousing nonsense like "yeah but what if hurr durr". Nothing is written in stone and you can integrate everything however you see fit. I'm not saying that it is all objective but if you actually thought about bettering your life (read OP's post) then you'd be this would be the easiest way to see that if you put effort into something long enough then it'll pay off. There are many ways to do this but this has the benefit of creating a healthy life style that will also benefit your mind as much as your body.
>INB4 but what if hurr duuuur you gotta work...on yourself hur duur self in other ways...like hurr durrr a hobby that is not the thing you said it was
Nice. You played yourself.

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>Look at all their exes: not muscular at all.
Now lets look at all their one night stands, shall we?
>look at their porn
You really think they would show you the porn theyre actually into? Women lie like its breathing, user. Ill bet sure turned on some porn that looked like you when you were watching it together.

The paths are infinite, brother. Social events like concerts or night clubs, the nightmare app known as Tinder, hell some men even meet women at the fucking grocery store.

Men compete, women select. All it takes is her randomly bumping into a single man who makes 10k more than you with a decent face and just like that its back to bachelorhood for you.

>women lie like its breathing
Finally, you post the truth.

Lifting weights is more about you internally than about external things such as women and money. It's a time you can use for introspection which you are clearly lacking. Your insecurities defeated you not your physical appearance. Sorry but now all you can do is cope bruh. Maybe if you threw your ego away you would have been able to overcome your those things. Cope bruhh just cope.

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it aint easy for everybody, but this is how you get gf

>i couldn't
if you don't try...

yeah this is normie advice but it works, people

>Go out and approach random strangers with questions about their weekends
You dont really think this works, do you?

What if I don't want to obtain a woman?

This. It's all about looking like you're not trying. Always do the opposite of what normals say.

This kind of advice will probably make you commit suicide later in life when you can't form a basic relationship with anyone and you expect that money will get you everything you need. This is NPC advice.

I do all of those besides the beard. I cannot grow beards.

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>grow a beard
ok incel

unironically decent advice but take it with a grain of salt. obviously don't approach people that don't want to be approached.
but making small talk with to cashiers/waiters/neighbours is a good way to practice social skills

>if you don't try...
I don't get many opportunities to talk to women. Any time I have spoken to a woman around my own age it has either ended in spaghetti or I just end the conversation because I have no idea what the fuck you are meant to say to women. They always just walk away., Not like they give you any feedback.

Abstraction is what makes humans intelligent. You can look at a stick man on top of a door and deduce that it is the mens washroom. You can look at the word "STOP" on a sign and deduce that it is a stop sign and it means you should stop and look both ways then proceed. What i'm getting at is if you can't abstract then you're a dumb ass brainlet who needs everyone to explain everything in a literal sense so that you can obtain any sort of benefit from what is said. Your kind is really good as pushing a broom or doing retail. Get out of here. This thread isn't for you. No one has the time to explain every concept in a literal sense to you.

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You:
>Bruh just lift faggot lmao it will solve all your problems.
Him:
>That didnt work for me.
You:
>Well then thats your fault faggot lmao I wont tell you how to fix it or anything cope.

You can ask as many questions as you want but if you don't have any value then they'll just see you as a second rate companion

That's is a nice opinion. It proved me right too. You just BTFO yourself. I'm not an asshole i'm just somebody who chooses reality over a fantasy. Go back into your hole but remember when you come out reality will be waiting for you

truth is living your own life and doing your own thing is better.
chasing after women feels bad through and through. i don't think i ever once enjoyed the "process" or "journey" of chasing a woman. if i'm just naturally around them, fine, but I never tried chasing a single one. it's idiotic because these days women have no points of devotion, in fact they're the opposite, they're deathly afraid to show ANY devotion, like any at all.

well at least you've tried. thats good! but you clearly need to become comfortable talking to women. start creating more opportunities in your life to meet women. Work, school, meeting through friends, hobby classes, whatever. it really isnt easy, but this is the solution

>Cashiers/waiters:
Customer service folk that want to be nice either for the tip or to not get written up/to get you through the line quicker.
>Neighbors
I live in that kind of neighborhood where you never see people out doing shit. They tend to want to do whatever project theyre working on outside as retreat back inside for the AC. I live in a shitty sub-tropical climate with my parents and the houses are far apart from each other; its not your typical gated community you would otherwise find in the area.

There are so many complexities involved. That wasn't the ultimate solution to knowing somebody. It is suppose to be a prefix to getting a start into knowing somebody and establishing a social circle so that you may expand into things like knowing them on a deeper level and adding value. You should look to build on this instead of it being the solution. In the end of the day there are so many things involved in relationships that you must, at some point, free style the rest.

>Gets mad and calls me a brainlet when I point out how retarded his advice is and rants from his psych 101 textbook.
Epic

never said it was easy. remember, you're not hitting on these people, but practicing conversation and small talk, which is absolutely necessary for talking to women.

If you read the whole reply then you'd see that it was pointed out that he had deeper problems with himself than any lifting could have fixed and that his ego probably contributed more to his failure than his physical appearance. In that regard it is impossible for somebody (external entity) to fix himself (internal entity) for his problems come from within and his ego blocks his ability for introspection

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So I should be that guy that holds up the line and makes my neighbors want to avoid me to pretend that my conversations are steering me into being a good conversationalist rather than turning back into that annoying autistic kid I was that talked too much and pushed normies away?

Complexities that I've never learned despite going through k-12 and working in a job where these complexities need to be learned. Sorry, but not every soul can be saved.

This woman reminds me of Chloe from AbbyWinters from my old fapping days. Is this what she looks like today?

Thats really convenient. Every single guy that got ripped and failed is because of underlying mental issues, Professor? Its never because the guy is physically ugly in ways that lifting wont fix, like having a shit face, which is the FIRST thing that people notice in a world where first impressions matter?

You didn't call me a brainlet? I was just pointing out that you read into the advice as something literal and not as something to integrate however you see fit. If you need to cope then cope outside or something but don't go make yourself look retarded

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>havent been to a gym in years
>cant grow a beard
>dont bother shaving, rarely get a haircut
>dress like a sperg
>dont wear cologne or anything fancy

and i still get approached by both girls and guys in clubs and when out in bars

its luck of the draw, girls dont give a shit about "grooming" or "dressing normal" whatever the fuck that means. you internet dwellers literally cant accept its just how you look

>My advice is so smart that any interpretation of it is right, so I can never be wrong. Even the literal interpretation, which im going to pretend was never the only thing I intended to convey from it now that you have poked holes in my logic.

>his ego probably contributed more to his failure than his physical appearance.

It's my face. I look just like my father. The only difference is he lived during a time women had less choice and he married a local girl who couldn't get anyone better.

Just take revenge then.
I dont it resent being a genetic failure or hate genetic dead ends
I hate fucking pussies that use their anger and sadness to do fucking nothing
You hate normies? Stop being a pussy and actually attack them
>No i dont wanna hurt no one
Then you dont hate them enough, stop wating your time on them and do anything else
You hate yourself? Change that wich you hate, starting with the actual things you can change
For starters stop being such a defeatist faggot
Im a loser, and im gonna be the saltiest loser that has ever touched the land

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I'm in shape, bearded, kempt and dress moderately well, doesn't change the fact I'm an ugly assburgers schizo

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You can say that all you want but in reality you've met maybe at the absolute most 1000 people in your life when there is in fact 300 million Americans. So come back when you have a bigger sample size

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>>Go to the fucking gym(or buy some dumbbells and work out at home until the gyms open back up)
>>Grow a beard
>>Groom your shit
>>Dress normally(jeans and t-shirt combo are timeless)
>>Smell normal
How fucking retarded do you have to be to even advice this? Is just like saying all you have to do is get out of bed in the morning.

>Still a manlet with no job and servere autism.
Yeah, nah. Fuck off normalfag.

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I guess there is no hope for you after all. All i was saying was use the advice but be smart about it (abstract the meaning). This means don't go up to a random stranger but go up to an acquaintance like a co-worker or somebody you say hi to everyday. If i have to spell it out for you then you are too far gone to be helped. Drop the green text and try to help yourself out fren.
>Go out and approach random strangers with questions about their weekends
You dont really think this works, do you?
That was your original comment and i merely told you to read deeper into what was said and integrate it into your life. You didn't poke any holes into anything you didn't even attempt to pry it apart...nice cope though, it must have gotten you through some tough times buddy.

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>you need to talk to people to learn to talk to people
>oh so i should just be an annoying autist
i am just trying to help

I already do those things with coworkers and we have no relationship outside of work.
Just admit that youre trying to adapt your message to accidentally say Something smart and it isnt working.

your post implies you have followed OP's advice, which is a great start.
blaming your height is a blackpill cope.
get a job then??? not that fucking hard
autism is shit, that's true, but it doesn't automatically stop you from getting women. just makes it harder.
life isn't fair dude man up

Oh, all I have to do is approach random people and not come off like an annoying autist. Thanks user, I truly see the light now.

Do things with an objective in mind and know limits of people. Eventually you'll know when people don't want to speak to you anymore and when you should ask and do things but first you need to learn how because your 10/10 logic is not gonna be able to brute force how and it's easier to just go out and experiment. People pick up on body language so If you are legitimately interested in what people have to say then they'll pick up on that but you look like you want to talk just for the sake of talking then people will pick up on that too. You just have to learn how to do things right

your post is very funny to me. never have i seen someone who is so absolutely correct and still doesn't get it

this guy is right, you're PRACTICING social skills. it doesnt matter if you make mistakes if you get better

Be retarded. Play retarded games. Win retarded Prizes.
> Why am i still retarded, user?

Beards are gross and disgusting

I have a shit face and am an autist. Get Zig Forums and learn to fight, doesn't make women find you attractive, but does mean you're able to handle the vast majority of people.
Then you have some self-confidence and are visibly physically capable.
People will still think you're fucking weird, but you can be as robot as you like because you're better at all that shit than them which gets you a base level of respect.
Like being good at anything, but more transferrable.
prove me wrong

Women are hard wired to see physical and mental abnormalities as poor genetics, even if it is subconscious. I also cannot hold a conversation unless it is relevant to my interests. Unless there is a woman who would sit and listen to some retard talk about animals literally 24/7 and nothing else, I am fucked.

I only go to the gym so I don't end up a fat fuck because the only thing worse then an autist is a fat one.

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>hair that is unevenly receding
look up microneedling for hair loss

Am ugly though, all these things i have done, and have found no girlfriend, only lost money when i could've spend it on something better. Advice like this only works on average guys that aren't autistic.

He's just being a retard, if one couldn't naturally get friends and a social circle (which is literally imbedded into our DNA) then the rest of your life is going to look similar.

never worked for me, and I'm 30

>Hey, my car is smoking and sputtering, what the hell should I do?
>All you need to do is fix it! No need to thank me, friend-o ;)

You don't even have to be that Zig Forums. I'm overweight with some muscle under the fat and I still have a gf

ITT: man up, the thread = newfag normies pretending to help people for a dopamine rush. really pathetic.
you should try actually helping real people in need instead of this lazy gay preach shit over the internet lmao.

This guy fucks. You are absolutely correct and have managed to boil this thread down efficiently. Cheers bro. This one is on me

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Hey user, how do I be not retarded.
>Just practice in a non-retarded way. Youve got this ;)

>and yeat, Shakespeare does not have a beard in the image
was he a repressed tranny?

>Your mental problems stemming from your ugly face will be gone once you reach a black belt in karate.

i like your analogy.
i think you should take your car to a mechanic. i'm not qualified enough to help you
please go to a therapist. i went to a therapist for about 3 months and trust me it helps so much.
i believe in you man

Thank you user for the one actually useful piece of advice on this thread. I will go check it out.

This place is just filled with people with no desire to actually fix their life and make everything better. They'd rather just seeth in whatever dark hole they've managed to put themselves in. They don't even have arguments against any of the advice they just only greentext to make themselves seem like they have found a loophole. Truly they are lost.

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This thread is actually a confirmation of how easy it is to be a normalfag. You see people on Zig Forums maxxing their lifts, becoming interesting people by doing hobbies and reading, yet they cannot get girlfriends or a social life. The fact that robots and social retards have to jump through so many hoops to get the most basic shit that any person gets with minimal effort, is how shit we truly are on the inside.

The only one I could afford was some grad student appointed by my college, and she didnt do shit. Glad your therapist worked for you though.

Use minoxidil. It works. Dermaroll at the same time if you don't have active acne.

Also I approve of OP's message. it's as simple as what he said. Though I haven't gotten a gf yet, i now receive a lot of attention from women. not that i even want a gf but the confidence boost is nice.

This, it just looks like someone glued pubes to my face. I feel cheated.

it is so incredibly fucking hard to get out of that hole, and yet it has to be done

thats a real shame. i'm very lucky i live in a country where i can get therapy cheaper. it is so fucked that necessary healthcare is locked behind a paywall. also if you can, try to get a male therapist

cheers lad
they definitely won't, but the issues faced when interacting with society that stem from the problems you mentioned, are negated to as good an extent as a person can ask for.
follow the other shit op said, be a good person, and the only shit normies can really pin on you is 'being weird/odd/different etc etc', there are ugly normies so that's never openly discussed.

Didn't include the firm handshake.

You had one job, OP.

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I heard those can mess with your dick though?
Fucking same shit here. Its the worst.

Thanks user. I dont think I had the option to really choose my therapist; it was just who was available around midterms last semester.

It doesn't, do some research. It's intended use is for your scalp. Check out /r/minoxbeards if you want more info and stories

Thank you user, will do
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Fuck normalfags and their "advice"

Bone is strongest where it is mended. Being normal is all that poster will ever be

It also takes a certain level of communication skill and some sort of way of demonstrating value.

>Unless there is a woman who would sit and listen to some retard talk about animals literally 24/7
Go to a zoo and try to engage in discussion about animals with qt workers, proceed from there

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youtube.com/watch?v=YznVpfR_sho
watch this and compare to your own behavior

>thinks he is edgy for being a failed normalfag

Imagine honestly being so sad and envious that you genuinely convince yourself that successful people don't work hard to succeed, and were just predetermined, so you don't have to confront the extent of your own personal shittiness in comparison to people who put effort into their life.

Reminder, the average big business CEO has two hours of proper free time to himself outside of work during weekdays, and often on weekends as well. They tend to be between the hours of 3 and 5 in the morning. The rest of their time is eating, sorting shit, and talking to people.

>beard
>lifting for girls
ew, that's not my aesthetic at all.

true but bad example, most CEOs have inherited the company or large amounts of money

>Poor genetics.
Most people don't give a shit about that if you can speak to them and have some kind of personality.
The fact you specifically reduce half of humanity to the equivalent to a diode set of yes/no switches based on physicality just says you're unwilling to confront your own flaws as your own, and need to justify your uninteresting nature with a source that you can't be expected to change.
>Cannot hold a conversation.
No, that's just you being self centered and a shitty talker. Manners is letting them talk and you forcibly listening. You "not being able to hold a conversation unless it's relevant to your interests" is not a disorder, it's you being self centered and uncaring about things other then yourself, which is probably why most people don't like you, instead of any physical reasons.
>Talking about animals.
Most people love to, especially a lot of women because people like animals. It's just you they don't like because you're self absorbed, don't listen to them, expect them to listen to you, and make excuses for why they turn away.

It's not a fucking feudal society.
If you don't do well, the board elects you out, and puts the person they think will do well in.

You underestimate genetics. There is a fine line between hardware and software. Software depends on having the right hardware.

You sound originally mad. This nigger is doing better in life than you.

>Thats effort

No, you are just a fatass

All Im seeing is an excuse to not go to the gym

Chad would just shoot you user. Give up, you're a failure.

No.
Hardware is the excuse that poor programmers use to explain faults in their software.
It's the same thing people use to justify why they're fat, or why they didn't get into medical school, or why they struggle with relationships or emotions.
Apply yourself more. Be a Tywin Lannister, not a fucking Clegane.

nah, refer to yandere simulator for bad programming
Zig Forums ideology is the equivalent of running yandere simulator on your computer to get a gf. Sure if you have a powerful computer, you can still do it, but you could also just go play a better video game.

I only started getting attention after forcing myself to be confident

otherwise, I am
>5'4"
>not very muscular
>175 (obese) at first romantic attention
>long straight frizzy hair
>a small neck goatee for facial hair
>depressed traumatized look or angry uninyerested look, no inbetween
>smell like shit or smell like cheap hand soap
>very quiet, words were straight to the point
>wore baggy neutral colored clothes

during that year alone, I was asked out 4 times

>OP got his beginner gains and thinks he's ripped

Here's the secret to obtaining men
>be female
>don't overeat

I already workout, but expecting people to adopt a whole lifestyle just so they don't have to be alone is retarded.

at least im clever

Pretty much, once you have "it", you'll get attention naturally. I've been messing about with my persona in safe environments before the whole virus thing and I realized it's all about attitude. "just b confident bro" is all there is to it. Everything else is just a step to get you to that point.

>Just try harder bro
That doesn't always work
My computer has never been able to run good programs my entire life

>My computer has never been able to run good programs my entire life
or you have been trying to run garbage on in all your life
uninstall everything and start anew

Don't forget make $50k+ and have your own place and car.
Meanwhile for women:
>just don't be too horribly deformed

That's not a likely scenario. Additionally, my computer will probably take years to uninstall the bloatware and it might not even work

Sorry, im not normie enough to pass job interviews

I don't think you realise the diverse palette of mental disorders most of us are operating on OP

>Doesn't always work.
You can't always try hard enough. It's why everyone isn't a heart surgeon, being payed a thousand bucks a minute for their time. You aren't a demigod.
Difference is, you never will be if someone doesn't put that effort in, and others can only do so much.

But if an identity thief can steal the identity of a doctor in the navy, and perform several complex, life saving surgeries nearly back to back suddenly, by memorizing the manuals, and having all his patients live and recover fully, you can muster up the effort to learn how to talk to a human being, no matter how autistic you are.

what should i do when they try talking to me

just go on amazon and get a pack of minoxidil and put in your face twice a day and you'll have a beard within a year

>I heard those can mess with your dick though?
my dicks fine and I've been doing it for half a year.

ur joking right beards are so ugly and gross i do not want to kiss a guy with a beard i'd gag no matter how much i loved him

i have no social intuition
>inb4 just learn how to act/mask
there are more specific social situations than you can ever think of and i will fuck them up because im not wired for them

>Go to the fucking gym
Closed
>Grow a beard
No
>Groom your shit
Growing a beard fits your definition of grooming?
>Dress normally
I wear plain shirts and pants or basketball shorts.
>Smell normal
I wear deodorant every day.

Your idea of a fixed life is very shallow, you want to put these people back in their rat cages

IMPORTANT ANOUNCEMENT*

YOU ARE CURRENTLY IN A GASLIGHTING THREAD
Normies like to give false and contradictory advice to robots due to their instinct to be malicious towards abnormals and outcasts
Because of this, they like to mentally torture robots by pretending to want to be helpfull and give "advice" that is meant to be contradictory and incoherent in order to frustrate the robot and make waste energy arguing against the circular reasoning of it.
Normies take great delight playing around with the minds of robots.
If you ever wonder why their advice doesn't make any sense, its because thets the whole point of it.
Best is to completely ignore these mind games

>everyone is out to get you
this sounds more like gaslighting than anything in this thread.

Thats not what the post said, but nice try normie

Not true, I've met plenty of gymcels who fit this criteria and they struggle to get a girlfriend/pussy.
The real secret to getting women is throwing away your morals, dressing like a expensive normie or a huge hipster faggot, and having a attractive face.

>Normies like to give false and contradictory advice to robots due to their instinct to be malicious towards abnormals and outcasts
>Because of this, they like to mentally torture robots by pretending to want to be helpfull and give "advice" that is meant to be contradictory and incoherent in order to frustrate the robot and make waste energy arguing against the circular reasoning of it.
>Normies take great delight playing around with the minds of robots.
>If you ever wonder why their advice doesn't make any sense, its because thets the whole point of it.
sorry, but this really reads as "people are out to get you"

>grow a beard
have you been living under a rock? women are into men who look like teenage girls nowadays

>people are out to get you
How about "normies who give inconsistent advice dont have your best interest in mind"

have you ever thought about the idea that different people have different ideas?
But generally you should believe nothing you read here.

A good example of this type of tactic being employed is Zuck's hearing at the Senate. Non-answers and circular arguments until the allotted time was spent. Nothing got solved, Facebook still spies on everyone for the CIA.

yeah and most people are retarded animals driven by social instincts. Anything else?

most people's social instincts function.
Yours do not.

>different people have different ideas
>yet normies can't accept that their worthless advice doesn't work for everyone, and lash out against anyone pointing it out
As i said, normies are either completely braindead or maliciously fucking around with robots

how is the idea that everyone is convinced of their righteousness baffling you?

They're completely braindead then, got it.
Whatever their motivation, they should be be ignored and their threads saged

After I fucked my friend's mom I don't like young girls, anything over 40 for me, older women are a lot sluttier, and having one submit herself to your 24 year old dick is so hot, especially if they're married and with a family, God, fucking another man's woman is such a turn on.

I just don't know where to meet them though, friend's mom was a one chance in a lifetime thing, no one was around, I was drunk, and she was pretty horny, even then she slapped me when I made the first move, then eventually gave in.

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>touching titties when I could be touching cardboard related to a childrens card game
Looks like you are the real virgin here friend

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Yes because im autistic as fuck, what gym can help me with that

>grow a beard
tfw i can grow a solid MED BVLL looking beard but then I feel like I have to completely change my personality to fit the beard and I dont want to do that around girls

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youtube.com/watch?v=dWNvlyycWzQ

orignl

Just wanna say this post is based

>people are just as scared as you are
they should be fuckin scared; most of them deserve to be whacked with a bat through the hyoid; fact.

this will make you able to fuck someone but this is still the bare minimum, doing this wont make anyone love you.

>2020
>he thinks love exists

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>All these DYELs getting filtered by the gym

This is why none of you get laid

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GURL LOOK AT THAT BODY
GURL LOOK AT THAT BODY
GURL LOOK AT THAT BODY
I I I WORK OUT

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>or buy some dumbbells and work out at home until the gyms open back up)
TOOO EXPENSIVE!

>Waah I have a victimhood complex.
>I assume you're from a higher social rank them me in the category system I've made in my head.
>I assume that you're also actively malicious to anyone you can, and are just picking on me because you can to try and cause me emotional distress.
>You can't be doing what you say you are because that would mean you're being nice to me and that the stuff you say is true and now I have a known way to better myself.

This one post is genuinely the hardest cope I've seen on this whole site in my time here.
Congratulations, take your award, then get out of your own ass and stop making delusions to make it everything but your fault or to put people below you morally to make yourself feel better for being so shitty.

>Paranoid and self delusional.
Or maybe you just don't want any of these methods people have told you to actually work, because it would demonstrate how easy it is to achieve the things you say you're fated never to have.
Gym of personal development and figuring out the hard way how to be social by understanding yourself and others better.
It's how I feign emotional competence, by understanding myself and others intellectually.

No matter what you do you can't magically tell if she's good or bad that's completely out of your control.

>But I feel like I have to.
How about you just...don't?
Don't ascribe to the perceptions you have of how bearded people "are supposed to act", because that's fucking retarded.

>Hey, my car is smoking and sputtering, what the hell should I do?
You should take it to the...
>WHAT BRUH I SHOULD JUST FIX IT HUH?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN BRUHHH IVE ALREADY TRIED EVERYTHING EVER IT'S NOT MY CAR IT'S GOD ALWAYS HATING ON ME WTF I DIDNT ASK FOR MY CAR TO BREAK DOWN
o...ok user. Good luck with that.

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>IT'S THE NORMIES who messed up my room
>IT'S THE NORMIES who turned me into a NEET
>it's the normies who took all my money
>It'S tHe NoRmIeS ThAt TuRnEd Me iNtO This
Sorry fren it wasn't the normies. It was you.

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Treat finding a woman as if it's finding a job.

>You have a basic amount of things you should do as a basis of basically, present yourself, don't be completely self absorbed, be tidy and hygienic.
>You have a longer, more advanced and more technical list that you shouldn't have to resort to, but since so many are very busy and selective, it doesn't exactly hurt you to have a look into those. Stuff like body shapes and pickup lines and beards and exercise.
>Some things you can change or hide if desperate, but many things you simply won't think to hide or control and many things you can't readily change, like having a degree or a PhD.
>You can't control in the end if they pick you. You can only go up to them, shoot your shot proverbially, and hope they accept you.
>If not, you move on, and repeat this until you find someone.

In b4 someone makes a wingy remark about comparing women and sex to a businesses or as an unkind judgement, or complains about lack of power in the situation. That's the way it's been before early humans were even beginning to be evolved from apes.
It's the way it's always been. Cope harder.

>So You're Saying
Get the FUCK off of Zig Forums you fucking Cathies. literal presumptuous retarded faggots

>Grow a beard
Hahaha fucking chinlets believe this.

Why would I want to obtain vapid whores that only care about looks and want a normal guy? I want a girl with personality that's at least as autistic as me if not more
Will I ever get that? Probably not. But I'm not gonna have sex just for the sake of having sex, sounds awful

Nah. Every place needs a cath or two that's what we call intellectual diversity. Something that you desperately need in your life. Your mom is only gonna cheer you on even if you can't piss in the toilet properly. a Cathie will at least give you the motivation to strike at something other than yourself so put the ego down and live it up. Also try to form some sort of argument instead of regurgitating something that you heard on youtube. In this regard you are no better than a NPC

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>pic related is an actual manatee
Whoops!

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Nigga get yo normie bitch ass out

>I'm just pretending to be retarded, maybe I can fool another retard if i call it intellectual diversity though
When its disingenuous presumptions made to mock, you are nothing but a literal retarded Cathy and a literal fucking meme that brings nothing intellectual to the table. Get off of Zig Forums, you do not belong here.

Literally the secret to giving out advice that can be followed
>spend years and become a professional in that area you're giving, give out your certifications on it too
>make the advice detailed as possible and can be followed in all different scenarios, maybe saving it to a personal online google drive/paste bin if its too long for the website your posting on
>make sure the advice actually succeeds, make sure you have a study on how its been used on a huge sample group that has all the extremities of variance among those in the group
>List your resources and detail them on how the pertain to the advice
>You must make this advice for free and readily available

Literally this is all you have to do. Why aren't you fucking normies doing it?

Yet you contradict your "intellectual" principles
>So You're Saying
LOL. Gotta love it when brainlets BTFO themselves nice try kiddo but this place is 18+. Go ahead and cope though

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no need to be intellectual to people who claim to be "intellectual", because they use presumptions to mock others. Its more useful to be blunt about it. Was just shaming retards. And it got to you, didn't like being called out for it because you immediately 180 your approach to be that of an "intellectual". Because if you used "so you're saying" for literally anything but a mocking presumption. You wouldn't get memed on it . But you continue being you Cathy, you're a literal joke

>manlet
>narrow shoulders
>wrists of a teenage girl
>balding
>ugly
>non white
>acne scars

i do work out but i only do it because i want to stay healthy. and i dress normal enough and keep good hygene. i'm about to turn 29 and i haven't even had my first kiss. There are just some men that will literally never experience anything close to a mutual feeling of affection from another woman

Sir I feel compelled to inform you that regardless of whether you are actually old or merely similar to an elderly person, your mind is stuck in the dark ages while the world kept turning, and I think this is where the conversation ends.
In other words: OK boomer

You got called out for being disingenuous
and then spazzed about it and now your
fragility shows. Amazing.
Here is your (you), you earned it

>>Meet no one because all gym girls are taken or will go for a chad
Well, that's not a reason not to try.
I went to the gym before the lockdown, been going for roughly 7 months at that point and it helped my social skills a lot plus I got a date out of it (which I messed up because muh autism but that's another story)

The thing is, there was this cute girl at the gym, I saw her often and started greeting her which eventually turned into smalltalk and then eventually I took my chances and asked her out, telling myself I'd rather hear a "no" than having to keep guessing whether she likes me or not.
Now, I completely blew it, but I did get a little extra confidence through working out plus the gym got me an opportunity I wouldn't have otherwise.

Still, the lockdown got me good, I'm back in isolation which I was so desperate to escape.

>Why aren't you writing me a detailed, full scientific thesis on a modern day topic that is often fluid and subective/specific while citing sources, spending large amounts of money, time, and manpower, while studying the specific topic in depth for valid scientific research into the topic that's of any use.
>To tell a looser on a board how to suck less.
>It's "all you have to do."

The absolute state of anons here, to put in so little effort into anything they do to alleviate what pains them, but expect someone to do a PhD's worth of effort in helping them.
We're giving advice nigger. Take it, and do some of the work yourself for once in your life. If you assume that your demands are nothing special for this kind of discussion, you'd already have a girlfriend and a successful career.

Don't worry chap. You'll bounce back and knock em dead when this is all over. You've actually done something instead of bitching about why you deserve more than what you put in.

If bluepill was a post...

This guy gets it. I wish robots would see it this way instead of acting like people are out to make their life worse. Empathy is something that has pushed civilization forward and has given everyone the luxury of being a robot. There is more to life than just surviving and trying to pass the time until death. Whatever dark hole anyone is in will be laughable in years to come.

And give you $30,000,000 in your severance. Again, bad example. You don't know what you're talking about.

And yet cockspear here looks like fucking eggman

>We're giving advice
And it failed bro. you gotta try again and again, become professional in it, do those steps in order to achieve your result. I mean if you stop trying you're just setting yourself up not being to do it. You're not putting in enough effort
nah guy, he's just not doing his best and trying it again till he succeeds. He just wants to be lazy

Based post, my boy.

> If you can't get it the first time then just don't try ever again
This is a good example of someone who will never be successful in much. Don't be like that guy

Ive completely given up on trying to get a gf

You posting that shit is equivalent of math teacher saying you only got 4 problems as homework, then open the book and see shit loke. :
1.)
1.1
1.2
1.3
1.4.1
1.4.2
2.)
2.1.1.1
...

A company is not going to pick some random person to become their CEO. The CEOs in top companies were often in high positions in smaller companies and before that were in lower positions in management either as a FLM or some office managment position. It was their willingness to relocate, put in the hours and learn everything about their business that got them into high positions across many companies.
Keep on telling yourself that hard work gets you no where though. The world needs your type to push brooms and flip burgers.

none of this is necessary to get a girl
>>Grow a beard
if you have to cope for ugliness with a beard be prepared to get cheated on the moment she sees you beardless and realizes "wow what an ugly piece of shit"

oh you mean this guy because thats the guy i was referencing to in this post with "not 'doing his best and trying it again till he succeeds' ",

its just a way to tell people how to get better at advice. I dont get why you guys dont want to try and try to get better, so other people can actually listen to that advice

dilate tr*noid

You posting this shit is like someone who's bad at math asking why they're doing bad when they do the minimal amount of work needed. If you wanted to do well then you'd do as much practice problems as possible without a teacher telling you to do more work. Of course deep down inside you don't want to do well because that takes work.

>Computer analogy
And this is why you guys dont get pussy

Every time I see that picture of the football chad and the cheerleader, I become more convinced that the picture is, in fact from my old high school, with the picture probably 15-20 years old at this point.

Literally the secret to obtaining men (for women)
>just exist

>you genuinely convince yourself that successful people don't work hard to succeed
>I can't into reading comprehension: the post
The picture talks about how its cringeworthy to see a hideously ugly manlet adopt some reddit-tier pack pack of self-improvement memes and then lose hope when they do it all but it nothing really changes

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>this is all you have to do
Lmao no.
Done all for the past 10 years and never even touched a girl.

I see golden pepe I can now post dubs

If it WAS a secret before, let it be known now: "The way to survive a virgin memory bond event with a woman is to not let her interrupt you when you have a genuine thought and feeling, and to not interrupt her when expressing."

>This has been a message from the Vagus Core.

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The nu male pube beard. Great idea user.

Stop caring

No really women will drain your life force away

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that's the problem. i AM doing it. well except i can't grow a full beard because i'm 18 but yeah.
doesn't make me less insecure or anxious.

>Getting mad at the fact bagging a woman is as easy as this and there is no simple redpill bullshit involved

Look at how many fat asses ITT recoiled that the thought of going to the gym. That is why they fail. OP gave you advice and you cant follow it because its too hard.

Thing is, I have a reputation for giving good advice.
I've taken multiple psychology papers as interest papers. I've counselled a group of four emotionally tangled couples who wanted to kill each other, of whom I was a part of, and sorted their various and numerous mental issues.
As of current, I have a reputation among friends and family as the one who never acts rashly or unwisely, and who knows exactly what people need to hear, and who has a near perfect control over my own emotions.
You want experience on counseling people without having to pay thousands, it's me. I'm not becoming your psychiatrist or writing a PhD on your issues and how to solve them to hold your hand through making yourself better and doing all the work for you, but you can be damn sure that my advice, same with all the other advice given here, is valid and helpful.
You have no reason to dispute it. You only want to so you can justify being as you are now.

You claim that laziness is present on my part, that I don't put in weeks of work and thousands of dollars to help you, yet you refuse to even consider acting on any help given.
You claim I'm trying again and again hoping I succeed, but you don't even try to begin with. And when you do, it's never even remotely different, or actually invested.
You state that I'm not doing my best and so you shouldn't listen, purely to justify you doing nothing.

You're not picking holes in an opposing argument, you're making excuses to yourself to justify your own laziness and try and make yourself feel better then you are, to try and get one last leg up over people you're afraid of finally recognizing as objectively better then you as you are.
You don't need a thesis, you need a good kick up the arse and a little personal drive to sort your own shit and not nitpick to justify not changing yourself.

I work at Walmart and live with my parents at 25. Still got a GF and girls pinning after me

Because I don't want to obtain anyone.

I started getting way more attention once I grew my beard. My girlfriend demands I dont shave it.

>go to the gym
>grow a beard
Absolute memes, the last three are somewhat correct though.
t. was a virgin four years ago and have had six partners since then
It usually just comes down to an attractive face and decent/interesting personality, everything else doesn't really matter.

>be born as son into a family of a billionaire oligarch
>best schools in the world
>opportunities lined up for you whatever you decide to do because daddy can just snap his fingers and magic happens
>even if you are a slob you will always be rich enough to just course through life on easy mode
>you can get famous just by existing within your family
wow that sure is hard

chadfags btfo

No, it's some crying sperg complaining about people he perceives as better then him, and making up the delusion that more successful people are successful out of unfair luck, and that trying to improve yourself is "trying to be something your not" and it's soo much better and more respectable to give up and not try because "You were never meant to".
It's pretty blatantly made to justify not having the same personal successes as someone else as being attributed entirely to external factors, so they can feel deep down that their internal factors aren't so bad

The secret to fashion is wearing form fitting clothes.
You're not going to pull off boot cut jeans with skinny legs, so consider skinny slim. You can wear that star wars shirt if it doesn't look like you're a child with your dad's shirt on.

Also, you come off as a whiny bitch, but I'm on Zig Forums, so that's understandable.

>go to the gym
Heavily genetic dependent. Muscle insertions, clavicle/hip ratio, high testosterone levels, and rib cage size is essential for looking good. Some men can't look good natty.
Most people can't grow a good beard and it's a bitch to maintain.
>groom your shit
No grooming for facial bone structure.
>dress normally
See pic related.
>smell normal
Not possible for ethics and some white groups. Pheromones is everything and you can't change them.

This is all surface level normie tier advice that doesn't do shit. What you need; collagen, surgeries, neck exercises, low bodyfat(gym-goers often are bloated because of muh strength), and roids.

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>Son of Billionaire Oligarch.
>Best schools in the world.
Oppotunities lined up for you wherever.
>Daddy snaps his fingers.
>Always be rich enough to be a slob.
>Be famous for existance.

You obviously don't consider other people enough. Pain's found everywhere.
>Now he's the son of a billionaire, he's going to be hounded all his life by bored journalists looking for sensitive information, rivals looking for information, gold diggers, "friends" who just want his money and don't care about him as a person, and likely even kidnappers or other criminals who want a hefty ransom.
>He's probably barely ever going to see his father. Probably not his mother either, unless his mother's a trophy wife, which is not good for a young boy to develop stably.
>What they don't tell you about the best schools in the world, is that they're made up of a mix of academics, savants, and scholars who can get enough scholarships to afford the place, and rich kids who're going to enjoy the fact they can turn highschool up to eleven because daddy has money, and big private schools keep it hush hush. I know from firsthand experience. I'm not well off, but I went to such a school, and it's either a dude who finished the maths curriculum at 15, studied rocket science with a tutor, then ran math clubs and was still better in every way then you, or louts who punch holes in walls, drink spirits they shouldn't have, and refuse to follow and instruction or request. I came out of there with an extensive depressive history, suicidal compulsions, and type two bipolar disorder.
>Opportunities lined up because daddy snaps his fingers.
>Except the truly successful don't do that. They don't shower their kids in wealth because there's too much. They make the kid earn it from a young age.
>And you'll never be able to be a slob, because every single part of your image will be scrutinized and reflect back on the family, on business, and on each other. Limelight life sucks for those who live in it.

No that is not literally all you have to do. I did all of those things and continued doing them for over 10 years and I never had a gf.

You also need to be confident and good at talking and entertaining and lead an active social life.

Nah, half of that is horse shit.
You don't have the ideal bone structure you'd like? Doesn't matter. There is more then one ways to look good, and fitness does that. Surgery is excessive. Anyone aside from seriously malformed or mutilated people can look good, and you aren't either.
Muscles give you that extra broadness and that slimmer waist. You probably won't notice it, but it will build in enough over time.
Facial structure can be changed with the right exercise. If you run a lot, it will trim down eventually as your body sheds all the weight it can afford to loose.
Dressing normally doesn't mean replicating a look. It means putting on appropriate clothing in general. If you want to look good, hold yourself better then the guy on the right with his slack jaw and half open eyes and his slouch.
And most people don't smell pheromones much at all. It's why perfume and cologne exist after all, because we don't smell scent.
And if you've met someone, by the time they're comfortable around you and love you, they'll have made the link between how you smell and you, and think you smell nice, even if biochemically, you shouldn't.

>Grow a beard
I fucking hate beards. Already do the rest.

SeeYou can do all the prep work you want, but actually going in there, sitting down and holding the interview is always going to be the key point it all turns on.

And when you work an 18+ hours a day job at the highest tier of difficulty where you work with hundreds of millions of dollars everyday and have to deal with the major shit that rolls uphill (as opposed to what most people like to gripe about) for four years, successfully while keeping everyone happy, the company working, and making money, you're bloody entitled to thirty million extra as a token of appreciation.

>some gymtards giving psych 101 boomer advice acting as if they know anything about the people they are preaching at
oh never change you savior complex fags never change

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You claim to be certain person, but don't prove your credentials, for all we know you could just be a Larper on the internet. You're not a professional until you post credentials. It takes no effort to write up a smooth line of words to manipulate somebody into thinking certain things and goad them into believing you. That is morally lazy You're not proving that the 40+ words in the op are valid and helpful as that post was saying the OP was unfit to give out advice because i guarantee you somebody can do all those things and still not obtain the result. That somebody can ask again and he'll be met with do a+c+d for a few years or mocking posts like you're not entitled to obtain that result. He can do a+c+d but he will notice, its pretty similar to the first set of "advice" and will feel like being lead around a trail obtaining none of the desired results.

But with , its an exact parody of OP's post, but you guys are giving excuses on why it cant be met and blaming it on that post, you guys dont want to work on being a professional so that advice is worth something, but expect a cheap set of "advice" to work on something that is much bigger then the advice is trying to "solve". There is a nugget of wisdom in the parody though, Talk is cheap, nobody wants a little 50+ world blurb of "advice" Post resources to professionals that correlate to the problem/advice and resources that go into greater detail and brings in some experiences. Hell sharing your own genuine experiences with the problem and posting your experience in solving the problem is better then giving a piece of dog food "advice", its an effort to put it in to sound genuine.

But who's kidding, this op is a bait because it was never genuine in the first place. You still haven't proven you're qualified to give advice, either post resources to prove you can/or some professional or be disqualified, because you don't want to try hard enough to prove you give "good advice"

>"No! This picture means what I want it to mean!"

I went to subway yesterday and two petite 6/10 girls were helping me and I thought to myself Holy shit these are the women that are in my league. It was so strange after being brainwashed by R9k to spot females in real life that aren't actually absolute gold digging cunts but just people with a personality. Really makes you think.

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you sound like fuckin fag

My fave abby winters chick. Thick as hell.

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She looks like the kind of hot bag girl at a local small-town supermarket where you would go back to one if your cars during her lunch break and she'd give you a ferocious blow-job and then swallow and that's all she wanted from you so when you start rubbing her pussy she gets super horny.

And by your own logic, you haven't given me any credentials to suggest why I should listen to you.

Although, if you want mine, they are as a person who was once a robot, borderline wizard, who went through; five years of torture of boarding school, time periods of my life where I would be manipulated by my father into fulfilling his wishes of sporting abilities, who would be pressured into a life I hated, never given the emotion or empathy I desired, and once my parents saw my brother (whom they already gave preferential treatment to) start scoring markably higher in academics them me, they all but abandoned me for a time.
None of the things I told you were told to me. They were the things I learnt the hardest way there is. And I have more unpleasant truths.
There is NOTHING that affects you that you do not have a say over. Collisions require two objects. You are responsible for everything about you, including the things you claim are unfair.
Or how about the knowledge that the only thing that you can ever do that will last longer then 70 years is something done to yourself. Nothing you do for your own end will matter in time.
I, unlike you, know what I am talking about because I have lived through it.
I know what it's like to truly stand alone in life, and to have the frankly titanic strength of heart to do so. Truly alone. No one and nothing but yourself. No r9k full of equally sad anons to laugh at, no friends to talk to, no support to lean on, nothing.
I've beaten depression and suicidal compulsions several times over. Half through force of will, bought on by the things I'd felt and learnt.
I know how much that strength costs, and how readily one who has it wants to not have it.
I know what it's like to have everything you loved used against you or destroyed by people desperate for their own validation from you.
I know things about life that you will never know, despite how much you will claim to suffer.
And that's only a fraction.

Is that air you're breathing?

I came out of that life of emotional, physical and sexual abuse sane enough to never want another soul to have to know the things I learnt.
Two others I know of who went through similar things did not.
One, who went through half as much as I, acts as if she's a beaten stray dog to anyone but her mother.
The other, who went through three quarters as much as I, is in a mental hospital.
I'd later go on to study several medical, psychological and biological faucets of humans, achieve the closest thing to true enlightenment that exists, save my parent's marriage on several occasions, some without them knowing, guide several people to mindfulness.
Those are my qualifications for giving advice.

What are yours for disputing it?

I mean, it's not factually correct if that's what you mean.
It's probably some depressed user who wrote that. It certainly reads like textbook depression thinking.
Don't take life advice on happiness from the person who physically can't be happy.

I do all this. 26 and still a Virgin. There is no cure all to life. It is all circumstantial.

You can have all the qualifications, but you still need to actually turn up to the interview and talk to the person.

"So you are saying" means asking for clarification. There's nothing wrong with that if it's a hack like Perterson who will never espouse a position if pressed on it.

>all my friends found girlfriends purely by chance in their classes during their degrees
>here I am, 25 years old and in the last year of my degree and never met anyone
Guess not all of us can be lucky like the average normalfaggot

Man on the left only looks so wide because he has built up traps and is holding his shoulders in the right place, as observed by the muscles around his armpits.and neck and drawing a line around his ribcage and through the bone joint placements.
Guy on the right has a legitimate medical disorder caused by aneuploidy of a sex chromosome, which is evident by his body shape, height features and hair, and still looks pretty good with a basic amount of personal upkeep.
Cope harder user.

Read it again nibba. It's a guy SAYING it's cringy, because it's "Determined by luck of genetics or parents anyway".
If you read into it a little bit more, it's just a way to make himself feel better about not succeeding like others he thought did.

his fram is still larger than most guys i could never look like him that's just basic genetics not everyone can look good so get a grip you buffoon

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at the absolute most I MIGHT be able to get this physique

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>Bullshit excuses for why he doesnt want to put effort into getting a girl

>manlet
>can't grow a beard
>dress like a retard
>don't wear deodorant

Still have a gf (btw she's taller than me) it's all about the personality my good sir.

Yeah but she isn't blonde and blue-eyed. If she's not a practice gf then you're both trash.

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>LOL KIDDO
>IMLAFING.PNG
>calling anyone underage