I don't understand the point of Buddhism: it feel like a cope. "Just ignore your desires bro, just keep meditating bro...

Of course but it isn't above being human. Enlightenment is our real nature

Buddhism is widely misunderstood by the west as a philosophy of ignoring the world, but in reality, it's more complex than that.
Buddhism also lost the point of its own philosophy over the generations, and just because the mainstream image of Buddhism is a bunch of monks meditating which your average suburban fuck would think is "mystical" or something, doesn't mean it's accurate.

Buddhism is more about understanding your own mind and deepening your self-awareness, and not letting desire take hold of your actions. It's recognizing that the world's pleasures are fleeting and understanding that true stability will not come from attempting to experience abundance, but it's also recognizing that it's best to find moderation and a middle ground in life because even extreme asceticism isn't going to bring about peace.
It's also understanding that "you" don't really exist in the sense that your identity is also fleeting. Once you get into the nitty gritty concepts of Buddhism, your average spiritualist would be scared shitless to contemplate it.
Buddhism teaches that "you" are just a collection of sense phenomenon interacting with sensors. Thought is sensory phenomenon received by the Mind, Sight is sensory phenomenon received by Eyes, Touch is sensory phenomenon received by Skin, etc., and each part make up an individual consciousness that brings about the whole experience of being.
But without any of those relations, there's nothing. Seems simple, obviously, because it is, but that also means that your identity and thoughts of yourself are manufactured by the Mind and received by the Mind as a phenomenon that we aren't fully aware of.
Meditation is about focusing past the thoughts and being aware of the space in-between. The more aware you are of that space, the more you recognize how much mental chatter tends to be the mover of your reality unconsciously, and that without that mental chatter, "you" is just an illusion. But there's still being.

That's because Orthodoxy is the best way of dealing with the world, the passions and death.

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can't speak for monks but it just seems like teaching self control. you could pig out or you could learn to eat healthy portions and stay in shape. indulgence isn't freedom

the appeal of buddhism as far as I know is that everything is meaningless and nothing exists. if you reach enlightenment you stop dealing with the illusion of reality.
the idea that we are trapped in this shitty universe and can leave forever if we let go sounds nice.
but that's just me, a western layman atheist who has taken a single religious studies course.

>Buddhism: it feel like a cope
>stoicism is the biggest cope
>philosophy and religion is a circle jerk of dumb fucks regurgitating the same shit
>its more of a neurological skill than a religion
All americans either:
-fat
-underaged
-Ignorants
Monkeys in the palm of Buddha. You are better off to Walmart.

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I randomly read a story about the buddha on lit, it's pretty good stuff, about how he gave that guy a hallucination or something so he would understand maya and he lost everything he had accumulated and it was so powerful to me that realization you lose everything you have in this world.

I also thought like with Alexander the great they first encountered yogis in india and considered them stoic philosophers because that was their cultural reference and with Alexander he lost someone important to him and it destroyed him and gautama was destined to be a great king as well, it's this sort of universal thing that you see in everyone's lives for the most part.

>it feel like a cope.
It is,like every believe.

It's not rejecting the world, it's accepting the world as it really is. Desire is inherently absurd.

>The one post in the thread with actual knowledge of Buddhism has no (you)s
I'm not surprised. OP if you actually want to understand what Buddhism is all about, read this post and then read some actual fucking Buddhist writing. If you want to circlejerk about this cope or that cope, by all means, carry on.

Brilliantly good annon sorry if didn't adress you. I would add that Zen Budhism takes it a step further and introduces the concept of enlightment thru diligence and art, and so a ferryman or a swordman can reach enlightment in the mastering of their craft. In theory 'anyone' can be a holly man or women.
It's funny how the well worded and well thought answers get avoided like the plague in here.

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I like your parallel with Gautama and Alexander annon. Will research for further intelectual delight.

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>and so a ferryman or a swordman can reach enlightment in the mastering of their craft.

Absolutely. In a sense Zen Buddhism attempts to teach people that you can turn much of life itself into the meditation that ends up helping you achieve enlightenment. And with a craft of some sort, as you said, it's very easy to get into a meditative state anyways, because your attention needs to be focused on the present moment when you're working on maybe a painting, or crafting with wood, or doing metal works, or even programming.

>In theory 'anyone' can be a holly man or women.

You could pass by any regular person and they could be enlightened, but they don't advertise it, they're just being and living with a deeper awareness. You end up back where you started but with a deeper footing in the present when one becomes "enlightened".

Zig Forums just being Zig Forums I suppose, still gotta put it out there

in Buddhism, the highest ideal is that of a Bodhisattva, one who is able to attain Buddhahood but chooses to remain in the world to help all living beings throughout time achieve liberation.

Every religion is a cope

this is a very uneducated comment.

>Stoicism, a similar idea philosophically, tells you to "do whaf you want but not to expect that anything will come out of it."
Stoicism has two doctrines, live like nature and pursue virtuous life like Cato (justice), Socrates (wisdom), temperance and courage.

Buddhism is merely following the Noble eight fold path laid by Buddha Gautama which states that 1) life is suffering 2) craving causes it 3) ceasing cravings my any means is no suffering 4) try eightfold path

Is that easy, no desire no suffering according to Buddha's instead Stoicism requires one to avert and desire couragous things only. Sounds as boring because it is

You can't be a Buddhist if you have tar dive dyskinesia though. That is the flux of the issue I commonly face as someone who was enabled some time ago to roleplay suicide when my dick wasn't getting sucked by Buddhism, early in my career. If you can't intimately practice community shaping through erotic roleplay, what's even the point? I'm tired of living off War Vetran Memorial Highway and receiving therapeutic Male adhedonism pos. reinforcement or reading white determinism when I fawn a big t shirts Asa gf. Though this is the counter to teen suicide rates in small communities, when I extended my community for the purpose of very large unlimited blood fountain for Asa gf, as a common consult to community worship--- it turns out I'm more of a hunter gatherer build than a sexual symbol. They are many the reasons why I loved my ex and why she fitna end up in a mystery novel if she doesn't hmu for the procreation

>o whaf you want but not to expect that anything will come out of it.
That's Vaishnavism

Yes, only a leevel 31 enlighted could use the dharmic nukes but we are Buddhist a religion of peace

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