So, we wake up, go to work spend hours doing boring, tiresome and uncomfortable shit we don't like doing, because we have to make money so we can pay for our basic necessities to survive and also get whatever other shit we want, and then we go to sleep...
Ocassionally we'll get some free time, i guess, every once in a while, and in those moments we usually just consume media that doesn't mean shit, or spend time on a hobby that doesn't mean shit.
Like, really? I look at my parents for example, they spend 90% of their time working and doing things that make them exhausted, every day, every week, every month, every year, ever since i can remember... Then when they get their free time my mom mostly reads books and my dad watches shows... Me? I go to college, which is the same to me as work is to my parents, something i don't want to do, but have to, then when i get free time i play vydia, read manga, watch anime, browse Zig Forums...
Am i missing something here? Is this actually what life is?
you grow up, you work to make money to support yourself, then you fill up your extra time with hobbies until you die. that's how life goes.
Landon Hernandez
nice nihilistic view, nobody is stopping you from being le epic hermit that lives alone in the woods, if you don't like society don't live in it, what you wrote has been said countless times, it's nothing revolutionary nor any sort of exceptional view on society.
Colton Nelson
I mean, i just don't see the point of it all, feels absolutely dull, why do people have kids if life has no point? It's like dooming them to feeling numb, or worse.
I know i'm not saying anything that hasn't been said many times already, but i like having a discussion with people to see their takes on it.
I don't have a problem with society itself, since it makes sense to me, it's something we just kind of evolved to and because of it we've reached the most comfort humanity has ever had, my problem is with the human condition, what is there to life that everyone seems to see that i don't? What is there to life that people see it as beautiful or important to perpetuate it?
This requires money for land and shelter for comfortable living, or the bushcraft survival knowledge and environment available. It's not legal to go live in the woods most places. Even if you don't like society you still have to cuck to their faggot laws or be locked up.
Kevin Gomez
Life is what you want to make it. Why do you think that humans fought through thick and thin for survival? It's almost certain that there's a meaning to life, if not a collective one than an individual one. It's also more likely than not that there's a life after this one. I live my life in a satisfactory way, living up to my values and doing things I want to do. No meaning to life? Then go give life a meaning, user. Make life interesting, not in traditional means, in the way you want to.
James Williams
Yes, you are missing something. How old are you, user? Some things take time to understand.
John Stewart
>It's also more likely than not that there's a life after this one. Of course there is life after this one. The question is whether we will be the same person or even retain our memories of this life.
Isaiah Collins
I don't know, part of me believes we fight hard for survival for the same reason other animals, without our intelect, do, because of our programming to do so. I don't see the idea of a meaning to life as an impossibility, but i can't come up with any ideas that are truly satisfactory to me. I also don't know how i could give meaning to my own life by myself, i don't have dreams, i don't have a bucketlist, no career goals because i hate every career there is, and my hobbies are nothing but distractions that feel empty afterwards and just kind of bore me, i don't enjoy anything geniunely, i don't know how to give my life meaning.
>I mean, i just don't see the point of it all, feels absolutely dull, why do people have kids if life has no point? It's like dooming them to feeling numb, or worse. it is what it is, kiddo. either pick up a hobby to waste time until you die, or off yourself and skip the hassle. your call, bud.
Jaxson Cox
I've seriously considered the latter through out most of 2018 and 2020, but i just don't have it in me, for many reasons, fear of death, fear of going to hell, not wanting to make family and friends sad, fear of judgement due to doing it even tho i had an easy life most would kill to have... And idk, i'd like to spend some more time with my friends until we graduate, since they're pretty cool, but after we part ways i won't have much left.
>because of our programming to do so That's where the answer lies! Why were we programmed to do this. You and I share the same troubles, friend. I too am struggling to answer why we are like this. Perhaps we aren't supposed know. Perhaps at the end of our lives a Godly power tells us and explains it to us just as adults read a story to a child. As for not knowing what to do with your life, I suggest isolating from any contact for a sustained period of time if possible. No given amount, as much as you need. I understand if that's not possible due to circumstances, however. The way I like to think of it, there are two sides the the brain, the body. The rational, physical side that we all get to know, and the spiritual one, the one that we can't fully understand, the one that stays with us after death. In order to find purpose, you must acknowledge your spiritual part, there are some things I like to do that I don't know why I like to do them. It just, how do I put it? pleases me. Try to find these things. The things that please you, even if you don't know why they do. Or maybe I'm just a nutjob schizo who's going crazy.
Luke Mitchell
>I'm 21. You won't want to hear this, nor will you heed it, but you're still a kid. You won't even know who you are till you're 30, so toss your second hand philosophy out the window
Brandon Lopez
You would be happier if you went on Grindr and got TOPPED change it up a bit
Aiden Harris
>WORKING IS SO HORRIBLE >Anime character with cigarette in mouth I don't necessarily disagree with you, but do you have to go about it like this? It's boring and thats more often than not the only thing it is. If you rewire your brain, you might start to enjoy it and there is always a myriad of things you can do to make money. Many crazy things will happen in the future and you won't be the man who singlehandedly caused any of it. If you can't be satisfied with that then you need seriously need to change something, because you will be bitter your entire life and whatever enjoyment you could get out of your job or whatever will go to waste and become nothing. Nothing you do is or will ever be particularly important and you can learn to enjoy quite a lot of things if you bother trying.
Yes it is, because that's how the global elites make profit. But you're only in college, and work is gonna take a lot more time than college. It's only going to get worse. Technology has improved a lot, but humans have not.
Andrew Watson
welcome to life, enjoy your stay it's quite amusing, seeing a 21 year old post shit with images i used to post about world views i may have had a decade ago. shits cute. either way, if you haven't killed yourself yet there's a strong possibility that you likely never will. keep doing what you're doing, accept that this is the way the world works and that how the world works is simply a collective unspoken way of life everyone else has agreed upon. life isn't special, it's not meaningful, it's not something inherently important. you're alive, you do shit, you die, and someone replaces you. don't worry about it, otherwise you're going to end up like everyone else here trying to lazily work some unseen by the normies way of living that lets you any% life from being a neet to being a billionaire playboy because you rubbed your dick on the arm of a chair 6 and 3/5ths times at an 81 degree angle.
Carter Thompson
>It's boring and thats more often than not the only thing it is.
I don't think you're crazy, you just have your perspective of life and humanity that works for you, that's honestly a great thing. I've always struggled with being spiritual unfortunately, i gave up my parent's religion years ago, faith is something that just never clicked with me for some reason, even tho i wish it did, since it seems to give life meaning and make it more bearable. Still, i appreciate and thank you for the advice, user :3
I know i'm young, but that's also something that scares me a bit, i probably still have a long way to go and i'm already sick, tired and bored of it all, i don't see it getting any better unfortunately.
Sure, why not?
idk, i just find the aesthetic pleasing for some reason, i admit that i'm an edgy attention whore most of the time, so it probably has something to do with that, but i just can't help myself. I guess you have a point, but like, how does one rewire their brain to have suck a different outlook and feeling on things?
The idea that life only gets worse is something that bugs me, especially cuz i think it's true, i have a lot more free time and luxury then my parents, but i still don't feel happy, and i know it'll only be shittier from here onwards, more responsibilities, more hostile and demanding environments, more stress, less time...
My problem isn't necessarily that i worry about it, it's more like i'm bored all of the time, and i can't find the motivation to do anything that i have to do, which is why i'm a pretty shitty student at college that has only been getting through by luck, but like, life is hard and it just gets harder, and i know i'm gonna suffer painful consequences if i don't manage that, but without any true motivation it's hard to do so.
Like, you've got me curious, so you see the current me as someone similar to who you once was, how did you manage to change your mentality? How do you feel about you life today?
Even without spirituality, there's so much that science hasn't discovered about the brain and body. Infinite ways to rewire it, as mentioned, infinite ways to change it, get it to experience new things, and substances to take, if that's your thing. One thing I've learned; in your life there will be people who cross your path. These people are a little different from the rest. They know something special, sometimes they are spiritual, sometimes they aren't. Cherish and stick close to these people. They will provide you with answers give it enough time. Don't let them slip out of your grip, or you'll be left to find said answers by yourself. Godspeed dude, have a good life.
Luis Long
>More often than not, doing a job is literal suffering and I can't do anything to enjoy it more no matter what. >but like, how does one rewire their brain to have suck a different outlook and feeling on things? You'll want to balance instantaneous pleasure (porn, music, youtube videos, Zig Forums, games) and enjoyment given from investments (Learning a language, working out, acquiring a skill. Stuff that becomes fun once you get results with it.) Get enough sleep, eat only healthy food and remember to at least move your body whenever you can. There is no reason you can't do that at work. Don't be afraid to get bored every once i a while and meditate.
Cherishing and sticking close to people that are dear to my heart are the only thing that still makes sense to me, so i plan on keeping that up, hopefully it does provide me with those answers. Thank you, i hope you have a good life too, user :3
I see, i guess that makes sense, resetting the reward system pretty much, i've been struggling with that for years, as life got harder and i became more depressed i started relying more and more on coping mechanisms like junk food, porn, etc... Perhaps my reward system is fucked, idk if things like working out and nofap truly have the effect many say they have, but even if they do, i've tried to change for years and i just fail, i'm legit addicted to my coping mechanisms since they're all quick and easy dopamine, i'm too weak.
I understand, i'm not saying i don't get it, perhaps i'm just venting, because it does really suck, in my eyes.
I do have wonderful friends that are truly family to me, i would die for them, but at the same time everything else is unbearable and once we graduate we'll all go our separate ways, if i can even manage to graduate that is, and i can see that departure genuinely breaking me.
I know this might sound really dumb on my behalf, but what's the Bible verse supposed to mean, like, the interpretation of it?
>It's either work or starve out here. You haven't heard of Diogenes of Sinope.
Leo Butler
>Like, you've got me curious, so you see the current me as someone similar to who you once was, how did you manage to change your mentality? How do you feel about you life today? i grew to accept that there's nothing more to life than what you make of it, and it doesn't even matter if you do anything in life anyways. you live your life however you wish to live it, however it makes you happy, and just do whatever it takes to make yourself not stay up all night thinking about what ifs and what could have been's. just do. live and exist, do some shit or don't do anything. vibe.
Robert Sanchez
You need to join a good young adult group at your local church, talk to the youth pastor about this stuff, and do activities together, study the Bible together, etc. You will make some good friends too hopefully. Either that, or I would suggest reading 'The Brothers Karamazov' by Dostoevsky, particularly the part where Father Zossima recalls his life from his deathbed. I've been where you are and I can relate to you quite a bit actually.
Connor Sanchez
>i've been struggling with that for years, as life got harder and i became more depressed i started relying more and more on coping mechanisms like junk food, porn, etc... You can already trace your misery back to your own actions. If what you see in porn now has become the line for what you can take enjoyment in, then maybe it isn't so crazy to suggest that it reflects on your view of life. That you can't enjoy it unless you get to personally bring about a revolution, is not something that a healthy man cares about. What you suffer from now is probably just a feeling and I doubt you would care about any of this stuff if you were satisfied with your life.
>homeless mentally ill schizo who begged others for scraps So it's either work or starve or be homeless
Jack Gomez
>durr life boring >all you do on life is work until you die, what is point Kek, glad I dont have to worry about shit like this because my life be so epic. My life is never boring because I have a higher swag coefficient than you OP. Don't bother replying to this, I won't read it. I just wanted to tell you that my life better than your life
Caleb Mitchell
>but what's the Bible verse supposed to mean, like, the interpretation of it? It means no matter what you do, you will die and any accomplishments you made will be of no use to you. Any struggle you made through life, even if you achieved something out of it, time will ultimately destroy it remembrance of it.
'And when I turned myself to all the works which my hands had wrought, and to the labours wherein I had laboured in vain, I saw in all things vanity, and vexation of mind, and that nothing was lasting under the sun'. - Ecclesiastes 2:11
'And I said in my heart: If the death of the fool and mine shall be one, what doth it avail me, that I have applied myself more to the study of wisdom? And speaking with my own mind, I perceived that this also was vanity'. - Ecclesiastes 2:15
I think that's a good starting point, i have issues with anxiety and just caring too much about stuff i shouldn't, so if i could make myself follow this it would already be a step in the right direction, after that just gotta find out what makes me happy, which seems like the hardest part to me unfortunately.
I don't know if i would fit in at church, i'm very skeptical of religion, i wish i believed in something, but i just don't buy it, i'd either have to fake believing in it or i'd have to hope people accept me anyway, even tho i'm a non believer. I'm gonna give it a read, thank you for the recommendation, my friend :3
I know, my life is pretty much perfect and most would kill to have it, so in my mind i always knew that the only one to blame for my misery could only be myself. I guess if i liked my body, had a significant other, things like that, then perhaps my attitude could be totally different, or not, i won't know it until i try it, but it's so difficult to do so, i've tried losing weight for years and always failed, tried to quit porn and always failed, i know giving up destructive habits would be a start, but i can't seem to do it for some reason.
If you can live without working, without starving, then what are you working for? Diogenese lived to the age of 89. So he lived at least 60 years not working or starving. So what else is there to life?
Do you hope to find enlightenment through labour? or maybe salvation? If not, then what are you working for? Why are you even alive?
Christian Thomas
You missed the part where you join the army and execute terrorist mudslimes in their streets.
