Genuinely fuck this faggot

user, he killed himself. he's dead now because he killed himself with a shotgun.

alice in chains was always the superior band with the superior vocalist

>Frances is most likely Billy Corgan's daughter.
Nah, she wouldn't be a womanlet with two alpha parents like that

Courtney killed him. But it he was still a Junkie. He was literally going to take his money and fuck off with a different girl before she gave him heroin mixed with date rape drugs alongside alcohol. No one shoots themselves if they have enough opiates to do it without the gun. Heroin is a quicker and probably less painful death.

why is every nirvana thread the same shitty circlejerk from seething pumpkinsfags, gayicfags, and hair metal boomers?

nigga, this guys was always staging everything about his life, so he did it with his death too. everything was simply for his white, hippie, motherfucking pride

ikr

no one thinks that go kill yourself

>Had the whole world on a string, for awhile brought alternative music to the mainstream.
>Made some pretty good albums, nothing Earthshattering but still really solid body of work.
>Get based Steve to produce his last album,
>Corgan called him the best writer of the 90s and almost offed himself out fear of being overshadowed.
>Welp, did all the drugs, belly hurts, music is now loved by millions of people.
>Shiiiit Ian Curtis didn't have it this good, Shaun Ryder had the drugs but wasn't moaning.
>Kurt literally could have had all the medical help in the world, could have taken a break from music, married one of the girls from Shonen Knife...(I would have)
>HAHAHA fuck it time to die

Seriously, he had to have been murdered you don't just make it to the top and die that way. Also, Mark Sandman is the true tragic hero of the 90s, not Kurt.

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His label made him do it retard. Those original mixes are godly though

> Being this mad at someone who died 26 years ago

corgan did get overshadowed too kek

>n-nirvana was g-good

there is no aic song as good as ANY song off bleach, nevermind, incesticide, or in utero

>nirvana hate thread
Great, i hate nirvana fans even more than tool fans. bunch of people who are not interesting, like kurt, but are constantly trying to be "the" interesting person in the room by having cliche "alternative" takes that were literally spoonfed to them by their favorite left leaning news source

>everything was simply for his white, hippie, motherfucking pride
Yes

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>His label made him do it retard
not true, kurt himself was a bitch about the original mix, this is very well known

>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST BE SUCCESSFUL AND MAINSTREAM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It's only cringe to be successful and mainstream when you build your entire identity on shitting for people who embrace being successful and mainstream without irony. Irony does not exempt you from being the exact same thing as the people you claim to be "better than".

Kurt was a disingenuous, pretentious, hateable hack of a human "being", the user is right regardless of if his facts are straight.

>confronts "antisemitism"
>is a zionist bootlicker

>Based Billy loved his 70s and 80s radio rock.
>Doesn't hide his love of Cheap Trick and Rush
>Moral of the story, be more like a based Billy and not a Kurt cuck

how are you going to fuck someone who's dead?

>cucks cobain so hard he winds up killing himself

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Based

damn getting old is terrible

kurt is more patrician than anybody on this delusional board

thread/

I love the Pumpkins and billy shits all over Cobain, but Kurt also loved 70s rock and pop (there's an Aerosmiths album in his top list ffs) and it was pretty transparent he always wanted to make it big. He never hid the fact he loved pop.

Kurt was a phony, that's the whole point. He was the same as any other white trash piece of shit who liked Aerosmith in the 70's but he pretended he was something "more". This is why genuine rock fan hate Kurt so much, his persona was phony as fuck and he attempted to hate rock music, it was transparent you're right about that, but it doesn't make him a likeable person or a good musician. "I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED" tier argument.

Nah he seems genuine to me. Deeply loved his punk records and bands, and had no trouble putting his idols, even if completely unknown outside their local scene, touring with them to introduce them to the world. He had a hatred boner for cock rock and the likes and was pretentious about it, but dude was undeniably genuine.

>genuine
>bases his personality on somebody else, being Melvins afro man
>does things for clout
Ok buddy, I'm sure you believe that but it isn't true. Genuine people are generally not popular people, because they often express true feelings rather than trying to have a carefully crafted image meant for optimum "coolness" which is what Kurt did.

daily reminder to report all sojaks and not reply to them

If anything Buzzo seems much more of a phony than Kurt. Hell, even SY in the 90s, as the embassadors of the cool, saying who are cool and punk and who aren't (see Kim's take on the Pumpkins form her autobiography) seems like more of that pretentious attitude of typical of underground scenes.

Reminder that if he were still alive he would be a blue-checkmark SJW on Twitter;
mashable.com/2016/04/05/kurt-cobain-social-good/

you have been brainwashed by Zig Forums. politics was not the same back then. at the time of nirvana, kurts opinions were not mainstream. the ""soiboi social virtue signaller type"" was not a phenomenon. he grew up in seattle, a working class city plagued by macho men and violence. kurt was necessary to be the voice that finally said fuck guns n roses

why is it not common place kobain was in the closet ?
>Because I couldn't find any friends — male friends that I felt compatible with — I ended up hanging out with the girls a lot. I just always felt that they weren't treated with respect. Especially because women are totally oppressed.

This was literally me and im not trying to equate myself to him but most times males seek to make female friends is because they cant handle masculine males. There's also his sob story of hanging with a gay kid in his teens because allegedly he felt bad for him because he was always alone. How much cope can one dude have, sexy twink faggot ugh

>he grew up in seattle, a working class city plagued by macho men and violence.
And hipster college kids....the defining factor of "grunge" was that all the bands were half hesher/metalhead looking guys and half college kid new wave/alternative hipsters.

>kurt was necessary to be the voice that finally said fuck guns n roses
That wasn't necessary. "FUCK POOR WHITE PEOPLE AND THEIR CULTURE" no, fuck you.

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>He had a hatred boner for cock rock
thats what makes him a total fag

He was a self hating poor white person who desperately want to be accepted by Olympia hipsters like Calvin Johnson. That's why he got so heavily into the social justice stuff.

So what are you saying? That if he were alive in 2020 he'd reject all of that shit? I don't buy it.

>Genuine people are generally not popular people
lmao found the incel

I'm well aware that the context was different. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt (unlike you) that his beliefs were actually sincere and that he wouldn't change them just because they became politically dominant.

well im glad the "hipster college kids" took over. because its what was needed for the 90s diy scene to truly flourish i.e. emo, alternative, indie
the fuck guns n roses was more fuck the macho man flashy glamorous narcissistic type
be careful what you wish for. unless youre chad i wouldnt hope for this type of attitude to make a comeback. you may think its some sort of dramatic answer to the soi boi revolution of today but i promise you if you lived through the 80s you wouldve hated david lee roth and tommy lee. particularly since Zig Forums is dominated by introverts and beta males and I say that not in a negative stance simply observational.
i dont know what hed be like today and neither do you. its irrelevant. to take a guess he would support krist novoselic's political stances
i agree, i dont think he would distance himself too far from his beliefs in the 90s

Choose a side
>I love Nirvana and Nirvana was always for normies but pretending to be alternative
Or
>I am genuinely someone who likes unpopular things regardless of what critics and tastemakers think, making me not a normie

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>i agree, i dont think he would distance himself too far from his beliefs in the 90s
Ergo he'd be another celebrity crying on Twitter about Drumpf right now.

>well im glad the "hipster college kids" took over. because its what was needed for the 90s diy scene to truly flourish i.e. emo, alternative, indie
>the fuck guns n roses was more fuck the macho man flashy glamorous narcissistic type
Couldn't be said by someone who listened to less Guns N' Roses music. It is amazing to me how your kind of "people" are, you don't listen to music at all but judge anyway. You're not to be taken seriously, and aren't in any musician circles. Probably because you're not a musician anyway.

Meant for

false dichotomy
you are retarded
your taste in media isn't your personality

go back to pol
i like guns n roses, i like van halen, i like kiss. im not insulting their musical merits, but they were at an end of an era and a cultural counterpoint was necessary for the evolution of rock music. i know the type youre accusing me to be and i promise im not that. i play multiple instruments if you must know

>go back to pol
No thanks.

well then dont take the subject away from music to politics

>His label made him do it retard. Those original mixes are godly though

Why do you always hear this from white musicians? Ive never heard a black singer say that.

Stop talking about a musician that made inflammatory political comments then.

>they were at an end of an era and a cultural counterpoint was necessary for the evolution of rock music
Yeah because rock music has evolved SO MUCH since Nirvana. The genre totally isn't in a creative dead end because grunge killed its libidinal energy.

>i know the type youre accusing me to be and i promise im not that. i play multiple instruments if you must know
Fair enough
>but they were at an end of an era and a cultural counterpoint was necessary for the evolution of rock music.
Not really, rock defaulted to its defaults by the 00s, grunge being a footnote that honestly had more of an impact on alternative music and pop music.

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youre shifting the argument to pure politics, im still relating back to music
doesnt matter. it still evolved in the 90s and with nirvana and thats all it had to do. what happened after is not its fault. regardless, rock had a pretty good run

>regardless, rock had a pretty good run
Oh so you're one of those typical "I literally only like top 40 music and only thing music promoted by the mainstream is important or relevant" people. Figures, Nirvana was always a top 40 fad band.

>youre shifting the argument to pure politics, im still relating back to music
I've said nothing that's off topic to a conversation about Kurt Cobain. Much of his political talk related it to his music directly, e.g.
>If any of you, in any way, hate homosexuals, people of a different color or women, please do this one favor for us — leave us the fuck alone. Don’t come to our shows and don’t buy our records.
>If you're a sexist, racist, homophobe or basically an asshole, don't buy this CD. I don't care if you like me, I hate you.
If you're going to tell me I can't talk about any of that because we have a politics board, then fuck you.

bold assumption. youd be wrong too
Ok, just making sure. I dont care to discuss "drumpf" or modern twitter politics here
Nothing wrong with that statement of kurt too. so what? many of his contemporaries would share the same opinion. dead kennedys and black flag were of similar stances

Nirvana were OK but the funny thing about them was that they wanted to be all edgy and shit, and then signed to a major label

supposedly kurt wanted his music to reach more people, and bring more attention to the underground scene. but yeah maybe it was the money, can you blame them? every other rock band wouldve done the same and history proves this

And that's bad because? Their popularity helped bring tons of underground bands to new audiences. Shonen Knife, Boredoms, Daniel Johnston, etc. The guys from Meat Puppets were pretty grateful to Kurt for touring with them. What did the likes of "true punks" like Buzzo ever did for their scene besides shit talking the ones who made it big, years after they're gone?

>bold assumption. youd be wrong too
I'm going to be bolder and just say I was correct. You might not THINK you're a top 40 lemming, in your mind I'm sure you aren't. But the fact that you immediately disowned rock as "something of the past" says depths about you and your listening habits, you don't know any new rock because your tastes aren't rooted in rock scenes in which plenty good music is still coming out if you pay attention, and you also only consider music important if it is a giant nationwide trend like Nirvana and grunge was.

Lots of people made it big on independent labels. Obviously it was the money and girls

>Their popularity helped bring tons of underground bands to new audiences. Shonen Knife, Boredoms, Daniel Johnston, etc. The guys from Meat Puppets were pretty grateful to Kurt for touring with them. What did the likes of "true punks" like Buzzo ever did for their scene besides shit talking the ones who made it big, years after they're gone?
The difference between a rocker and an alt rocker. Melvins covered KISS with dignity, Nirvana did it as a joke to shit on them. Kurt is "genuine" my fucking ass.

t. big tough defender of Israel

He covered The Vaselines and the Meat Puppets, bands that he loved. You just seem mad he dissed some cock rock bands tbqh

exactly. buzz is too bitter of a person. he even denied an opening slot for the foo fighters after dave himself generously reached out, then publicly bragged about it. what a bastard. to think him and kurt were teenage friends...
i regularly support local artists, many of which are rock. i dont have to prove any of this to you or your shallow arguments. i worry that you assume the only options as a music fan are rock fan, and top 40 fan. dont be so ignorant and think a little before jumping to conclusions
kurt only passed it as a joke after gene simmons belittled them and patronised their cover version. besides nirvana were barely known at the time of that covers album. kiss was doing poorly at that stage
youre right too

go listen to Kanye's last call retard

haha cock rock sucks, faggot

>seriously why does he get the attention he gets he’s not even half as good as the media makes him out to he?

He's a white man who committed suicide. This is who "they" decided young white guys should look up to. They want to normalize blowing your brains out.

Nah I just make the distinction between rock an alt rock attitudes, and also good music and shitty music. I don't pretend the latest mumble rap EP is good like you do, and I also love bands who just like Nirvana dissed the shit out of so called "cock rock" such as Soundgarden, contemptible human beings to me, but I still love the albums. Nirvana not so much, any Nirvana die hard just needs to listen to Cheap Trick, an actually good band, to see it done right and without pretension and edginess.

this is your brain on Zig Forums

Better than your brain on Nirvana

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>joji reference
how embarrassing

Who? I googled "guy with gun in mouth"

The fuck has mumble shit to do with this? Lots of great alt-rock bands like The Replacements and the Manics kept the trad rock'n'roll attitude, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Also, I do like Cheap Trick, they had a massive tone that was pretty ahead of their time. Your assumptions in this thread have been consistently wrong.

nice save. regardless, fuck off to pol

I forgot why I still come here. Thank you for reminding me based nigger

>Your assumptions in this thread have been consistently wrong.
So have yours. I like a lot of music that is likened to Nirvana, basically all of their peers, simply not Nirvana because they sucked and romanticism is the only reason they are revered. A completely worthless band.

just because nirvana smiley shirts are sold at kmart and post malone covers their songs does not discredit their achievements. i assume youre talking about the romanticism attached to the young rockstar type who tragically takes his own life at the height of fame. i too completely disagree with this romanticism, kurt died because he was a junky, like countless before him. do yourself a favour and listen to nirvana with an open mind and without pretensions. youre missing out on a truly great band. do your research

>do yourself a favour and listen to nirvana with an open mind and without pretensions. youre missing out on a truly great band. do your research
I have, it is how I've come to my conclusion of them. Nirvana is an edgy, revered, rock band considered apparently to be one of the greatest of all times. Like most edgy rock kids in their teens when I was that person, I listened to everything they put out in an attempt to get into them. It is all trite shit to me.

ok maybe you just dont like them, fair enough you gave them a shot. there were far more "edgy" bands of that era. nirvana had a good sense of humour, im sure they didnt take themselves as seriously as youd think. in fact kurt was very critical of himself and very self conscious. he often insulted his guitar playing

Nirvana was a pop band with guitars. That's why they signed to a major label to sell music to squares

I'm genuinely tired of hearing about this fucking band. There are so many great and underappreciated bands from the 90s, but we have to make room for 20 fucking threads about Kuck Blowbrains in the catalogue at once. Fuck off. Nirvana, Beatles, and Billie Eilish ought to be banned from this goddamn board.

I don't get why they're so popular with younger people today. With people who grew up closet to the time, I get it, but not now.

>most popular musicians are discussed the most
truly a mystery. start your own threads and discussions, nobodys stopping you
they fantasise about the manufactured image, rarely the actual music. be a shame if zoomies broadened their horizons for once

Biggest meme is Nirvana being the last huge Rock band. Guns n Roses sold more at the same time. Nirvana was a corporate push. The entire grunge movement was fake as fuck, just like the late 80s glam bands, except Winger. How can the biggest band in the world sell less than GNR in the same period? lmao. The media was pushing for depressing onions rock.

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>The entire grunge movement was fake as fuck ... The media was pushing for depressing onions rock
There's a documentary about this topic called Hype! (1996). Check it out.

>kurt was necessary to be the voice that finally said fuck guns n roses
Now you can listen to Nirvana and GnR back to back on your local classic rock station ;)

seconding this recommendation. grunge was a marketing and media spawned term
yes i see the irony user

>The entire grunge movement was fake as fuck, just like the late 80s glam bands, except Winger.
Nah the glam thing was an organic scene, actually multiple organic scenes across the country but the most important one being the LA Sunset Strip scene. It got popular, musicians flocked to it. Grunge was a bizarre thing in that nobody knew about it before it was on MTV, it was literally seeked out and pushed by the media in an attempt to cash in on a new trend rather than noticing something happening and capitalizing on what was already capitalizing. They forced their own meme with grunge.

Is this the designated Albini thread ?

Is that a pasta shape?

Based

yes desu

>2020
>still believing this horseshit

Still seething over a guy that died in 1994. Dude, get a fucking life.

Who knew the cure for depression was being one of the biggest celebrities on the planet? Have doctors started to prescribe this yet?

Total lack of talent.
Cringe ...

Yet appetite for destruction is better than anything this whiny junkie ever made :)

so much misrepresentation in here. you guys all act like you know his true thoughts and intentions as if you knew him personally. you're no better than the journalist he hated so much

Nirvana is okay as far as classic rock goes but I prefer Lynyrd Skynyrd.