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Gonna try to make a pastebin of some sort for next Saturday's thread. Who are your biggest influences when it comes to your music? Are most of them in or outside of hip-hop? How do you incorporate their sound and style within your work while still staying "you"? Also make sure to join the sever if you want to discuss anything during the week: discord.gg/pcu8Vwk
90s hip-hop is not good. Die Lit has better production than this.
>Has anyone ever NEETed for a while to work on music before? How do you stay focused. I've been a NEET for three years and it hasn't helped me at all. But I imagine you'll be living alone and not with any family or anything. Solitude and free time would probably help a lot.
Matthew Thomas
>90s hip-hop is not good. Die Lit has better production than this. you have to be eighteen to use this site
Matthew Walker
im 21 baby
Nolan Sullivan
WHEN I SAY HIP YOU SAY HOP
Evan Smith
hip?
Matthew Butler
>90s hip-hop is not good. Die Lit has better production than this. Being le boomer suxs zoomer isn't cool anymore. But i don't expect you to give any actual reasons it's better.
Brody Roberts
I'm not trying to be cool I'm trying to be genuine. Fuck old people. Okay, maybe that was a bit hyperbolic but I generally cannot vibe with the boom bap sound. Some 90s stuff holds up okay but a generous amount of it has aged terribly. I would put Public Enemy in the "aged terribly" category, what I've heard from them has been unlistenable. Outkast, some 2Pac, ATCQ, Mobb Deep IIRC are alright but I still don't listen to any of them much if at all. Honestly the only boom bap rapper and boom bap production I can generally enjoy is MF DOOM. And Tyler and Kanye if they count. Earl is good sometimes like on IDLSIDGO or srs but his more traditional boom bap stuff is not so good.
Asher Bailey
hop.
Lincoln Bennett
i wonder what your opinions on die lit are gonna be in a decade once it trap dies then
Lucas Gutierrez
Should I pursue this in the meantime? My true goal is to make some Pop shit, but obvs trap/hip hop shit might be a good starter/way of money. People get a lot for making beats/loops/etc...
David Thompson
HOORAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Jaxson Miller
??????? HIP ???????/ HOP ???????
what is it
Oliver Gray
Hip Hop in classical form is like watching and even listening to a drug addict smoking crack.
In that previous tense, its like you're witnessing the effect and outburst of no cause of the degree of which it even stands.
How animals understand animals
How MC's in rap game understand MC's.
THE RAP CODE ONCE YOU IN YOU NEVER OUT
muwahhahahha
-Jbenitex aka Jorman God
Jose Ward
No you idiot you don't say hip, you wait for him to say hip.
Jose Roberts
This sounds more like you just don't like them than an actual good reason they're dated or Die Lit is better produced than FOABP. Public Enemy are a genuine outlier in terms of classic Hip Hop. I can't say there's anything that quite sounds like them. And i can understand the hate they can get just from their sound alone. But in my opinion. It still ranks as the best sounding and most original Hip Hop. I still don't see people sample bend as creatively as PE did in their prime.
Xavier Davis
So basically you have only listened to a minimal amount of groups/artists
Jaxon Gutierrez
I don't know. I hardly consider it "trap" now though. Pi'erre's beats have something different to them but I can't figure out what it is. Once trap eventually dies (in 3 years based on my estimation) Pi'erre will be fine. I wasn't there in the 90s so I can't make a comparison but for the most part it seems like trap has been aging badly in real time since like 2014. The standouts are already obvious. Like, who's still listening to ASTROWORLD?
>So basically you have only listened to a minimal amount of groups/artists Yeah lol.
I don't want to. I really think I just don't generally vibe with 90s stuff. I tried to force myself to listen to Wu-Tang when I was younger and it was alright but I didn't like it that much and pretending to like it was driving me insane. I also tried listening to those artists I mentioned of course. It's overall been really difficult trying to figure out what sound and styles I genuinely like since it seems not to be boom-bap or trap.
No. I would like to make pop shit too but I also really want to make hip-hop. You should not make yourself make something you're not interested in. Selling beats isn't that easy anyway.
Thomas Smith
i got a question for the people in this thread
Why do YOU think you have what it takes to be a thriving musician? What separates you from the others? And I don't mean that as a cynical, rhetorical put-down, I mean it in a genuine question about artistic merit
Robert Perez
Trap kids are too caught up in what they like, the reason why most of the genre sounds like shit. It turns into a circlejerk. Which is sadly how Boom Bap died out. Just know there's more to 90's than Wu-Tang and those established canons. And more to Hip Hop than just the 90's in general.
Jonathan Howard
I mean I have an interest in hip-hop stuff cause I listen to it a lot, but not in terms of production. Mostly because a lot of it seems unintuitive and what I want I guess.
Charles Gomez
>hy do YOU think you have what it takes to be a thriving musician? I don't lol. I no have nothing absolutely nothing to offer and it eats away at me constantly. Not a unique sound or anything really.
>Trap kids are too caught up in what they like, the reason why most of the genre sounds like shit. It turns into a circlejerk. Which is sadly how Boom Bap died out. Could you elaborate? Should I not be trying to figure out what style I like and want to make?
>Mostly because a lot of it seems unintuitive and what I want I guess. What is it that you do find intuitive? What do you want? I wonder if we have similar taste. I've really been into pop too more than hip-hop lately but making even basic pop has been difficult for me to figure out.
Mason Taylor
Hip hop is fundamentally built around listening to a shit ton of music. Maybe you can excuse yourself if your work is more pop. But even professional and mainstream trap producer make the effort to expand.
Luis Taylor
>youtube.com/watch?v=rJOJ-K8m3P4 >youtube.com/watch?v=fHLZ9zvz08A I definitely prefer the Liquid Swords one between these two but I'm still not really sure if I'd listen to it casually. The drums are great. I've been trying to get a bounce like that but I'm not sure what the trick is. I've moved them off grid. I've used the swing knob. Etc. But I can never get it to work and I've heard (what I think are) completely quantized songs with a bounce to them. >youtube.com/watch?v=MDAUy_vfOeo >youtube.com/watch?v=j06LdbG4anQ >youtube.com/watch?v=pqc410p9Pqs These are functionally trap songs. I've noticed that in some older Kanye songs too. There are some 90s and boom bap songs that have all the defining characteristics of trap (2 step hihat patterns, simple or pluck-y melodies, 808s, etc) but sound completely different. Dangerous comes to mind for example. Common sense tells me that what makes them sound so different are the samples but I would really not like to believe that.
Some of these songs you linked really don't sound bad I'm just super picky about the shit I listen to. Like I try not to listen to any hood nigga shit. Unless I really like it I guess. I used to be pretty into Schoolboy Q and YG but they lost me with their recent stuff. I like the first Clipse album a lot. Idk.
>But even professional and mainstream trap producer make the effort to expand. Expand what? My taste? I don't understand that as an answer to my question, why shouldn't I be trying to figure out a style?
Camden Cook
>why shouldn't I be trying to figure out a style? I never implied the contrary. And i'm saying you should.
Brody Bailey
>Expand what? My taste? Yes.
John Turner
My taste in hip-hop? I'm sorry I should've been more specific the first time.
Oh. What did >Trap kids are too caught up in what they like, the reason why most of the genre sounds like shit. It turns into a circlejerk. Which is sadly how Boom Bap died out. mean then?
Jayden Evans
>Some of these songs you linked really don't sound bad I'm just super picky about the shit I listen to. I'm just saying don't dismiss the whole era because this is when everyone strived to be unique to differentiate themselves. There's just a lot of different styles out there.
