Oct13th 1863 - First exhumation of both Schubert and Beethoven in order to better preserve the body by placing it in a metal casket within a bricked-in vault. Gerhard Breuning (who as a 13 year old boy had known Beethoven) was present, and noted the compact thickness of Beethoven's skull in comparison to the 'almost feminine thinness' of Schubert's
Caleb Ramirez
wtf I love schubert now
Kayden Gray
As we needed any furtherproof of Beethoven being a BLACK Bvll, meanwhile Schubert was a white sissy.
Julian Williams
the other thread didn't reach the limit yet, but fuck Alam Deutscher's ears with atonality.
Oliver Nelson
so what you're saying is schubert was a qt femboy twink?
Shostakovich, Stravinsky, Berlioz, Saint Saens, Massenet, opera/granny stuff, Xenakis, Stockhausen, Varese get shilled way too much
Levi James
Saint Saens cello concerto is epic
Adam Jenkins
Saint-Saëns shouldn't be in that list
David Cooper
neither should any of the others but what can you do?
Alexander Bell
Call out these buffoons of course
Ryan Nguyen
Indeed, I may be harsh on Saint Saens, I actually like him but I'm fuckin sick of the Swan, it's one of those pieces that are everywhere like Clair De Lune or Lacrimosa but unlike those two it's not too great
he's not wrong Brahms was the last composer who managed to write interesting music without resorting to gimmicks like banging distantly related clusterfuck extended chords a la Wagner
Cameron Rodriguez
>It is impossible to communicate with Schumann. The man is hopeless; he doesn't talk at all. - Wagner >Wagner is impossible... he talks without ever stopping. One can't just talk all the time. - Schumann
Christian Taylor
real quotes?
Caleb Murphy
>Haydn CHAD >Mozart CHAD >Beethoven CHAD
>Schubert incel >Chopin incel >Schumann incel
>Liszt CHAD >Wagner CHAD >Brahms CHAD
Logan Butler
Actually beethoven was the only real incel and this is why he was the best
Caleb Richardson
>>Schumann >incel eight kids brah, eight kids
Luke Perez
wasn't he a celebrated composer even in his lifetime?
Alexander Roberts
yeah and he never married or even got an STD like schubert
Aiden Reed
Yes >Hanslick, who had dealings with them both in the 1840s and was quite supportive of Wagner at that time, wrote an amusing memoir on how they regarded each other. He once asked Schumann whether he had much to do with Wagner, to which Schumann replied: “For me, Wagner is impossible; there’s no doubt that he’s an intelligent person, but he never stops talking. You can’t talk all the time.” On the following day Hanslick met Wagner and asked what he thought of Schumann. “On a superficial level we’re on excellent terms” said Wagner, “but you can’t converse with Schumann: he’s an impossible person, he never says anything.” wagnerqld.com.au/wagner-schumann-and-the-other-tristan/ The whole article is fascinating to be honest
Grayson Garcia
exactly, it's a supremely incel thing to fuck a prostitute in the absence of a gf and die of the std she gave you
Jeremiah Thomas
sounds like a chad who wants to spend more time on music, less time wining and dining bitches
Ayden Long
true, but schubert is also great like beethoven so this checks out
Nathaniel Collins
Liszt was such a fucking show off
Brody Hernandez
>The work was dedicated to Karoline Esterházy von Galánta, the daughter of his one time patron, the Duke of Esterházy, and bears an opus number assigned by the composer himself. Schubert was (unrequited) in love with Karoline, he composed the fantasia in such a way, that their hands would touch from time to time...
Zachary Anderson
Beethoven: “Only with the deepest regret am I forced to perceive that the purest, most innocent feelings can often be misconstrued.”
