>If i cry and scream loud enough people will begin to think like i think.
In retrospect it shouldn't be any surprise the worst elements of Tumblr attached themselves like vile, bloated remora to Steven Universe is it?
If i cry and scream loud enough people will begin to think like i think
Jason Gonzalez
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Logan Ward
But that never worked, Steven always had to actually convince people to see it his way.
At least until his mind control started kicking in.
Isaiah Myers
Steven actually had to understand how the other person thought to reach them.
Cameron Green
Not really, most of the humans changed on their own and Steven was just there to cause trouble for the plot. The CGs worshipped him for being nuRose & Peridot only changed because she stuck in a lose-lose situation but had an easier out on Earth. Lapis is a shit all around and sticks around for her own gratification and all the Gems/Diamonds afterward follow Steven because he's their new Pink Diamond, not because of any merit/goodness to his words.
Steven is the epitome of the Tumblr/DeviantArt self-insert that gets everything they want in the end because they were born special and everyone either "adores" him or their villians that hate him a la Navy & Aquamarine. Sure their comical but its a common fault in slashfiction and Sugar's admitted SU aas brain dead escapist fantasy where the only thing that matters was Steven. She even tried to laugh it off and play stupid about it in SU:Future with the Shep ep.
Tyler Anderson
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Ian Price
>But that never worked, Steven always had to actually convince people to see it his way.
The diamonds literally only made changes to their regime because of nepotism and the circumstances of Steven's birth. If Steven wasn't literally pink diamond he would have convinced none of the actual big bads. It's kind of funny that people like to think of Steven as some pacifist underdog when he is an extraterrestrial trust fund baby.
Nathaniel Baker
and he's fat which is also terrible
Christopher James
But he never convinved anyone with crying.
Only with what he was, an hybrid that's also his mother.
He was skinny enough in SUF
Jaxson Bennett
Bad writing is still bad writing user
Mason Parker
You don't need good writing to make a popular cartoon show.
Angel Wright
The concept of bad is in the eyes of the beholder.
Gavin Lee
I can suck my own dick.
Hunter Smith
He did when he was crying to the Diamonds and even a few times with the humans. Just like a crying child, they were guilted into doing what Steven wanted to stop his tantrum. The diamonds saw him crying and wanted to placate him bevayse every time he cries, they're reminded of Rose crying/dying and they'll go with whatever Steven says to keep him in their life so he doesn't An Hero like PD.
Aiden Garcia
No you can’t
Jordan Stewart
>He did when he was crying to the Diamonds and even a few times with the humans. Just like a crying child, they were guilted into doing what Steven wanted to stop his tantrum. The diamonds saw him crying and wanted to placate him bevayse every time he cries, they're reminded of Rose crying/dying and they'll go with whatever Steven says to keep him in their life so he doesn't An Hero like PD.
Crying with Blue and Yellow didn't work that way. Blue Diamond made everyone cry and so Steven. But it were Steven's mental abilities that resolved it.
And with humans never worked. Smiley didn't forgave Steven breaking his stuff because he was a child, he literally did child exploitation with him.
Austin Ortiz
>people actually thinking getting upset super easily and crying over every little thing = empathy and kindness
these are the same people who praised steven for being 'not like other boys' and 'a good role model'
even the adult characters, and even the gems, and even the allmighty godly rulers first reponse to emotion is to cry, it almost feels like the writers just dont have any other way of delivering emotion
Easton Cook
>He was skinny enough in SUF
yeah, fat kids often grow into their body and just end up being proportional n maybe a little chubby adults
Tyler Ross
prove it
Cameron Jenkins
Boys are always supposed to be the strong ones and not allowed to cry.
Ans Steven cried only when the situation was really bad or when he had to feel empathy for a gem
Kevin Nelson
No such thing as a skinny Steven. Either he’s chubby, or swole. He’s big in some way. But never thin
Evan Hill
what an awful show. what a fucking shame. how miserable, how fucking stupid. it had so much potential up until season 4 when everything started falling into shit. the movie was a steaming dookie pile that was doused in gasoline and set alight, and the post movie epilogue season or whatever on gods green earth that even was was a despicable, pathetic excuse for palatable entertainment.
Christian Smith
>Sugar's admitted SU aas brain dead escapist fantasy
thats what happens when you let a 2000s deviantart fangirl run a show
in a way i kinda respect sugar for that. if she wasnt in the big girl industry, she'd still be writing fanfiction and going "ohamgeee MAH YAOIZ XDDD", and theres something just a little charming about it. she just bullshitted her way to the top somehow, both thru having shit handed to her and thru winging it till ya make it, and here she is, the second most successful Zig Forums personality who would still consider making their pfp on twitter their original sonic fan oc
Aiden Howard
he cried too much
boys arent supposed to be soft, but ultimately they are, because theyre still humans and theyre still kids. but crying over every little thing very rarely means being a kind person. sure it could mean "i just, like, feel too much maaaan i feel everyones pain around me also my mom called me an indigo kid when i was younger and now i have a complex"... but it could also just mean overemotionallity in general, even if youve got no actual empathy towards other people
most of the time when steven tried to help others and cried because he couldnt, it came off as him just crying because he didnt get to do what he wanted to do, not because he feels THEIR pain
Robert Ortiz
honestly she is quite a talented individual. she was raised in an incredibly creative-nurturing environment where she was encouraged to be ultra-artistic and foster ingenuity. like it or not she has produced lots of compelling works and is pretty masterful in animation. many people still praise the SU pilot as one of the best of the decade. here this is her senior thesis animation, its clear to see how she got so far in the industry with her talent
youtube.com
Connor Myers
>like it or not she has produced lots of compelling works and is pretty masterful in animation.
There has not been any portion of Steven Universe that i would even consider good by animation standards. Hell I'd say it's only satisfactory at best.
Nathan Roberts
mightve been out of her hands. the pilot that she did animate herself is quite good though. and so is the video i linked
Colton Thompson
Which is often 80% of the time since Sugar thinks crying = empathy+insta-forgiveness. The remaining 20% Steven escalated into violence but oy through fusion or siccing the Crystal Gems on them. I know Sugar claims that it was about Steven being passive & muh shield, but hes the stereotype of a bad pacifist. The pacifist who will preach non-violence and barely fight his battles because they have others who commit violence for them.
Its also ironic because Sugar's writing on AT was the Antithesis of SU. Sugar campaigned for AT not to revolve around Finn & Jake along with proving that Finn didn't deserve happiness/wins on virtue of being an MC. She also wrote him as a the stoic badass she tries to "subvert" with Steven. Every time Sugar had Finn show emotion, her stories had him realize that his emotions didn't matter because he needed to bottle/bury them so he could be a tool for others along with him becoming a passive sadsack. Steven had this at first but then everyone showers him with affection tfor the bare minimum of crying & singing that got Finn nowhere but heartbreak.
As much as I dislike Sugar's writing, its more likely shes just an inept hypocrite that let Steven be babied because he's an insert of her little brother, showing how nepotistic Sugar truly is. Youd think she'd learn and improve on her previous writing habits but instead she keeps regressing back into her infantile Tumblr/LiveJournal persona.
Wyatt Murphy
I’m pretty sure she made Flame Princess for Finn to have a gf. Granted it was a bit bumpy at first but it was pretty cute. Shame about that Ice King ep
Christian Lewis
Boys and so males needs to learn that there is nothing wrong with being soft.
>most of the time when steven tried to help others and cried because he couldnt, it came off as him just crying because he didnt get to do what he wanted to do, not because he feels THEIR pain
It can be both. Think at centipede, he couldn't help her and so
he cried because he understood both that he couldn't help her and her pain in that situation.
Dylan Wright
and that, is a result of
> she was raised in an incredibly creative-nurturing environment where she was encouraged to be ultra-artistic and foster ingenuity
sugar is one of em art hippies that wants to just sit around and doodle with her friends and make fun art, but shes just not fit to RUN a show. she does solid work when she works on one, or creates things herself/with a couple a friends, but the reason SU looks so garbage is first and foremost a result of disorganised management
Benjamin Morales
sugar isnt a modern spooky scary hateful 'sjw', shes just a genuinely soft girl. thats one of the reasons i never COULD get annoyed with her the same way i do with many other people in her kinda circles, because her opinions seem like theyre really her own, and like shes really just a 14 y/o tumblr girl in an adults body. shes constantly fighting her inner voice telling her "crying is ok uwu everything is fine lets have a hug party", and the kinda people shes working with being the kind that think a man showing any emotion whatsoever is toxic is dangerous and violent. not to mention, like every young girl, she has her edgy contrarian streak sometimes
Jose Scott
If I had time travel, one of the first things I'd do is prevent this show from ever getting past the pilot.
Aaron Walker
>Which is often 80% of the time since Sugar thinks crying = empathy+insta-forgiveness.
Crying didn't made other gems forgive Steven, and so humans. It didn't work with Bismuth or Rubies.
>The remaining 20% Steven escalated into violence but oy through fusion or siccing the Crystal Gems on them.
Not really, Lapis and Peridot were redeemed by words.
Jasper was bubbled by Steven teaming with Amethyst and Peridot but because Jasper was suffering.
All the violence was just them saving gems.
Steven eventually bacame violent by killing Jasper.
>I know Sugar claims that it was about Steven being passive & muh shield, but hes the stereotype of a bad pacifist. The pacifist who will preach non-violence and barely fight his battles because they have others who commit violence for them.
Like Batman he has redemption autism. That's a character. Sometimes morality isn't logical.