Yes as we all know, elementary schools have students do serious political debates

Yes as we all know, elementary schools have students do serious political debates.

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>elementary schools have students do serious political debates
Wait, you school didn't?

I’m rewatching the simpsons from start to end and I’m on season 17 and honestly the only real difference is that it got more formulaic, and over time started relying on pop culture more. It’s weird going back in the 90’s seasons and seeing how many random celebrity comeos they had though. And honestly I can stand to watch any episodes centered around Lisa because she’s such a preachy bitch to fault and that’s not entertaining in the slightest. The should would benifit from a time skip because the amount of episodes about 10 year old having a gf, making out with a teenager, and veering on actual sex is just weird. Like 10year old don’t do that, they should’ve made him 16 and a 8 year old that’s worrying about politic shit is just as unrealistic and dimb

I vaguely recall a 2nd or 3rd grade class where we set up a mock debate about deforestation, and split the class into two groups that were supposed to argue either side of the issue. We came to a mutual agreement in like, 5 minutes.

Deens

I have taught in elementary schools that had some serious debates, but usually only 3rd grade and above. What grade is Lisa in?

You win this time, crummy Deens.

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These are all garbage opinions and the fact that the show became overtly formulaic is literally the problem you mongoloid.

At least Lisa sort of got her comeupppance here.

You’re dumb

I would have at least some respect for zombie Simpsons if they had the balls to slowly age up the characters.
But that would require effort and would also mean the characters would start deviating from their classic designs. And all the new characters I've seen look terrible.

The difference is that in this episode it's 100% wrapped up in the Democrat vs. Republican/liberal vs. conservative paradigm. They could have written the conflict in a way where Lisa and her friend have deep ideological differences but in a way believable for 8 year olds. But instead it was "Oh no my friend is a Republican and I'm a Democrat! This is something I care a lot about even though I'm 8 years old! What do I do?" Part of the plot was even Springfield's Republican party trying to groom this girl for future political prospects.

It's like the writer had an experience where they made a friend and was shocked to learn they were Republican, so they transplanted that issue way too literally onto 2nd grade characters.

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thats what most debates is class were
very generic talking points and global issues, simplifies as all hell n childish opinions on them, and it didnt matter if ur points are good or factually correct, it was just an exercise is speaking and dialogue with an opposing idea

Yeah really. You're 8. Go play with Malibu Stacey or something.

mine did. in fifth grade i was the moderator for a debate between obama and mccain. i wrote up the questions and gave them to the kids playing the candidates so they could research what their characters would say.

>obama and mccain
>5th grade

yes, 2008 was 12 years ago.

I was 20 during the 2008 election.

>episode was written by Tim Long
Don't complain about taking the ride you paid for.

>normally I could do without Yeardley's attempts at singing, but in the beginning of the episode she's actually fairly decent
>the interaction between Lisa and Isabel isn't too bad either and the anagram thing (spot the callback to Lisa's Rival) was the only part that felt kinda forced
>the Milhouse/M&M thing dragged out longer than necessary
>Lisa the SJW starts to kick in but it's not that bad yet
>oh hell no, it's the Springfield Republican Party--in any Jean era episode, this is the point where you know to stop watching
>Chris Christie fat joke again? The first time they did it in Politically Inept wasn't funny.
>The Republican Party scenes just drag on too long and they never try to make the conflict believable
>ok so after we got that callback to Lisa's Rival, we get some callbacks to Lisa's Date With Density and Lisa's Substitute, and one teen season callback (the, ugh, bombardment guy)
>did they have to do the Chalmers name pronunciation thing twice?
>neat, the banner shed
>the ending was anticlimatic

I swear, /r/politics is more intelligent than Jean-era Simpsons trying to do political commentary.

this was one of his better efforts, not that that's saying much. when you abuse callbacks to earlier episodes, it's sort of admitting the script is trash and somehow referencing Season 1-8 episodes will make it magically not suck.

At least they get through the episode without Isabella simply being a strawman Republican they burn.

It could have been a lot worse given the premise, but it could have also been better.

It reminded me of Season 16 when he seemed to be improving some, before he "blessed" us with Moe's bar rag, Love is a Many Splintered Thing and Lisa Goes Gaga.

Sneed.

Eva Longoria did an ok job with the voice acting I guess.

If this episode is set in 2013 when it aired and Marge is 34, then how the fug could she have voted for Reagan when she was like 5 years old?

We had these debates too in school. I loved being a contraction in high school and argued for everything from deforestation to corruption.

I'll say it's a callback to LR in more ways than one.

>first off, the anagram thing in case you didn't get the point
>Lisa has no friends
>Lisa meets some new girl
>who makes Lisa feel insecure and threatened
>she asks for Bart's help
>and backs out at the last second
>Lisa and the new girl reconcile
>roll credits

Also Lisa seemed unusually pudgy in this episode like she's been eating too much Haagen-Daz.

>Nu Simpsons writers dislike Republicans
I totally would have never guessed that.