Remember when the X-Men were, y'know, heroes? And not bad guys?
Man those were the days.
Remember when the X-Men were, y'know, heroes? And not bad guys?
Ethan Fisher
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Benjamin Ross
Remember when you know, never read comics at all? X-Men were always considered evil and hunted by the government, were alwys a metaphor for minorities and treated badly by the hero community.
You have been told this enough times that you can fuck off with this pathetic casualfaggotry now
Hunter Sanchez
Yeah but they were never in the same ideology as the Brotherhood you stupid child raping idiot.
Easton Edwards
They are still heroes.
They just stopped being human-simps, and who the fuck can blame them. They're tired of our shit and want to protect their own.
Henry Hall
Remember when Cyclops was the good guy and not a tacky villain and then a cuck who shares his wife with Wolverine?
Yeah, those were the good days.
Parker Murphy
X-Men are always a reflection of where society is at with minorities and in the present day Blacks do not want equality they want supremacy.
Magneto was right.
Robert Anderson
the steady decline of "fun" to be found in the X books is what led me to drop comics cold turkey back in Jr. High
like 10 or so years later I watched a bunch of old cartoons for the nostalgia and Jistice League is what ultimately lead me to get back into comics, I'm still weary of Marvel tho
Hunter Sanders
They've always been heroes. They still are.
>Remember when a man turned superpowered children into soldiers to suit his ideals.
Camden Nelson
you absolutely brain dead mongoloid
they used to be seen as fellow good guys by all the other heroes (or most of them at least)
Gabriel Russell
>they used to be seen as fellow good guys by all the other heroes (or most of them at least)
You wanna know why the Uncanny Avengers weren't a thing until AvX? None of the supes wanted to align themselves with mutants on one team, because they'd lump them in with mutants.
Caleb James
people always talk about how the Mutants should be in their own little universe, apart from the rest of the marvel characters.
I wonder if they would be better suited in the DCverse, or would that be worse / more of the same?
Owen Martinez
which is probably why the Avengers never let Beast of the team
fuckin mouth breather
Brandon Sanders
imo i don't think their issues have anything to do with sharing a universe, I think they just keep getting shafted with dumb fuck writers.
Dominic Foster
i don't think it would work, there are already some mutants running around DC but no one cares, the X-men would just get lumped in with the rest of the Meta humans and there goes their entire identity
Luis Hill
Ok shill
Brandon Mitchell
That's right, Jay. In fact it's probable that half the people going "Mutants should be in their own universe" are doing damage control for bad writing/editing.
Kevin Roberts
This why you don't read post 80s x-men
Gabriel Russell
Fpbp
Jason Martinez
They were pretty heroic in this issue. It’s pretty obscure though, you’ve probably never heard of it.
Cameron Watson
you sound like the type of person that says "everything is political". The x-men used to make pancakes and play softball they weren't always paper thin analogs and a few well-regarded and so oft-collected storylines here and there that -ironically - casuals flock to do not an entire history make.
YOU people are the casuals. captain america punching hitler before marvel existed doesn't mean he's a political character for most of his stories (which are for the most part low takes jawnts with Falcon and D-Man) and God Loves Man Kills isn't indicative of every X-Men story or really even the brunt of their publishing which is mostly shitty space stories and alt-timelines.
>B-b-but Stan the man Lee said
a lot of shit to sell comics, as with everyone else.
Parker Perez
I'm not the guy tou're replying to and I'm certainly not gonna try and defend marv's "writers' but I am kind shocked that they never even tried it
they had the ultimate universe so what's stopping them from just doing a mutant only universe? if it's unpopular they can kill it so what's the problem?
Bentley White
low stakes*
Aiden Robinson
That time they stopped Magneto from flooding the world- and set him on the path of reform.
What a bunch of assholes.
Christian Bell
fukkin good issue
Isaiah Peterson
>Those were the days
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I couldn't resist, sorry...
Wyatt Long
Stopped the Brood from over running the universe.
Dick move
Evan Ortiz
Yeah, I love it.
Cockrum is my favorite X-Artist, too.
Xavier White
>captain america punching hitler before marvel existed doesn't mean he's a political character for most of his stories
Holy shit you have no idea what you're talking about. One of the most famous Captain America storylines involves him bringing down literally President Nixon and becoming so disgusted with the US government that he quits being Captain America and becomes Nomad.
Cap's deal has always been that he fights for America's ideals, and that often brings him into conflict with its current government or structures.
Andrew Taylor
>X-Men were always considered evil and hunted by the government
That never happened until the 1990s
>were alwys a metaphor for minorities
Not until the 1980s. I wish X-fags didn't tell new readers to start from #1 instead of from Claremont, so they'd learn this. Maybe then they'd stop demanding it always has to be about muh oppression muh minorities and nothing else ever. Even starting with Claremont you'd think they'd wonder why almost everything before Days of Future Past has nothing to do with The Metaphor at all.
>and treated badly by the hero community.
If you were actually reading this has usually been the other way around, with the X-Men being total assholes to non-mutant heroes. At first it was occasional in the 1980s and 1990s, then they became full-time trained professional assholes from the 2000s, and behaving like an army of NPCs for whoever is leading the mutants at the time.
Cameron Flores
>One of the most famous Captain America storylines involves him bringing down literally President Nixon
You may not have actually read that comic, and only read articles about it, user. It's not Literally Nixon, it's Implicitly Nixon. The villain's face is never shown, and he's only ever confirmed as a high-ranking government official.
You're right that there are a number of Captain America stories that are very political, but he's also right that there are also a large number of Captain America stories that are low-stakes superhero stories with no obvious political angle.
Lincoln Sanchez
>current government
no, its only when its a republican in the white house
>american ideals
In those comics his ideals are what ever is against the current republicans. The Cap of something as recent as Civil War would be the stances he would take now but not what they would have had him say when Obama was president.