Which show was more influential?

this, hirsch is a lynch fan boy so naturally lynch would hold contempt towards him

I preferred Gravity Falls but I will concede Adventure Time was far more influential.

What shows did Adventure Time influence?

And why do you keep making this thread?

AT invented "deepest lore" in cartoons

>AT invented "deepest lore" in cartoons
You are an unironic zoomer if you think this.

Who was the superior protagonist?

What's with all the Gravity Falls vs Adventure Time shit lately anyway? Isn't Adventure Time's contemporary Regular Show (which also overshadowed it) ?

Venture Bros comes to mind as a show that did it first but even then there are probably other shows that did it even earlier

This

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AT because it started the trend of every cartoon feeling the need to have really deep lore. Plus it's artstyle really had an effect on Western animation and still does.

I wonder if Pendleton Ward hates himself over the influence his show (which at the end wasn't even his) had on the animation industry as a whole

Teddy Ruxpin was all about gradually uncovering the history of a lost civilization that existed in the past and how its rise and fall influenced the current state of affairs. And that was a toy cartoon from 1986.

Yeah, Humphry Davy deserves better

ITT we pretend Adventure Time season 4 was the start of Adventure Time.

Popularizing lore is part of the equation, but it's not everything (previous cartoons, even non-anime influenced ones like Kids Next Door had pieces of lore scattered around). It's hard to pinpoint the exact influence of Adventure Time because this influence is felt through a lot of vectors from the humor to the storytelling beats to the simplified style that later cartoons would take inspiration from. It essentially birthed an entire subgenre of cartoons, or at least represented its prototype. Because of that, its influence is a lot more nebulous than that of Gravity Falls, which became the template for virtually all of Disney's animated programming now.

the only cartoon they influenced was Steven Universe which was an even bigger piece of crap than Adventure Time was

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Eh, I wouldn’t say that, mystery and lore wise, SU felt closer to GF desu. I guess if you count Sugar, but that’s less influence and more a person who worked on the first thing doing their own show.

Didn't most modern cartoon showrunners get their start on Adventure Time in some way (Roiland, Sugar, and wasn't Hirsch part of Adventure Time?)

>wasn't Hirsch part of Adventure Time
no. The common denominator is Flapjack (which Hirsch did work on)

Sugar wrote all those leepest dore episodes in AT... otherwise it was a status quo character of the day cartoon which had the occasional 2-3 episode "arc"

Exactly, so it’s not influencing if it’s the same person because, otherwise it’s just doing more of what you do.

Genuine question, what current shows are heavily influenced by AT/GF, and why? I honestly don’t really see it.

Amphibia and Owl House seems to be taking cues tone wise, style wise, story beats wise

Is gravity falls worth it guys. I did a few episodes and there didnt seem to be nothing special.
People tell me it's worth it to stick it out though

Pretty solid series

SvTFOE (season 1-2 + the movie) was.

>b-b-but GF and AT came first!
"No!"

Not only was SvTFOE planned way before those two turds, but both of them rushed into the kitchen, tossed all of the ingredients onto the table, but couldn't figure out how to bake the cake. Lets take a closer look...

>Adventure Time
It wasn't a lore cartoon at the beginning. It was more about exploring its world, fighting an incompetent villain, and hints of a looming threat, pretty much the same as any 80s half hour toy commercial. The looming threat (The Lich [redacted]) was beaten with risible ease. Heavy amounts of continuity resetting.

>Gravity Falls
It planted the seed for the lore in the first episode, but quickly got bogged down by shipping shit and after the big reveal Alex "The Manlet" Hirsch ran out of ideas and pulled the ripcord.

>SvTFOE
It took all these elements and created an enjoyable and fun cartoon that had world exploration, character building, a looming threat, an incompetent villain to beat on, lore, shipping kept to a minimum but enough to captivate the audience, and at least two big reveals per season.

After the movie, it certainly lost its way since it was never intended to go that far, but the first two seasons were a masterpiece in cartooning while Adventure Time was full zombie resorting to woke twitter tricks like last minute lesbians to stay relevant and the Manlet was shopping for a new job.

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>Star vs
>A masterpiece
Kek, go back to spamming cuck memes, it’s all the show is good for

@119540196
cope

Owl House without a doubt considering Dana is dating Hirsch.

adventure time/regular show defined the CN new generation , Gravity falls the disney one.

Adventure time is more influential overall but GF open the market for lore kind content