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I've been reading the book ""Crime and Punishment"" and I am astonished by the fact of how simple Russian girls used to be. If you were successful, you could just ask for her hand in marriage and only your persona would matter. Why has the west gone downhill to such as extent where being a roastie is the norm rather than exception?

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I can safely say that North Indian girls are still quite trad and would fit the description of avg wymn from the book. I can really just meet a qt, go to her family, and her for marriage and she would take care of me and my kids for life.

shut the fuck up poojeet

You are the people getting cucked by roasties not me dumb frog

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No lol, what gender is the author of the book? it's just projection, tarkovsky was very guilty of this for example.

I highly doubt it matters you mutt since everyone didn't have indoor plumbing back then and recently the western world was on the brink of civil war because of toilet paper.

Russian women were never 'simple' They always needed you to provide them with extensive amounts of attention, money and other resources. Nothing has changed to this day. Russian women have the highest STDs rates in Europe(maybe in the world as well, but not sure) and one of the highest divorce rates in the world.
Village girls are even worse. If a city slut is just your simple plain slut that will cheat on you, drain you off your money and then run off, a village girl will get you into trouble by making you fight with some bloke who looked at her funny or by messing with a bunch of muslims who groped her in a club (she went there without you consent, because she's a Free Russian Woman).
Also, don't read Russian literature expecting it do be a perfect source material of what Russian people used to be like.

>Also, don't read Russian literature expecting it do be a perfect source material of what Russian people used to be like.
But Russian literature is interesting though.

Since when is Russia "west"?

Hmmm Fyodor Dostoesky mentions several times how successful people asked for hand in marriage (45 yo govt officers asks for Raskolnivo's 20 yo sister) and got married. Same with Sonia
Is that all exacerated?

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I doubt this hasn't been the norm in the west too.

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yes, it absolutely is.

It was the same all around the world. Women haven't change since then. If a woman sees a successful mate, who can provide to her, she'll be with him. Women date upwards, never downwards. It's a fact.
Don't know if you heard the latest twitch drama shite(I only found out about it through my YT recommendations feed and thought it was rather interesting), but there's an American twitch streamer called Katerino, who was cheating on 4 guys simultaneously. She was publicly 'dating' Carson (some other american streamer who has 2-3mil subs on YT) and then she cheated on him with another bloke who has 7 or 8mil subs. She's the perfect example of what Russian women used to be like and are like right now. Or how literally any other women are on this planet.

>crime and punishment by fyodor commieovsky tale of an incel raskolnikov creating a mini incel riseup and killing two womyn
>not reading resurrection by thad tolstoy telling the story of the chad nehludov oneshotting the kids into katyusha cunty hole

Hmm seems like shit sucks, bro.

What book of Tolstoy are you talking about? I will give it a read. I was going to read 4 brothers of Karamazon. Also, I am pretty certain I can relate more to the incel's mindset

read karamazov brothers, then tell me russian women are "simple"
read quitely the don flows, then tell me women are not whores

women were all whores throughout history, they cause nothing but misery, war and suffering

Before this thread gets deleted because I said too much about Russian women, have any of you read 'Oblomov' by Ivan Goncharov? If you haven't give it a go.

>women were all whores throughout history, they cause nothing but misery, war and suffering
Absolutely this, king.

I will read it.

Thanks user, will do next.

That is next on my read list.

Most wars are started by men? If not all of them

Wars are fought over ideologies and resources. Women are a resource same as oil, territory, etc.

Good answer, but wars over ideology is only an old world thing.

Genghis khan only began his tyrannical rule because his wife got kidnapped

How is that women's fault? If anything that's men thinking with their cocks

It's not their 'fault' per se, but they are still the or one of the causes of wars.

Trojan war started because a roastie just couldn't be faithful

Aren't the main female characters in war and peace basically perfect?
Natasha had a bad moment yes but she is a fairy still
And Mary is actually an angel

There is a reason why Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky thought Russia was fortunate to be 30 years behind Europe

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I've not read War and Peace so can't say yet. Crime and Punishment do signify that becoming whore to provide for the family was also common among the poor class back in the days

Maybe Menelaus mistreated her

We're much more than 30 years behind Europe. And yes, being not as developed and progressive has its advantages and disadvantages.
For instance, we don't have much LGBTQHFQ++++ stuff, people are still xenophobic towards one another (apart from women, but I'm pretty sure most women in the world are coalburners), we're still patriotic (despite pootin being a commie tard in disguise) and we don't hate ourselves.
On the other hand, we're poor, our society is riddled with nepotism, our government doesn't really care about human rights (not all of them, but the majority's busy with filling their pockets with our money), bureaucracy and corruption are rampant, etc.

>Girls used to be ALL prostitutes, now the degenerate roasties demand shit like being attracted to you or liking your personality, I just want to pay to have a fuck hole
This is the gist of your thought

You are now trying to justify extramarital affairs. She certainly could have handled it better than running away with her lover in the night?

Maybe, I don't know what society looked like in bronze age Greece. Though the Greeks were probably just looking for an excuse to invade anyway

I still don't understand this thing. Isn't the whole point of one's life to get better resources and climb the hierarchial ladder of the society which could justify the survival of the fittest given our circumstances. Or would you justify wymn having their fun phase and fuck as many as they can before settling down with a beta orbiter because no decently educated man of means would settle down with such a roastie?