Why were Germans so mad at the Treaty of Versailles? In fact they were treated rather lightly, they only lost lands Germans were a minority in or had no historical rights to and the reparations they had to pay were actually quite low as compared to the harm they had inflicted upon other nations and it was still largely forgiven after a few years.
They actually imposed much harsher peace terms on France in 1871 after the war they were to blame for.
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because until the defeat, germs were told they were winning
that's what every government tells its people
>They actually imposed much harsher peace terms on France in 1871 after the war they were to blame for.
this isn't true.
France after 1870/71 lost one border provice, Alsace-Lorraine, which was over 80% German-speaking. There were war indemnities, that was it. No loss of colonies, no restrictions of the army, nothing.
Germany after WW1 lost territories on all its borders, lost all its colonies, got its most industrious region occupied, and was forced to reduce its military to the point that it was unable to defend itself at all.
This, we were to nice to fr*goids, even though they fought and invaded almost every single european country at the time.
>There were war indemnities, that was it
They weren't really war 'indemnities' it was just outright theft, the amount of money Germany demanded from France was completely unproportional to war costs, especially that Germany was to blame for the war.
>No loss of colonies, no restrictions of the army, nothing.
Because France wasn't the main warmonger.
> lost territories on all its borders, lost all its colonies,
Where Germans were a minority.
>and was forced to reduce its military to the point that it was unable to defend itself at all.
no one was going to attack Germany, it's Germany that either provoked or started all wars in Europe since 1815.
>Because France wasn't the main warmonger
Are you actually retarded? Also Germany wasn't the main warmonger in ww1
>They weren't really war 'indemnities' it was just outright theft, the amount of money Germany demanded from France was completely unproportional to war costs, especially that Germany was to blame for the war.
Correct me if I'm wrong, france was the one that declared war on Germany on unification and in ww2. How they can be considered "innocent" in all of those?
>Are you actually retarded?
en.wikipedia.org
> Also Germany wasn't the main warmonger in ww1
That's what they teach in German schools?
>They weren't really war 'indemnities' it was just outright theft
that's your biased opinion
>especially that Germany was to blame for the war.
>Because France wasn't the main warmonger.
this is factually wrong, France declared war on Prussia in 1870.
>Where Germans were a minority.
just like French were a minority in Alsace-Lorraine.
>it's Germany that either provoked or started all wars in Europe since 1815.
factually wrong, Germany didn't even exist until 1871, and didn't participate in wars such as the Sardinian War, the Crimean War, the Russo-Turkish Wars of the 19th century, etc.
but you're just a dishonest faggot assblasted at Germany anyway so I'm gonna leave it at that, bye
>Correct me if I'm wrong,
You're wrong
>just like French were a minority in Alsace-Lorraine.
And French people didn't go full nazi because of the lost war and the peace treaty.
Congrats, your answer shows why your people unclog toilets in UK
>factually wrong, Germany didn't even exist until 1871, and didn't participate in wars such as the Sardinian War, the Crimean War, the Russo-Turkish Wars of the 19th century, etc.
should have said 'major wars' and now it's true
They were after Russia was kicked out the door. The bankers sold Germany out.
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So it's our fault for the french chimping?
France in 1870 was provoked by the Ems Dispatch and Germany was the actual warmonger.
Mentioning WW2 when Germans already invaded Czechoslovakia and then Poland is cringey.
They need to project their failure into someone, nothing new
If we would take "provocations" into account im pretty sure the world would've been turned into a wasteland in the cold War. That doesn't justify a war and it doesn't make the prussians the bad guys.
Cope
You don't need to declare war to be an aggressor. Sending your army to occupy the other country is an act of war in itself.
Your fault was not respecting the Congress of Vienna's decisions
>If we would take "provocations" into account im pretty sure the world would've been turned into a wasteland in the cold War
And the fault would lie with the instigator
After every world war Germans were treated way easier than they deserved yet they still protested and voiced grievances.
So Czechoslovakia are the aggressor for not giving us back the parts were germans live?
What did Czech German-speaking population have to do with Germany? It's not like they ever lived there.
Having fifth column in another country does not entitle you to piece of that country, Adolf. Not you, not Russians.
Anyway, you would have to be clinically insane to try and paint WW2 as anything else than unjustified german aggression.
What did the spanish throne have to do with France?
Germany violated the decisions made in Vienna in 1815 (signed by Prussia) and the balance of power France was a rightful defender of.
Czechia was a country with the same borders since the medieval era, except a big chunk was stolen by Prussia in 18th century (Silesia+Kladsko).
>Germany didn't even exist until 1871,
based, I will screencap it and post every time when I see Germans claiming that their history or culture is old
>They weren't really war 'indemnities' it was just outright theft, the amount of money Germany demanded from France was completely unproportional to war costs, especially that Germany was to blame for the war.
1. France declared war first and thought they easily wipe the floor.
2. Prussia calculated how much Napolean made them pay per person and handed France the exact same bill
That treaty is actually special cause it marked the first time a peace treaty was drafted not only in French (the dominant diplomatic language at the time) but also in english ushering in an age of english dominance and French decline on the world stage