Do you support Taiwanese independence?

Do you support Taiwanese independence?

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I support the rightful Republic of China regaining control of mainland china from dirty communist rebels.

Do you think we will see USA go to war with China over Taiwan?

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I support the rightful People's Republic of China regaining control of Chinese Taipei from dirty capitalist counterrevolutionaries.

>Finnish civil war over Taiwan
an unexpected turn of events

i don't give a fuck
are u really interested in that shit?
what "Taiwanese independence" gonna give you?
the only reason u asking this is that u are Taiwanese gook
posting from usa and be like MUH HOMELAND is oppressed

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sure, why not. as long as i don't have to do any fighting.

Why not? It has as many reasons to be independent as korea from japan or croatia from serbia

I was genuinely curious about what others thought regarding the topic, Ivan.

As a United Statesian I suppose I do support Taiwan's independence. It may all be a lie but the USA is all about sovereignty.

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Who the fuck cares about whether or not you support their independence.

What matters is if America has the ability to protect it's interests. That's it really.

then why is it unconstitutional to secede from the USA?

You're just proving the HK pinky's point that our support for Taiwan is all about geopolitics. Taiwan can't even agree on being Taiwan and not the ROC. Let Taiwan do what it wants and not what would be most convenient to our own interests.

TAIPEI: Taiwan wants dialogue with China but cannot accept its proposal for "one country, two systems", President Tsai Ing-wen said on Wednesday (May 20), calling for both sides to find a way to coexist.

In a speech after being sworn in for her second and final term in office, Tsai said relations between Taiwan and China had reached an historical turning point.

"Both sides have a duty to find a way to coexist over the long term and prevent the intensification of antagonism and differences," she said.

Tsai and her Democratic Progressive Party won January's presidential and parliamentary elections by a landslide, vowing to stand up to China, which claims Taiwan as its own and says it would be brought under Beijing's control by force if needed.

"Here, I want to reiterate the words 'peace, parity, democracy, and dialogue'. We will not accept the Beijing authorities' use of 'one country, two systems' to downgrade Taiwan and undermine the cross-strait status quo. We stand fast by this principle," Tsai said.

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Doesn't matter, not my problem.

Why is the flag backwards
It isn't unconstitutional technically, we just don't recognize the rule of southern slaveowners

usa supports any independence of small, non existing cunts to cause some troubles to their geopolitical opponents
this redpill's one the house

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As a resident of a former confederate state, beats me.

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yes

>the court further held that the Constitution did not permit states to unilaterally secede from the United States

no lol
maybe the nationalists should have won the war

Finland covering all bases

China at the time had no constitution but the revolution and force of arms

No, I support One Republic of China.

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YEAH SUPPORT EM

Overturned in 1877.

>The Court wrote regarding acts establishing an independent government that "The validity of its acts, both against the parent state and the citizens or subjects thereof, depends entirely upon its ultimate success; if it fail to establish itself permanently, all such acts perish with it; if it succeed and become recognized, its acts from the commencement of its existence are upheld as those of an independent nation."

This is why we now retroactively recognize the Philippines' independence from the US from 1934.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_the_United_States#Supreme_Court_rulings

the Philippines never achieved statehood.

Texas V. White was not overturned.

of course not

Not technically overturned, but effectively nullified regarding the CSA. Separatist movements never became popular enough in the US afterwards for it to warrant official responses.

Despite what the Supreme Court ruled at that point, there is, to my knowledge, no clause in the Constitution that specifically bars a state from seceding.

You are correct about the Philippines.

t. law student

it was not overturned, at all. end of story. the ruling is still in force. states are only allowed to secede if the entire nation agree's to it. no unilateral 'im leaving bye guys'.

it violates Article Four of the United States Constitution.

No

True. I promise you that if a popular separatist movement actually springs up in the US that doesn't involve the subjugation of 1/3 of the population in that territory, I and others may work against any law that would compromise their sovereignty, in that hypothetical situation.