Arabs are nomad warriors that battle regulary and eat a diet of fermented milk, cheese, butter, meat

Those Arabs weren't the same guys who conquered Persia. Khalid wouldn't have lost to the Mongols.

they took advantage of the eastern roman empire and the sassanids being completely exhausted by endless war
their amies consisted mostly out of non-arabs
as soon as things stabilized in the west and middle east, arabs got kicked around by everyone

the crusades werent even against arabs
they were against turks

yeah but not as much after their expansion

thats exactly what i explained in my post retard
>Muh sassanids/byzantine exhausted war

shut up
also before the sassanids/ byzantine wars
Arabs had a lot of civil wars too

its amazing how do you cope that the two world superpowers (like usa and china of those days) got btfo by literal desert dwellers (like north korea of those day)

This is true.

This is also true. OP is retarded. Arabs were also sedentary people who traded and lived in city centers - backwaters for sure for the time period but still. Yea there were plenty of nomads but they weren't nomads like the Mongols or Turks.

True, but also fair. All great empires form from the ashes of others. Regardless it’s an amazing feat to take on two of the worlds superpowers and destroy them - from a provincial backwater who never had that form of organization.

I think many groups of peoples get a ‘conquerer’ and great man every once in a while, and Muhammad was a great one. To create a world religion and do what he did he had to act like a paragon of virtue (for the time period, im not muslim just saying that people would not follow him unless he was on paper at least) and be a political unifier. Really an amazing man.

>their amies consisted mostly out of non-arabs
just not true

Battle of Tours halted arab conquest and Siege of Narbonne pushed them back behind the pyrenees. They held southwest of France for a couple years inbetween those battles but it wasn't even part of the frankish empire at the time

Arabs didn't destroy the byzantines they just took the levant and Egypt which was barely defended.

They were defended, look up the battles that happened to take those areas. Those areas weren’t unprofitable or shitholes at the time, lmao.

what a load of rubbish, plenty of ppl gave up their nomadic lifestyle and continued to prosper
the turks kicked your sorry brown butt on horse and on foot, just like we did, saracen towelheads

This
Egypt was the breastbasket of the greeks and romans for over 800 years

Also the levant far more green than today

They were not defended, byzantines forces were exhausted and used to protect anatolia from Persia which left levant and Egypt barely defended, the Muslims were defeated by the byzantines and that marked the end of north east expansion.

Shut up balkanshit rapebaby
Turks literally humiliated you from histoey but you continue to lick their boots like a slav(e)

more like repelled a arab invasion, but didn't managed to really btfo them. Arabs remained as a powerful people, even in Europe itself

>they just took the levant and Egypt
This was like half the Byzantine lands at the time. They had been part of Rome for centuries so they weren't newly acquired pieces of foreign land either.

>Khalid wouldn't have lost to the Mongols.
le lol

>they just took the levant and Egypt
This was like half the Byzantine lands at the time. They had been part of Rome for centuries so they weren't newly acquired pieces of foreign land either.
Levant is a desert and outside byzantine frontiers, Egypt is too far away from Constantinople and anatolia was worth more than the entirety of Muslim lands.

Yeah espcially hulagu who will get btfo

If you told me Subutai, i would say its either a draw or a hard victory for khalid
Its not because you hate arabs that you mean to understimate one of the greatest general of history

Arabs are great people, I'm proud to be one.

Power levels go like this:
Mamluks > second and third generation Mongols
first-generation Mongols > Mamluks
Khalid > all first generation Mongols except ones commanded by Subutai
Khalid >= Subutai

they repelled an invasion, pushed them back and than conquered part of their land in return

>and anatolia was worth more than the entirety of Muslim lands.
I don't think you get how much value, monetary and otherwise, those lands had.

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If you actually know anything about military history, you know that the Arabs had some of the most disorganised, poorly-trained armies to ever walk the earth. They were only ever successful because they relied on terrorism and scare tactics.

Wow Africa has really conquered a lot since then.

It's okay Theodore, losing to a man like Khalid at Yarmouk is nothing to be ashamed of.

Turkey 23.83 million hectares farmable land 2005

Iraq 5.75 million hectares 2003
Syria 4.87 million hectares 2005
Egypt 3 million

>"doesn't count, they won the wrong way"

Stupid, very stupid.