I just learned the Aztec nobility bloodline is still around. They live part time in Spain as richfags and actually have Spanish nobility status. Why didn't they ever try to reinstate some sort of neo-Indigenous Mexican nationalist movement in Mexico?
Pic related is Juan José Marcilla de Teruel-Moctezuma y Valcárcel, direct descendant of the last Aztec emperor.
because they're spanishits not indio bvlls
because they're spanishits not indio bvlls
Yeah, the duchy of Mexico and Tehuantepec are real things. I remember watching a documentary that most of Moctezuma descendants married spanish nobility because Spain's plan was to unify their legit crowns and noble houses just like they did in Europe at the time
>Why didn't they ever try to reinstate some sort of neo-Indigenous Mexican nationalist movement in Mexico?
Because not everyone are Mexicas (Aztecs), those were only a tiny part of Mexico and dominated other towns, they weren't a nation-state. That's why in the moment some dudes with magic fire appeared, literally everyone rebelled, because they were NOT mexicas, juts tributary to them.
Thought some sort of thing happened after the Revolution that made some sort of legitimacy to the indigenous nationalist movement but instead of pure indigenous it was a mixed nationalist movement.
>neo-Indigenous Mexican nationalist movement
because they aren't.
The indigenous blood in that bloodline has been diluted so much, that it's negligible. They are 99% spanish.
He looks like a typical mestizo you'd see working at an ice cream shop anywhere in Mexico.
>Why didn't they ever try to reinstate some sort of neo-Indigenous Mexican nationalist movement in Mexico
Because the idea that being a loser and a victim or being descendent of them enhances your status rather than lowers it is a recent invention by American society. Usually people would claim descendance from the powerful and successful, not from the weak and disenfranchised.
He looks loke like your average hispanic boomer from extremadura who watches the toros and has the spanish flag hanging on his balcony
He looks like the macarena dudes
>Why didn't they ever try to reinstate some sort of neo-Indigenous Mexican nationalist movement in Mexico?
1. YOU MEAN: «TENOCHCA», NOT: «AZTEC»; THE AZTEC WERE ALL THE TRIBES THAT WENT OUT FROM AZTLAN INTO MESOAMERICA; THE MEXICA WERE THE AZTEC TRIBES THAT SETTLED IN ANAHUAC; THE TENOCHCA WERE THE TRIBE THAT FOUNDED TENOCHTITLAN.
2. THE TERM: «NEOINDIGENOUS MEXICAN NATIONALIST», IS A PARADOXICAL WORDSALAD THAT IS VOID OF ALL REASON; «INDIGENISM» IS ANTIMEXICAN, THUS, ANTINATIONALISTIC.
3. WHY WOULD THE DYNASTY OF MOCTEZUMA EVER WANT TO STIR CHAOS IN MEXICO TO ESTABLISH AN AMERINDIAN ETHNOSTATE?
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Why would they leave their comfy life
>reinstate some sort of neo-Indigenous Mexican nationalist movement in Mexico
We adhere to enlightenment values so nothing good would come out of such foolishness
This, Aztec 'Empire' was basically the new world equivalent of steppenigger hordes, in contrast the Incas were much more centralised, hence Quechua has many more surviving speakers than Nahuatl
Inca nobility descendants are everywhere in Cusco and beyond, a bunch of our presidents were their descendants, and some other South American countries also had them, like Bolivia or Chile, one descendant was even president of some Central American country, the Argentinian queen of Netherlands is a descendant as well, and noble laureate Vargas Llosa too
Why are the Quechua so based?
HOWEVER, Inca nobility is heavily tainted by European blood, because they kept being nobility in the colony, many Spaniards intermarried so they could acquire wealth and prestige easily, Spain even send nobles to America to specifically marry into the Inca nobility, to legitimate their ruling, so they aren't pure natives now, especially the most successful/notorious ones, Pinochet for example, by mother line he had as an ancestor one colonial Inca princess who lived in Argentina (and who herself descended from Inca Emperor Wayna Qhapaq), a single one in a sea of European ancestors, so meaningful that isn't much worth mentioning, the same goes for several others, in other cases the native bold heavier but still mestizos and castizos aren't indios
Andres Avelino Caseres, Peruvian general and president, mestizo with Inca-Wanka nobility blood
They're Spaniards
>Spain even send nobles to America to specifically marry into the Inca nobility
Is also worth mentioning that Peru had the largest number of nobility titles in all of the colonial Americas
>meaningful
*meaningless
Even the Aztec at the time didn’t give a fuck about hereditary lineage. When they captured Montezuma in the palace and had him tell his people to surrender, they set the building on fire and tried to kill them all.
remidner that Moctezuma was stoned by the people, the real last tlatoani was Cuauhtemoc and he heroically died tortured by spanairds for muh gold
>Even the Aztec at the time didn’t give a fuck about hereditary lineage. When they captured Montezuma in the palace and had him tell his people to surrender, they set the building on fire and tried to kill them all.
That's actually pretty awesome.
CUAHUTEMOC MURIÓ AÑOS DESPUÉS DE LA CONQUISTA DE TENOCHTITLAN, EN LA EXPEDICIÓN HACIA GUATEMALA, EJECUTADO DESPUÉS DE HABER ORGANIZADO UNA REVUELTA FALLIDA EN EL TRAYECTO.
>They live part time in Spain
No they actually live full time in Spain, they are spaniards, they dont really give much of a fuck about México, all they do is bitch every once in a while for a pension they think mexican goverment should give them because the manolos cut a deal with them 500 years ago, its like 95k dollars a year, México stoped paying it a long time ago
There is another blood line of descendants that stayed here, they are heavily mixed now, not even they give much of a fuck about euromoctezumas and thibk their claim is bullshit, that family is more into academics but has had some member that had been in mexican politics, i guess dosent matter the race, old money dont die so easily
Also we are the descendants of the indios that raised against tenochtitlan fuck would we follow some rich fags that our actual ancestors kicked out of the throne
>el esquizo ha iniciado sesión
too bad they had to civil war basically the same day that spaniards arrived
Mesoamerica should be centralid mayan & pueblo andid clay. There is very little trace of aztecs and their culture, the obsession with them needs to stop.....
Nigga he has literally 1 native ancestor in 500 fucking years, is not that he looks mixed, is that mexicans and spaniards just dont really look all that different unless you go to the extreme in both cases
>There is another blood line of descendants that stayed here, they are heavily mixed now, not even they give much of a fuck about euromoctezumas and thibk their claim is bullshit, that family is more into academics but has had some member that had been in mexican politics, i guess dosent matter the race, old money dont die so easily
Who are they?
There are more Nahuas than any other single indigenous ethnic group in Mexico. Though if you count all the Maya ethnic groups as one group, then they outnumber all other indigenous ethnic groups.
This is probablly the most famous one, Eduardo Matos Moctezuma, an arqueologist and antropología that was in charge of the templo Mayor aztec arqueológica site in México city back in the 70s and 80s, he has also worked in many other sites in México
Quechua has more speakers because they've always had higher populations
That guy is a legit Indio, Spaniards are white, not short and brown with a parrot nose like that injun
Just ignore the tranny
There was probably more nahua speakers at one point. Mesoamerica was more densely populated
Dense! = greater