General where we discuss Ādəɣă, Q̇ăbărdej, Aṕswaa, Tʷaχə and Abaza.
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Which nation are you from?
nice suluguni in the pic, georgians do the best cheese. You bought it?
Nah, it's Adyghe Cheese from Wikipedia.
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>press x to doubt
overall I give this thread a generous 3 out of 10
and a friendly reminder that Abkhazia is Georgia
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I'm %50 g*orgian/c*rcassian but I dont know any shit about them. Who care. Fuck them all. They are subhuman churkas.
Abkhazia is Abkhazian. It just became "Georgian" after the consolidation of the Georgian Kingdom and the first dynasty died out, however, the First Royals of Abkhazia were Abkhazian Anchaba.
Ah. I like Turks, but I don't get the love of George Floyd there.
It looks Imeretian cheese actually, Suluguni (pic related) is a little different tho
Serving your Georgian overlord Ahmed?
>the first mention of Abkhazian language was in 18th century
and the anchabadze were Georgian, while Shervashidze were Georgianized Shirvanis. i am not saying that there were no Apsuas in Abkhazia(there probably were near Nikopsia) but the region was is and will be Georgian
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The common language was Abkhaz but the liturgical one was first Greek, then Georgian. Anchabadze were Georgianised and knew Georgian especially after leaving for Kartli but also knew Abkhaz but now have likely forgotten it in Georgia. en.wikipedia.org
>Why yes, I read Abkhaz historians, how did you know?
I was originally neutral on the subject but overwhelming evidence supports Abkhaz indigenousness. Abaza didn't migrate to Abkhazia to become Abkhaz, the opposite is true rather Abaza migrated from Abkhazia to Abazinia. Here is more evidence. Kartvelians didn't build Dolmens. en.wikipedia.org
Of course they were Abkhazian, the term Abkhaz was the alternate exonym of Georgia until 15th century. Most commonly the term Abkhazian was used to denote western Georgians.
That is highly unlikely, not a SINGLE source suggests the existence of an Apsua majority in Abkhazia. and after the unification of Georgia Abkhazia was one of the only regions which did not rebel. even the kakhetians and tao-klarjetians rebeled but not abkhazians. if the abkhazians were the majority in the region and did not like the georgian rule, why didn't they say anything?
post cute georgian, abkhaz, and circassian girls
By the Turks yes, but that didn't make Georgians Abkhazian or Abkhazians Georgians.
They actually liked Georgian rule because of the threat Northern neighbors and Turks posed. Back then rebellion wasn't ethnic as it is now. It's only when Stalin began the policy of Abkhazian erasure that they hated it.
already seen this pic hundreds of times
>By the Spaniards yes, but that didn't make Germans Alemanes or Alemanes Germans.
This is almost similar bullshit, what you have written above
No because the Alemanni were indeed a High-German speaking tribe though not all Germanic tribes of course were Alemanni. Your argument is akin to calling the Welsh "English" because of English cultural, religious and linguistic domination.
Checked. This one is the best looking.
Based.
Lips too big though.
Nah, just right.
except there are thousands of examples and evidence that the welsh weren't only there, but were there much earlier than anglos, plus the anglos knew that the welsh were a different people with different language and had at least some texts with the welsh language used. none of that applies in Abkhazia though, just the opposite
It seems you are using the Georgian to denote eastern Georgian tribes known as Iberians, whose cultural and religious dominance of course existed. So you are correct about "Iberization" or "Kartization" theory. But you are ignoring western Georgian tribes, who spoke their own language and lived in this area for centuries. The terms: Colchian, Lazic, Megrel, Abkhaz and finally Imeretian were used to denote western Georgians in general.
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Doesn't always apply. I mean Svan was only recorded around the same time as Abkhaz and Circassian languages. Does that mean Svaneti is a lie? Reminder the Armenians recorded the Apsilae as "Psioun" which does not have a Kartvelian etymology.
No I use Georgian to describe the Kartvelians as a superethnos though specifically it means those of Kartli. I personally believe the Colchians held the Abkhaz as vassals until the sack of Colchis by the Persians then the tables turned.
Love their music.
>Reminder the Armenians recorded the Apsilae as "Psioun" which does not have a Kartvelian etymology.
lmao. are you sure? there are lots of words which has pkh, psh, ps, ph etc root in Kartvelian languages and most of them are linked to 'water'. What does it means in Circassian or Apsuan language?
Svan was a very small language in a very remote place, nevertheless, Svan and mingrelian were described to be "different" from Georgian much earlier than abkhaz
Fun fact is that Abasgians and Apsilians first appeared in greek chronicles only after 1sth century BC, those two are also marked as Colchian tribes by various historians.