In the US, can a company fire an employee for no reason?

They're not illegal but they have definitely lost power. Also, as this other user said a lot of unions were involved in shady stuff. They were connected to anarchist groups and the Italian mafia. Although the country definitely needs better unions there are still reasons why people distrust them

I'm pretty sure it depends on the sector. I've been told that their writers and theater unions are pretty stronk. Ironic considering how low impact that industry might have when compared to something as important as supply and logistics like Amazon, but whatever.

>They were connected to anarchist groups
That's a good thing. They would eventually become communists, if your government didn't restrictred their freedoms

Over here in some retail jobs the union comes during your induction and you get free lawyers and shit and they actually fight for workers to get more pay, etc.

Yes of course.

They used to be nothing more than mafia rackets. Do you know I have to pay a yearly fee to the union? So they "protect" my job? Nothing has changed.

Yes, work in America is basically slavery with benefits.

>Why do americans look down on unions?
Because they're often seen as corrupt as shit (Police and Teamsters), incredibly ineffective (PATCO, any of the unions that focused on now dead industries such as steel) or parasitic.

Why are americans unions like that?

I could be wrong but I always thought the problem is that those jobs are mostly viewed as "dead end", so there's no real incentive to bother unionising - who wants to still be working in an Amazon warehouse or a McDonalds restaurant a decade later, even if the pay was better? Unlike in the past, where people could be (somewhat) content working in a factory job from highschool to retirement.

Most of our unions have decayed as well, I think the only major ones are for white collar professionals now (nurses, teachers, bureaucrats etc)

Yeah and they definitely need to be strengthen here. I just said the reason that some people distrust them

Money. Everything comes down to money. I don't know why you people haven't realized this.

>tfw can't join a union or i'll be fired

I support the principle of labor unionization, but in practice many unions in America are bloated, privileged, and sometimes corrupt. They often become self-preserving bureaucracies and political lobbying organizations with less focus on workers’ rights and more focus on facilitating cronyism. Also the coerced membership of certain unions is a blatant violation of the agency of the working individual as opposed to the working collective, no matter how much unions bitch about muh free riders. Unions should either be 100% voluntary or nonexistent.

>They often become self-preserving bureaucracies and political lobbying organizations
That's exactly what they've become here. High ranking members of the larger unions are basically the new nobility.

they hired spy companies to data mine all your info and have it logged on file as easy ways to fire you
it's extremely blanket bot tier shit too, you posting on here gets you a racist tag, logged for at least 10 years making you easy to fire

Happens here too. You're also sometimes legally required to be in a union (depending on the sector). The idea is that allowing independent workers undermines the whole point of having unions and that a larger member base would mean smaller union fees because they're more widespread but that doesn't necessarily happen.
The question is what the fuck do you do? Getting rid of unions altogether is like throwing the baby with the bathwater, but the system can clearly be broken and abused. Both sides of the argument really want to see the other side get fucked so it's hard to come to an agreement.

My dad has a saying: "Good enough for union work"

>Do you know I have to pay a yearly fee to the union? So they "protect" my job? Nothing has changed.
based low iq retard

Modern US labor unions are bullshit, far more resembling the corporate entities they claim to oppose at the leadership level than they would ever want you to know. United Steelworkers pour hundreds of thousands of dollars into opposing Missouri's 2018 Senate Bill 19 that was painted as anti-worker, pro-corporation, and against the middle class. The language in that bill?
>"Under this act, employers are barred from requiring employees to become, remain, or refrain from becoming a member of a labor organization or pay dues or other charges required of labor organization members as a condition of employment."
Anyone that says that unions are illegal in the US is retarded. They even exist is so-called "Right to Work" states, which liberal bootlickers will say are anti-worker. Just in those states, unions can't hold up the company OR the workers for their money.

>He thinks unions will actually protect you
Lol

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>Just in those states, unions can't hold up the company OR the workers for their money.
So they're not unions, they're social clubs.

You can thank the neoliberal politicians you voted into office for manufacturing moving overseas.

american politics is heavily corrupted, i cant even tell you how many union leaders ive had shilling democrats despite working in an area the democrats heavily want to impose restrictions on. Politicians and union leaders double team the business until everyone gets layed off and then they wonder how even people in the union can vote republican

The same ones that unions back every fucking election?

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lol you think you got me there?
bill clinton is a neoliberal pedophile moloch worshiper
the fact that the leaders of national level unions are often lackeys of the democratic party doesn't change the fact that unions are always going to need dues from the people on whose behalf they are negotiating for in order to have any effective stance against the employers.

A social club sounds significantly more entertaining than paying an unseen entity a dollar amount per week for the privilege to work
Funny how unions consistently want their members to back politicians that only increase handouts to people that don't want to work. So much for being pro-worker.

>they are negotiating for in order to have any effective stance against the employers.
A stance that is always castrated due to the continued existence of, say, Taft-Hartley.

The reason it's done that way is because companies will only hire non union workers. Have a relative who would get called to work on the weekends for free and work extra hours. Don't like it? Fuck off. You're in a union? Fuck off.

>muh nee-oh-librul
The more lefties use this word the less it sounds like they know what it means