NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST PROVIDE HEALTHCARE AND EDUCATION TO YOUR OWN CITIZENS, I'LL CALL A BOOGEYMAN TERM FROM THE COLD WAR IF YOU DO THAT
NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST PROVIDE HEALTHCARE AND EDUCATION TO YOUR OWN CITIZENS...
Chase Collins
Nolan Phillips
universally health care would be nice
Grayson Taylor
CHI
Mason Ortiz
I'm a euro mutt
Jace Nguyen
it's not as easy as just doing it, most people have no idea what it'd take to create a system and the institutions required to make public healthcare work here. When a country provides universal healthcare, the healthiness of a person is no longer just a personal responsibility, it's everybody's responsibility. A fat person in America is a detriment to himself, a fat person in Australia is a detriment to society because YOUR taxes pay for the fat person's irresponsibility. Countries with universal healthcare have invested themselves to their citizen's health. Countries with free healthcare have heavy taxes on fatty foods and sugar. Your sugar contents are regulated, portion sizes are regulated, everything is regulated to take burden off of the healthcare system and ultimately the lives of it's citizens. I do not believe this system would work in America. The idea of personal choice is too valued to allow unhealthy foods to be regulated and taxed.
Thomas Lewis
You know our country would fuck it up like everything else they touch.
Wyatt Ortiz
That's average americans at this point
Cooper Peterson
They can't afford it
You already spend shit load of taxpayer money on healthcare while getting nothing in return. Imagine being cucked like that. What's the point of paying taxes if you don't get nothing for them? It's not like USA is a tax haven or anything. Your overall tax rate isn't even that low
Jordan Baker
This. The costs of running a universal system in America would be insane. Everybody here is fat lol
Thomas Brown
>why is your country different
Xavier Parker
That isn't taxpayer money user. That is money spent on insurance and health costs. None of that is paid through taxes except the impoverished on Obamacare. Do you think Americans would be okay with a 15-25% hike on their income taxes to pay for a healthcare system? Can we even afford to do such a thing on top of our current military budget and other things?
Dominic Bell
Michael Cruz
Easier said than done, the US already has a massive budget deficit, it's not easy to implement it
David Lewis
>That isn't taxpayer money user
Yes it is. seems like you don't even know how you're being cucked by. The money just goes to countless middle men, administration, bureaucrat and other jews not to the healtcare itself
Ayden Watson
We have all of this here.
Daniel Mitchell
None of it is taxed user, it's all private companies. There is no law that makes me go out and buy health insurance.
Jack Butler
Why does Iran do this, user?
Xavier James
>whataboutism.jpg
Elijah Phillips
That's what Obamacare was but Trump did away with the ever increasing fine for not buying insurance.
Christian Hughes
>public spending
>not taxed
Lmao what?
>There is no law that makes me go out and buy health insurance.
What are you even talking about? Your government spends more money on healthcare than most other countries while you're not getting nothing in return.
>you pay taxes
>government spends it on healthcare
Yes your government spends a lot of on healthcare and you're not benefiting from it.
Brody Robinson
stop being a retard
Connor Lopez
Yes
Ayden Hill
No it doesn't user, if you look at the per capita graph you posted earlier, it's pretty in line with other countries. Switzerland is right at level with us on public spending per capita and we have similar gdp per capita incomes. The problem is that the majority of Americans DO NOT have publicly funded healthcare.
Jackson Lopez
Iran is an illegitimate terrorist state just like Israel.
Why are you using them as the standard to compare yourself to?
Kayden Taylor
>Why does Iran do this....
Jordan Torres
>The problem is that the majority of Americans DO NOT have publicly funded healthcare.
Yeah that's the problem right there. Where does your government spends that money? It's not like you couldn't afford since you're already spending more than most countries
Josiah Brooks
It’s literally easy even fucking 3rd worlders can do it. You just charge the govt to use the existing healthcare infrastructure. Over time they will force the hospitals to lower prices.
Julian Price
The money is spent on protecting E*ropeans because they won't spend 2% gdp on defense like they promised so they could join NATO. So we have to pick up the slack and do it for them.
Juan Bell
you're insinuating that all public healthcare systems are the same. Do you think Indians have great healthcare systems?
Hudson Bennett
>Bombing the shit out of random Middle Eastern countries counts as "protecting Europeans"
James Foster
It is Iran's aggression that forces us to place bases there, we don't want to but they make us do it. Lemme guess, India doesn't want to take up the cost of making the world safe?
Christopher Baker
you think that there wouldn't be a massive chimpout if we shut down all bases and military infrastructure in Europe in addition to bases all over the world?
Luis King
You have public spending on healthcare. That's what he's asking about. Other than all the money that you pay that go through insurance companies, you also pay as much taxes towards healthcare as Europeans do.
In total you pay like twice as much per capital.
Austin Kelly
>No it doesn't user,
Yes it does. in this graph, the dark blue part is tax money
Jackson Long
Jordan Bell
If by "chimpout" you mean "massive celebrations", then sure
David Diaz
No we don't. Public spending on healthcare is ONLY provided to government employees and the impoverished have a public health insurance fund, Everybody else uses private insurance companies. The amount we pay per capita for those public employees is on par with other wealthy european countries. The real issue is the speculation and premiums that private companies charge for the majority.
Leo Hernandez
Thailand is supposedly pretty good.
Jack Lewis
now take those dark blue parts and correlate them to gdp per capita. We are not an outlier when it comes to public spending.
Luis Fisher
iran and america are both the niggerkikes of international politics and should be eradicated. israel too.
Ethan Fisher
"We can't afford it" is a complete joke and anyone who isn't retarded shouldn't fall for it anymore.
Ethan Turner
maybe by the plebs but the governments would be freaking out. They would have to fund their own military
Brody Howard
I guess you don't spend money on military either since the weapon manufactures are private companies.
Wyatt Morgan
Are you the same guy? If so then you said that you didn't have any public spending. Public spending means taxes.
Anthony Taylor
oranges to apples user. I do not give the government tax money for them to pay private insurance companies so they can provide me insurance. The military is funded publicly and then outsources r&d and manufacturing. The government is not involved with healthcare for most people.
Nicholas Richardson
People here are too psychopathic for cooperation. Day 1 everyone would line up for free opioids/xanax/crutches which they would then turn around and sell for cash. You know this to be concurrent with the American character.
America is not a country but rather an economic zone
Noah Allen
government employees have public healthcare. The giant light blue part of our healthcare spending is private through insurance companies.
Cameron Sanchez
Australia and the UK are pretty fat and we manage just fine. This is just a cop out excuse from conservatives so everyone agrees YEAH JUST LET EM DIE
Andrew Bennett
You left out the part where I mentioned that you have extreme health regulations on your food. That wouldn't fly here.
Jackson Morgan
Overall the public+private adds up to you paying a lot more per capita that other countries
Oliver Long
Then just don't prescribe it to anyone that wants it but be more restrictive
William Watson
And that’s a good thing
Nicholas Garcia
you don't understand what i'm saying. I never said that our healthcare spending wasn't rediculous, i was pointing out that it's not something inherently wrong with our public system. The real problem lies with the majority of Americans not being on a public system, they are using private insurance.