Help me I'm retarded. Is Turkey a corrupt democracy like the US or a complete fraud like Russia...

Help me I'm retarded. Is Turkey a corrupt democracy like the US or a complete fraud like Russia? Like obviously there's one dominant party but how real are the elections?

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A little more corrupt than the US, but not by much.

No such thing as real elections in a capitalist country.

US is not corrupt

The US is corrupt but not THAT corrupt.

all democracies are corrupt

In between the EU and Russia in terms of election quality. The rule of law is garbage and ignored there, but there is genuine opposition from other political parties. I would compare it to Brazil.

literally like russia

>complete fraud like Russia?
why are mutts like this? if anything is fraud it's your shithole where 2 parties controlled by the same people are making a silly show americans so fond of every 4 years. i'd break your jaw if a i had a chance, fat subhuman ratmutt.

better than russia.

i'd fucking heem you artyom

how the fuck you know my name wtf bro

>AIPAC has deposited 5 shekels to your account

Agreed we should adopt a Russian system where we have only one real party instead

COPE

our first 2 parties are actually governed by same source, which i still couldn't figure out who that is

everytime AKP votes go down, their main "opposition" CHP does incredibly stupid shit. this happens everytime especially before elections, like a clock

i don't tell you russia is perfect but your cringeworhy obssesion with your system is strange and silly as hell. you're a joke to a world, you know that? american dream basically has died to anyone sane, exepct for poor brown people your country take in.

You can't deny that America is #1 in many sectors right now, even though their society seems to be falling down currently.

Yes, and yet Europeans are still so scared of being influenced by your corrupt failed state that they still side with us despite it all. You are a fake democracy, a pariah state only allied to Iran, and you have no choice in determining how your country improves and recovers. How does that make you feel?

it's less corrupt than you think weirdly. The media over there is just hyper-sensationalist and there's alot of extrem disinformation. There's a similar level of conspiracy theory than in the US. The average turk speaks only in turkish with minimal outside influence. They're self-sufficient on their culture and food(istanbul is the only city in europe I didn't ate bananas on the road). There is a level of corruption that is clearly a problem, but not near russia.

Eu countries are all fake democracies too

Are you diaspora?

isnt their voting system kind of defacto 2-turn voting system?

2-turn vote looks pretty democratic desu

Trust me, the US is the most stable country on earth.

there are no un-corrupt democracy. your country is ruled by deep state and so is mine. people hold no real power.

true, but at least they give their people law and justice so they can thrive and opt to live a respectable life.

technically yes, officially no

>give
the people imposes this*
if people are dangerous or have a slave mentality they get shat on

yet they slave away their lifes and give their hard earned money as tax . im not saying there should be no taxes, but most tax is stealing and doesn't return to citizens as service. High portion of the peoples money go to bankers, deep state, cabals w/e

Are you a mountain turk?

>law and justice
Yeah if you're white

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It's not a fraud at all. Most of these poor countries in the east unironically have their "dictators" voted in by the people. However, it is very easy to buy votes in Russia,Turkey,Armenia, Azerbaijan,Belarus, etc. Yes they do get voted in but it's because there is a large population of people who's votes are very easy to buy. Once you get to power you just have to rob the people and bribe them to vote for you
>I steal $10 from you
>You need money and are desperate to feed your family
>I give you $2
>I am your hero now and you vote for me
Just keep doing this and get reelected

russia will exist in a 1000 years and the us wont lol