DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2352

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imabi.net/tableofcontents.htm
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en.wiktionary.org/wiki/約束
youtube.com/watch?time_continue=104&v=wvF5Y2101Lk&feature=emb_title
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>あーあいつ用が入ったからこねえって
I answered that one in the previous thread, look back and see if it makes you understand it (and if not ask about what you don't~)

>なんか俺 体力低下してんなぁ…手がふるえる…
Which part exactly is it you're having problems with?
>なんか is under 何か in EDICT, and different from the など なんか
>してんなぁ = してるなぁ = しているなぁ
You'll often find る -> ん if it's followed by a ナ行 syllable afterwards

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>the previous
*a previous
>Tae Kim
Oh、and since you keep mentioning him, I'd recommend imabi.net/tableofcontents.htm and core6000.neocities.org/dojg/ over him~

>imabi
fuck no
>core6000
now that's based

i get imabi is very knowledgable but that's just an eyesore half the time, at least to me. wasabi-jpn has been good on some occasions

don't worry, everyone feels like this in the beginning, just keep going and it will get better. at some point you will stop looking up grammar automatically.

>fuck no
youtu.be/jhzzQd5hdCM?t=18

It was fun most of the time to me~

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Lately, I've been reading and wondering. Should I stop, try to understand as much as I can before moving on (such as remembering the kanji shapes/the kanjis that make up that word/meaning/reading) or should I just read and having seen the meaning from yomichan is enough? Should I even try to memorize or will I just naturally memorize through exposure from reading and seeing the word so often? I'm talking about in terms of novels by the way. I like to think if I just keep reading and not stopping to try and memorize words that I might just pick them up and that would be much easier, but I've also heard that more effort might result in better recall.

thanks for the encouragement, I probably need to get back to studying but I'll make sure to just keep trying to see if it gets any easier. Maybe after a month of 'reading' I'll hit a point where I won't struggle so much.

Kanji of the day: 臘
I can vouch for Imabi, it has way too many examples but you can skim through those, and it's very informative

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I would recommend to just read but that is because it is what I decided to do. There nothing stopping you from doing a mix of both as well. I only read the meaning of the words when I am reading or playing a game but when I am doing Anki I look up nearly all information I can find of the kanji I don't recognize yet and do the same when I fail a kanji more than once.

Recommended anki settings for starting out? Also I'm trying to set up images on my phone but since I'm having some trouble, if you tell me It doesn't matter I'll give up

Use the basic settings and change as you see fit while you go on. Don't make anything too weird at the start. You will fuck things up.

Reading through Axanael right now and I can't seem to understand the last sentence here, anybody help?
> Surely, the Sotocander (town mascot) I designed ...
I'm guessing he's saying that the bike would look better had the owner decorated the bike with his character instead.
I'm particularly curious about what UP+ means (not sure if it isn't an in-game term) and what meaning 飾る has here.

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Is there such a thing as a dictionary of Chinese characters that shows all their readings in Japanese, Chinese, and Korean?

Like
約束 = yakusoku/yueshu/yaksok
特別 = tokubetsu/tebie/teokbyeol

Wiktionary, but don't trust everything there. Like with Wikipedia, check the sources.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/約束

So is chinese kind of like japanese if they didn't use kana? Because that kind of sounds like a nightmare

>Kanji of the day: 臘
Real kanji of the day: 糴 and 糶
Images don't matter
>how much more time are you going to spend before starting Anki~

You know those African tribal languages that use clicks and gutteral sounds? Chinese is the disgusting Asian version of that?

>images on my phone
the anki core deck should automatically display those on mobile, no? either way the photos are fucking useless desu. make mnemonics if you need them and ignore the photos

for settings watch this video for an in-depth description of how it works.
youtube.com/watch?time_continue=104&v=wvF5Y2101Lk&feature=emb_title

>new cards
steps: 1 10 60 (may play around with this, personally i dont feel comfortable sending cards to the review stage after 10 minutes)
order: show new cards in order added
new cards/day: 15 (increase from here if you feel comfortable, can always do a 'custom' study where you just add 5 new cards if you feel like it)
easy interval: 4 days
starting ease: 250%
>reviews
9999
130%
100%
36500 (can set it to 180 or something, but i dont mind this for now)
>lapses
5 75
20% (some do 15%)
1 day
5 lapses
tag only

Play around, learn what they do, etc.

keep in mind settings that you'll get recommended can vary a lot if someone is a beginner (myself) vs someone who's been at it for a year.

>having to come back to Anki multiple times per day
Sounds like a lot of trouble. I compliment your patience because I would give up and never finish the cards if I had to open Anki again and again, hour after hour because I keep getting a card wrong.

are you the guy who powers through cards? i don't really find myself checking anki too often desu. in the mornings i'll do new cards which take about 30-40 minutes and that gives me time to re-see some cards i got wrong. I'll make lunch and then quickly hit off cards I got wrong initially that needed 60 minutes to pass. i work from home anyways so sometime i can just alt-tab, spend 30 seconds knocking them down then be done. the second go-around for new cards unless i totally don't know it i'll just hit good and move it along.

for lapses i may adjust this as i don't have that many, 5 is good because i can get it right once while going through a potential lapse pool. and then it syncs up well with my new card steps as well. maybe i could just set it to 10 and then bump the new interval up to something like 75% or something

either way, i dont think i spend that much time on anki, review takes barely any time anyways. always curious to hear how others do things though and adjust my learning accordingly if i think it can be improved upon

chinese was invented as a unifying literary language for multiple spoken languages, the characters don't have set sounds, instead they're ideas for words. it's like if we decided to write everything out in pictograms, like instead of moon, we wrote pic related so the french and germans could also read what we're writing without any of us speaking the same language, and then doing that for every single idea/word in the language so everything can be written like that and understood by everyone.

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I watched my first pekora video. She tried pronouncing English names.
>they were swedish

jojo is my favorite swede

That doesnt sound so bad... kinda cute.

spoken chinese feels a lot easier but the tones are a fucking nightmare. the real power move is to never use tones and force the chinese person to do real-time analysis as to what the fuck i was trying to say

You got me good. I laughed pretty good at that. What a hell of a power move. Transcends just Chinese.

I am the same guy from the last thread, I think I am the only BR here today. I do them in around 30 minutes but I don't consider I power through since I often use a kanji book and a few websites at the same time to look up etymology and extra information I am interested in.

If what you are doing works for you it's good. There is no correct way of doing these things that will work perfectly for everybody, there are more efficient methods but it is important to take in consideration your lifestyle. I think that the recommended system is something like 1, 10, 40, 320 or something crazy like that but it takes a toll on you. The first I tried to learn Japanese around 3 years ago I completed the 6k deck using some setting with a heavy number of repetitions and and a insane number of new cards but it was making me crazy. I was wasting hours per day doing Anki and it made hate learning the language and as soon I matured all my cards I gave up and spent more than year away from anything related to Japanese.

it comes with the high barrier of entry that is spending years memorizing thousands of symbols, but once you breach that hurdle it's the most information dense way to write shit.

Do you use Koujien? I saw it recommended and it looks great for etymology and extra information since it apparently mentions 六書. Costs money though unfortunately.