Daily reminder that our cops are much more violent than American cops...

Daily reminder that our cops are much more violent than American cops, but most of us are proud of them and think they are extremely based
Of course, most Brazilian flags in Zig Forums will say otherwise

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Well its probably a racially/politically divided issue, Bolsonaro supporters would be pro police I’m guessing

You wont solve the problems of your "favelas" simply with cops, you've been trying for decades and its not working. That's only a band-aid. Sure cool looking operators doing cool shit inside of favelas look nice but those guys are just janitors, cleaning up the shit. The real problem is that people with no other way of making a living will resort to robbing each other and making and selling drugs to survive. And the real street goons who would shoot someone for his wallet or phone have nothing to lose. If you spent money on educations and a good amount of (respectable well paid) blue collar jobs you will have less and less crimes

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>you've been trying for decades and its not working
Except it is. It used not to because the police was much weaker that he druglords. Nowadays they are well equiped and crime has fallen drastically.

>no other way of making a living
lol, people don't join trafficking because they want to survive, they join it because they want luxury from all the easy money you get
people on it usually get the latest and greatest and expensive clothing to show off
and the ones who don't didn't want to join in the first place, they were forcibly drafted
and hardly anybody here robs to survive, they Rob for drugs and to buy luxuries they can't afford

sure maybe if you kill or send most of the goons away you will have "less crime" but poverty level are still rising and once the little brothers of the guys you just shot and sent to prison are old enough you will have to take care of them over and over again. i'm all for a good efficient police force but you have to look at the source of the problem

>The real problem is that people with no other way of making a living will resort to robbing each other and making and selling drugs to survive. And the real street goons who would shoot someone for his wallet or phone have nothing to lose
Nah professional criminals are not poorfags trying to get by, they are often not that bad off and very greedy. The disposable hires may be, however, it's not them that facilitate criminal activity especially on a large scale.

>people don't join trafficking because they want to survive
i dont believe that for a second. sure it can be a motivator. But most of them dont fucking rob a store or people on the street thinking they will end up with a lamborghini in two weeks.
t. lived all my life in Capetown

normal people in favelas who want to survive usually make some small store or try to sell food, they don't join trafficking
only scum choose to do it. Including scum who isn't in the favela and goes there to get easy trafficking money
also, if education solved anything, there wouldn't be so many college kids as dealers

Brazil is evolving kinda fast even though it's ruled by corrupt and dumb motherfuckers. My family used to live in a place filled with poverty and now some of those people have University degrees in engineering, chemistry and other stuff. My father had to go to school in the back of trucks that were used to carry minerals,my mother finished high school after her 40's (and they are pale white) and now I study engineering without wasting 1 cent, because I study in of the best universities in Brazil. It's still a shithole,but a shithole with some glimmer of hope.

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>source: trust me bro
so you expect all the young people to open shops of their own? You telling me jobs and prospect are easy to come by in brazil so they just decide to be criminals for the lolz

>But most of them dont fucking rob a store or people on the street thinking
Druglords don't Rob, they deal drugs.
Robbers either do it for drugs or because they want to buy new pretty shoes
Poor people who just want to live just do informal jobs most of the time, they won't Rob people for it. This is why there are so many informal workers here.

Nice, we need a real military police, our cops are too pussy.

I'm not even kidding. People who join trafficking usually are just fuckers who want some extra shit.
Informal works here are common as fuck.
People sell food or low quality clothes most of the time.
I'm northeastern. Used to live in the suburbs, really poor place.
Not a favela, but we were near one.
We managed to move to somewhere better with time.

Also, the ones who join are usually kids whose parents already work and make money.
They usually join because they want some shiny stuff their family can't afford. They ignite their parents If they tell them not to, and would rather go do crime to buy shit.

Thanks for the information. How it was in south africa was that some people literally had to rob to eat food. From the talks i had with brazilian immigrants i thought it was like that aswell in brazil. I still standby by what i said here

you're right but they don't want to invest in education and the little they invest the general populace doesn't give a shit. you see teachers being threatened by students, videos in xvideos of students fucking in classrooms, drug trafficking inside schools and drug use there. I do believe education is the way but at the same time there's no investment and interest by the people.
it's fucked up. let's suppose we even had quality public education in elementary and high school. if they go to uni, who'll afford their bus tariff? their food? favelado parents can't afford to do that either for their children most of times. there's also clothing and entertainment. all the while their friends growing up are ostentating a life of luxury because of traffic

Bro, school is already free and so are the universities.
And people can say what they want, these schools are fine mostly, even if they have issues.
Thing is, most people in public schools turn it into a complete mess. The problem is in the education parents give to their kids.
They go to public schools and turn it into something ok with issues into a complete hell.
They also go there to sell drugs to other kids.
There is opportunity, but it's often screwed up because they don't have familiar education, which is something the government can't give.

Northeast is still very poor, I live here,my family is from here and grew up here,even though I've lived in many other cities and regions over this country. Gladly it's improving a lot and many of us are actually enjoying a decent life which makes me very happy

Doesnt have to be uni either. fuck bullshit jobs, thats one thing that is going to fuck up the west is local people all having uni degrees and doing bullshit jobs (literally called like that look it up). Just find a way to educate people enough to work in industries and such. I am not familiar with the industries of Brazil but i am sure that there are enough ways everyone can make a good income with farm or industrial work. Either way i dont think some drunks on a Vietnamese basket waiving forum at 5 in the morning can solve the poverty in Brazil

Salvador has been improving a lot.
Even the place I used to live was reformed and is looking much better now.
The ones in trafficking love to show off their expensive clothing, expensive phones and cars.

Militarized police forces are a sign that you're treating symptoms and not causes.

>they don't have ghost rider
Are you even trying?

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Also, there are plenty of Catholic institutions that let you study for free if you're dedicated.
I studied in a Catholic school and I had friends that were very poor, but studied for free there.
I didn't get to study for free, but we could pay for it, dad would basically save all his savings to pay for good education for us.
And there are also the Federal Technical Institutes where you can study for free. You gotta keep good grades for it. But you usually get out of there with a job. Usually it's full of the more dedicated Poors there, and they really go up in life from it.
The issue isn't even opportunity here, it's just that every opportunity that is free and accessible gets destroyed by horrible students

Those came from the dictatorship the US imposed on Brazil and they don't want to dissolve it,because no one know exactly how to unite the civil and military police.

Get on our level you monkeys
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We are proud because we are a stupid people. We hate our political class, but love the people that protect them.

We've been brainwashed.

Why the fuck would anybody want to dissolve it? The only reason crime is falling is because they are finally on par with the armaments of the druglords
I have only seen a few people even suggesting it, and nobody takes them seriously because everybody here knows we need a stronger military.
And I don't think the military police is a 64 thing, it's probably older.

There are powers in Brazil that do not want favelas to stop existing. This includes the police too
The state has made deals with the criminal organisations to create a illusion of peace.

>love the people that protect them
We love the people who protect us, retard. Or are you going to come up with some dumb excuse that ATCHUALLY they don't, even though you'd instantly call the police if some armed fucker was trying to invade your house?

what i'm trying to say is that its good that there are such systems but at the moment the gouv should focus on jobs that the masses could do easily. There are allot of ways they can send people in less then a month formations that can give them lifelong jobs. (welding, woodwork, electricians, fishermen, factoryworkers, army)

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>There are powers in Brazil that do not want favelas to stop existing. This includes the police too
redpill me on that bro

Everything that's offered for free has an exam and people with actual resources to pay for preparatory courses end up taking the spots. It's what happens with COLTEC and CEFET here in my city, which has technician jobs such as electronics, chemistry, clinic pathology, industrial instrumentation (whatever) shit like that.
There's also SENAI but I don't really know much about it.
I don't really know any solution. They try to make it so blacks can join through affirmative action. let's see what happens.
yes, but they're needed. like you need firefighters to combat fire before fireproof buildings are made.

Politicians involved in drug trafficking.
With police, he means some militia groups inside the police that work for the traffickers. Not even close to be most of them, so there's no reason to call them "the police"

Of course the government can give it.
People don't suddenly start teaching their children how to behave out of nowhere

No government or teacher can take the place of a father and a mother when it comes to home education. Guiding isn't the same thing either.
The kids are bound to not be educated because the parents aren't either.

Following your logic, our politicians protect us too. Who do you think decide the budget of our police forces? Without money there's no police at all
>even though you'd instantly call the police if some armed fucker was trying to invade your house
I'm live in the countryside. Calling the cops would be useless

>I'm live in the countrysid
vhg... take me with you to the svgarcane fields...

how corrupt is brazil? have you ever encountered it in real life anons? like paying off police, etc

Drugs are extremely profitable, no one with power wants it to stop
The militias are not the majority because of lack of opportunity. The militias started in favelas where the regular police managed to kick the drug dealers, but then decided that there was too much money going on, so they became criminals themselves. To think that any cop wouldn't do the same is quite stupid.

>Following your logic, our politicians protect us too. Who do you think decide the budget of our police forces? Without money there's no police at all
Well, sure. When they raise the budget they are doing something good for us.
Politicians aren't risking their lives, however, so I don't respect them as much for this, and the fact that most are corrupt (which isn't the case for the police, which corruption is mostly in some groups) also makes them different.
But well, I'm happy they finally got some decent fucking weapons instead of shitty pistols.
I feel safer around well armed cops. You might not care because you live in a countryside, bound to have low crime, but I live in one of the most violent cities of the country.

>The kids are bound to not be educated because the parents aren't either.
We evolved from "apes". Do you think that parents 20 million years ago gave the same education to their kids as modern parents do?

Do crimes likes murders go unpunished in the favelas? Like all those crazy execution videos we see that happen in brazilian favelas and jungle like places, involving rival gangs, do cops arrests the murderers or is it just not worth pursuing since favelados are subhumans?

This is something that is built over generations. They aren't going to become good parents all of the sudden, and giving them some certified course is probably not going to help.
Those kids would probably have a better time being raised at an orphanage than at home.

Druglords have their own laws, and they execute or mutilate who doesn't follow them.
Pedos, specifically, are executed.

Once I parked where I shouldn't and the cop was like
>Yo, not cool. That's fine worthy, just pay the coca cola one hand wash another
then we laughed and moved on