Were people just as obsessed with Obama as they are with Trump now? I didn't care about US politics back then
Were people just as obsessed with Obama as they are with Trump now? I didn't care about US politics back then
Xavier Wright
Tyler Howard
yes, there is a reason why trump won, the same voters hated obama even though he didn't do anything to them
Parker Cruz
Yes, people seethed about Bush stole the election from Gore because of the vote counting thing for nearly a decade. And when Bush was voted president, people were seething about how he had to be the dumbest person alive.
Republicans were also completely obsessed with Clinton and accused him of being a literal satanic pedophile (which they still do, kek).
Blake Peterson
Yes. Right wingers literally called him the Antichrist and then turned around and called liberals hysterical for suggesting maybd Trump was racist.
Carter Smith
No. Anyone saying otherwise wasn't old enough to remember. Obama got a free pass from EVERYONE but the Republican party. The fucking swedes gave him a Nobel prize for just being a negro.
Democrats, the institutions they control and their millions of useful idiots have spent the past 4 years engaging in outright sedition.
William Sanders
This except the "Democrats" now a days aren't real Democrats
The real Democrats are actually aiding with trump even though they don't like trump for most of his policies even they know that he is better than Biden
The new ones are just dumbass communists who never want to take responsibility or actually care enough to properly look into things
They are so dumb they chant the memes we've made of them
Example "Vote blue no matter who"
I would laugh if it wasn't so sad
Hunter Ortiz
republican is literally half of the country they wouldn't shut up about his birth since and even now
Gabriel Smith
Siding with trump*
Damn auto correct sorry I'm using my phone
Ayden Allen
I think the main difference that Trump is being attacked as an individual while Obama was seen as part of a larger adminstration.
Oliver Robinson
The thing is the rest of the world is just parroting whatever the Democrats (i.e. the American media) say, with zero opposition.
So it's not one half of America vs another half. It's the entire world vs the Republicans.
Samuel Fisher
What are you even talking about?
Parker Reyes
Cope cope and cope, Republicans were seething about every little thing he did because he was black.
Brody Nelson
Not really
Liam Reed
Ignore the imbeciles ITT, Obama was leagues better at economic, bureaucratic, campaign, state-national relations and foreign policy matters than Trump ever was
Ryan Campbell
He was also way better at extrajudicial killings abroad, and letting three letter agencies ramp up their unconstitutional spying on American citizens.
Jordan Sullivan
Cope
See
Gabriel Myers
no. no president has ever been this attacked every day for 4 years straight
Elijah Sullivan
Correct. Still better than our current administration even despite that.
Easton Turner
Every single post-WW2 US president has extrajudicial killed people abroad.
>letter agencies ramp up their unconstitutional spying on American citizens.
That was thanks to bush though.
Lucas Martinez
People are always obsessed about American presidents and politics.
Sebastian Howard
Can you really blame them? We're the largest economy in the world and Europe is partially under our sphere of influence.
Carson Miller
Hating Obama wasn't mainstream so the only "hate" that made headlines were things the media could laugh at: conspiracy theorists and fringe right wingers.
Ryan White
I'm talking about the people who say they are "leftists" when they actually don't give a shit about policies or reforms
All they care about it that trump is evil for whatever reason
I ask them why do you hate him
They say he's racist or sexist or some dumb shit that has nothing to do with what he actually plans on doing with his presidency
So when they run out of mean things to say about the guy they just say
"Agree to disagree"
And do whatever it takes to not talk about how they just don't like the guy because it's all they hear from their friends and the media
While real "leftist" actually give a shit
They look into who they vote for and go based off policies
They don't like trump but they know that his policies are better than the people who want to take away our rights and will do nothing to stop the riots
Dominic Robinson
>Still better than our current administration even despite that.
For Americans in general, sure. If you live in the middle-east, I guess that's more debatable depending on whether you were a target of the drone program or if you now suffer from Trump's obvious carelessness regarding alliances.
>Every single post-WW2 US president has extrajudicial killed people abroad.
And that makes it right? Obama could have stopped the drone program, instead he ramped it massively up. Friendly reminder that our Nobel committee actually gave him the peace prize, what a scam lol.
>That was thanks to bush though.
It continued under Obama and he did nothing.
Parker Ramirez
>If you live in the middle-east, I guess that's more debatable depending on whether you were a target of the drone program
Trump rammed up the bombing in Afghanistan massively, and he pulled out from the nuclear deal, killed their military leader and is trying to start a war by seizing their oil they're sending to Venezuela/Cuba. If Trump gets another term guaranteed war in Iran.
aljazeera.com
Noah Gomez
>and he pulled out from the nuclear deal, killed their military leader
That's not necessarily a bad thing if you're from Iran, and particularly not if you're a sunni from Iraq.
Isaac Jones
>trying to start war good
America is gonna kill hundreds of thousands of them, destabilize their country and destroy their infrastructure like they've done to every other middle eastern country.
Christian Ortiz
Not quite as much, but he did get much screentime on FOX.
The three scoops of icecream thing reminded me of dijongate.
William Foster
>The fucking swedes gave him a Nobel prize
Swedes don't give peace Nobel prices.
Adrian Diaz
>Trying to start a war
Implying that taking out a military leader that supports shiites insurgencies in Iraq is starting a war and not fucking ending it before it began.
>hurr durr war in Iran
Didn't happen then and not going to happen further down the line.
>destabilize their country and destroy their infrastructure like they've done to every other middle eastern country.
Israel, Turkey and Saudi-Arabia would disagree.
David Gray
No, Obama was just a boring president who didn't do anything unusual apart from being muh first black president
Noah King
Bill Clinton being a pedophile or at least having connections with major pedophile figures is pretty substantiated.
Gabriel Reyes
Okay. You want some policy failures?
>Recommended hydroxychloroquine as a cure to the virus
>Denied the virus crisis for weeks and wasted critical time to enact needed action, causing 170000 corona deaths, more than any other country
>Revoked funding to the health orgs in the middle of global pandemic
>Vetoed bipartisan legislation which would have overturned new regulations from the Education Department to restrict access to federal student loan forgiveness
>Approved 100% foreign ownership of U.S. broadcast properties, overturning 25% limit.
>Deployed military and military forces and equipment on domestic soil to be used against American citizens
>Allowed dark money nonprofits to cease reporting information to the IRS that the government would need to enforce campaign finance laws
>Ended environmental reviews for building new infrastructure like highways or pipelines
>Applied sanctions against International Criminal Court personnel to silence investigations into his misconduct
>Withdrew from the United Nations Human Rights Council
>Reimposed harsh sanctions lifted under the Iran nuclear deal, causing an estimated 1500 deaths
>Largest reduction of federally protected land in history
>Delayed the release of JFK assassination files for 4 more years.
>Weakened separation of church and state, mandated prayers, created a faith-based office
>Repealed over 100 laws on climate change, clean air, clean water, chemical pollution, coal mining, oil drilling, and endangered species protections.
>Reversed Obama-era restrictions on landmines
>Unemployment up at higher rate than any point in the last ten years, even before pandemic
>Retarded tariff policy against China where China now packages its goods in SEA countries at a lower price to trade with USA while the USA further isolates itself economically
>Diplomatically alienated most of our satellite states in Europe, allowing the EU to take further measures against our interests
Lucas Wright
Once the rockstar appeal of being the first black president who appealed to the youth with his use of social media and message of hope and change faded, Americans got pretty bored with him I find. A lot more criticism of him than open praise, though it was fairly softball criticism. Obama was far more loved internationally than domestically.
Josiah Smith
Dude he wore a fucking TAN suit.
Grayson Walker
Dominic Rivera
>Bill Clinton being a pedophile or at least having connections with major pedophile figures is pretty substantiated.
Is it though? Because I don't see widespread accusations of Trump being a pedo, despite having the same fucking connections. Friendly reminder that Trump used to be pretty fucking chummy with the Clintons back in the days too, and they have many of the same connections such as Epstein.
Josiah Ramirez
My countrymen love Obama
Nathaniel Wright
Obama persuaded a lot of would be Republican voters to support him twice because the country was so sick of bushes wars and obama had campaigned as a reformer. He was a huge disappointment so when trump came on the scene he was elected handily. People didnt take trump seriously as a candidate until itcwas too late.
Carson Butler
Probably has to do with America’s reputation and credibility if they officially convicted their own presidents and former for being pedophiles.
Matthew Bailey
W-wait no thats the DEMONRATS fault not Trump's!