Americans treat politics like football. They pick a "team" and "back them" forever, no matter how shit they are or how little sense it makes. If you switch teams you're a bad "fan"
Americans treat politics like football. They pick a "team" and "back them" forever...
Xavier Davis
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Gavin Thomas
It's like football only it involves guns and killing people.
Thomas Campbell
when you've only got two parties that are pretty much exactly the same this is bound to happen
Jordan Phillips
Americans shoot each other over football rivalries all the time.
Ryder Roberts
Any other countries have founders that foreshadowed the countries future problems?
Jordan Young
what's his solution then?
Jordan Hall
Nothing
Americans love to wank over the dudes who signed a paper a long time ago when they say shit like "uhhh I think politics will be too factionalized in the future" like no shit retard
Luis Anderson
normal answer: there is no solution it was just cheap talk
nutjob answer: George like Alexis de Tocqueville and to an extent John Adams realized the necessity of rule of a representative minority and monarchism to suppress populism and tyranny
Caleb Taylor
>Republic
>then Empire
Jack Green
>why yes how could you tell
Christopher Scott
possibly the first true statement about american politics from a foreigner since toqueville
Xavier Wood
No parties
No more (or at least much less) playing sides
Levi Green
The founder of our nation, William of Orange, turned our country into a republic.
The writer of our constitution, Thorbecke, was against political parties.
Jose Nelson
So it's exactly like football in south america
William Wright
Now we're the exact opposite. A monarchy run by a coalition of parties who refuse to make pragmatic decisions on issues.
In our constitution it's also forbidden for politicians while being burdened by others. And now they all vote along with the coalition.
Brandon James
It's forbidden for politicians to first go consult what you're supposed to vote.
Caleb Flores
Laugh at America all you want, but everything they do ends up reaching here after 5 to 10 years.
The solution would be to unironically ban elections, and just randomly select a large enough (n>1000) pool of citizens to act as the assembly, and they rotate as often as possible.
>but these deputies wouldn't be competent!
Are current deputies supposed to be? No, in fact I have no doubt you would have no idea how to actually check for their competency, for whatever that would mean. And competency in what? Science, economics, philosophy, law, military? For everything technical, countries have specialized people that never get elected. All deputies have to do is choose from options according to purely subjective criteria.
If they are selected at random from the general population, by virtue of statistics their aggregated opinion will almost always be within 3 % of that of the general population. Minorities will get exactly the representation they deserve, as well as the upper class, women, manual workers, etc.
Or even better, do away with the concept of an assembly and just allow every issue to be voted by citizens over the internet. We have the technology for that.
Ethan Evans
I've been thinking that one of the reasons politics isn't as toxic (it still is but not so much) as in US over here is because of multiparty parliamentary system. Parties are forced to compromise and work together so the dividing lines aren't so big and paradoxically people can more easily vote for their niche so they are more content with parties.
John White
>Americans treat politics like football
Don't pretend we don't do that too, their problems is that they have fewer teams and they are all retards
Asher Clark
Counter-example: Spanish politics have got worse and more tribal since the two-parties system exploded in 2015
Ian Evans
Could it be because of growing pains? 5 years is a pretty short time to have parties "know" each other and become partners in crime. Contrast this to Finnish system where parties themselves have stabilized since the civil war of 1918 and current parliamentary led system being born basically in the 90's.
Chase Foster
Our 2 teams are both toxicly corrupt Neocon parties
We don't have a progressive/peoples party in the US. The lolbertatian and Green parties can't even get more than like 10 votes so they don't even really exist in the eyes of most murikans. And most Americans would rather vote for the loudest/most famous person in the room than the smartest
Jace White
Both Imperialist parties
Jeremiah Garcia
Aren't Trumpists taking control of republican party? And they are isolationists. Or is the deep state too big a force to be reckoned with?
Julian Harris
Tulsi literally btfo Harris on live TV and that made the establishment MAD
youtu.be
Oliver Hernandez
That could be a factor, but I would tend to think a combination of bad economic conditions and social media is the major culprit here.
You seem to imply trumpists have a consistent ideology. They follow whatever their leader tells them. If he says they go to war with Iran, they will find a way to justify it. The fake opposition to war was just a way to attack Hillary. Trump himself is controlled by cable news (unironically), so in the end Rupert Murdoch is the real most powerful person in the USA.
Brandon Evans
Politics is a conflict of interest masked as a conflict of principles. You can't do anything about this.
Luis White
Trump is part of the deep state he just pretends not to be
Ryan Rogers
>And they are isolationists
Pompeo, Bolton and Elliot Abrams?
Caleb Russell
mommy tulsi
Easton Stewart
Yes, that was A KINO