Is there some way that these countries can bury the hatchet and live in peace?

Its because britbong and draw a proper fucking map.
The real reason for Kashmir is that most of the water giving life to Pakistan and India comes out of J&K and Gilgit-Baltistan and both want control
As long as the indoos dont accept a plebsite Pakistan will always be fucking with them

can't you just do what europe did after ww2 which is to become so economically integrated with eah other that war or conflict simply becomes out of either sides interest. that way it doesnt really matter who kashmir belongs to?

i suppose that relies on both side having good government and an acceptable level of develop though.

reminder their problems stem from british colonialism

yes fine. how do they theoretically get over it though?

what solutions exist?

development brings better education, which lowers religious fundamentalism

>can't you just do what europe did after ww2
To do that we need to do step 1, have a world war
You really don't know the scope of bloodshed and anger both counties have for each other
Kashmir matters because you can control and divert the water whenever you want, both countries are water deficit which will only grow bigger with climate change

J&K was a princely state, and no plebiscite. Atleast none with accession to pakistan as an option.
You are underestimating their miliatry ruling class desire to hold power. Civlian goverment means nothing even if by chance they are more amiable to peace with india. Pakistan doesn't even let gas pipelines from central asia to india happen even though it would benefit them. Why? For the event you describe to not happen, even if that means living with broken economy and crippling the potential of indian subcontinent.

water desalination plants can solve the problem with water supply

>To do that we need to do step 1, have a world war
WRONG - spain and portugal werent involved in WW2 and yet they are in the EU and integrated as everyone else
>You really don't know the scope of bloodshed and anger both counties have for each other
of course i do.
>Kashmir matters because you can control and divert the water whenever you want, both countries are water deficit which will only grow bigger with climate change
so actually Kashmir doesn't matter - both countries have the exact same problem. so prisoners dilemma says that actually the optimal solution is cooperation and that trying to pull a fast one will only lead to a worse solution.

If Pakistan has ample water from indian kashmir (or the opposite situation) - then does it matter?
If india and pakistan's economies are integrated enough, india won't be able to act in a way that is outside of pakistan's intersts and vice versa.

The solution is harmonisation right?

are you indian or pakistani?

not more than from arabic expansionism

Most of their coastline is in an arid, quasi-persian shithole

British

british white ? You said "we"

does it matter?

>J&K was a princely state, and no plebiscite
Princely state sure but plebiscite was to be held through a UN resolution
>Pakistan doesn't even let gas pipelines from central asia
You mean the TAPI gas pipeline that is under construction and is to be completed in 2023?

no but just asking
i mean you should know more pakistanis and indians near you than me

Water desalination is very expensive mate, especially when you consider the needs of a country like Pakistan that has a lot of people and not that much money.

They haven’t figured out how to shit in toilets yet what makes you think they can solve this?

yeah i probably know more pakisatnis than you will ever meet
and more indians than the pakistani will meet in all probability.

here indians and pakistanis don't have a conflict as far as i know. maybe somethings are done separately but in business who cares where you're from.

Ignore the krautfag

Demand reparations and start a curry and pajeet lives matter movement in London

>Muh plebiscite
Pakistan never withdrawned it's forces so why would we hold it?

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>WRONG - spain and portugal werent involved in WW2 and yet they are in the EU and integrated as everyone else.
You should be comparing Pakistan-India to France-Germany,both ready to slit each others throat if they ever get a chance. Its 70 years of beef and will not go aways easily.
>so actually Kashmir doesn't matter - both countries have the exact same problem. so prisoners dilemma says that actually the optimal solution is cooperation and that trying to pull a fast one will only lead to a worse solution.

If Pakistan has ample water from indian kashmir (or the opposite situation) - then does it matter?
If india and pakistan's economies are integrated enough, india won't be able to act in a way that is outside of pakistan's intersts and vice versa.

The solution is harmonisation right?
Nigga both sides need water and if one side diverts water to its country than the other one will starve.

britain won't give any reparations and won't involve itself in kashmir and stuff. all britain will do is try to do trade with both or whoever offers better terms i imagine.

Let there be islamic republic of UK and a Hindu republic of UK

>France-Germany,both ready to slit each others throat if they ever get a chance
and yet that is unfathomable despite the complete and utter destruction these countries have engaged in.

yet pakistan and india have had several full scale wars and yet you think just a few moe will solve stuff.

>Nigga both sides need water and if one side diverts water to its country than the other one will starve.
then share the water equitably?
if you don't share equitably the other side will start having war.

if there isn't enough water, the side that vcontrols the water should agree to fnding an alternative source of water with less water.

it's called sharing. the zero-sum approach will never work because you're both too big and powerful for a winner-takes all. the only way to survive is through joint cooperation.

>Pakistan - India similar to france - germany
LMAO pakistan isnt a threat to us, it should be more like US and Iraq

The eternal anglo

>has nuclear weapons
>isn't a threat to us
cope

We know they won't use them, and niether will we. We would pummel them in conventional warfare, but thankfully that probably won't happen.

>UN resolutions
Memes. Pakistan doesn't accept the ones that favours india, and vice versa. They have no enforcement power or relevancy.
>2023
I wonder why it took 3 decades.