Was Islamic culture created by Turkics and Persians intermixing more relevant than Arabic and Berber culture?

Was Islamic culture created by Turkics and Persians intermixing more relevant than Arabic and Berber culture?

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define islamic culture

Probably yes, similar to the way Germanic invaders assimilated to their conquered Romance population.
Arabs had the religion, but the court culture is more Persian.

Did middle east even had any culture before the islam?
If they were sophistacted and rich in culture then how come they bent over to islamic barbarians with their backwards beliefs?

Collective achievements and set of social behaviors formed by certain group which follows religion of Islam.

1. arabs were mostly nomadic people but they produced tons of poetry since poetry was the main art that arabs enjoy

2.the ummayyad empire only lasted 100 years and it was dominated by arabs after that the abbassids (the ummayads cousins) went against them and made a new caliphate in central asia and they literally forbid speaking arabs within their rule in the begging and thats how they won the favor of all the non arabs under the ummayyad rule then they completely didnt let arabs take any place in leadership so that arabs dont have power to go against them(since no arabs liked the abbasids and favored the ummayads)

3.in real islam drawing any living being was forbidden but the islam that the persians and turks adopted was a little relaxed so they both made drawings and stuff like that

>Did middle east even had any culture before the islam?
is this bait
>3.in real islam drawing any living being was forbidden
I'm really curious about this. Why is it so?

But do you think Turco-Persian version of Islam was more known than Arab one in Western world before 20th century? 1001 nights is one of most famous works and most stories have Persian or Turkic protagonists.

Romans? Persians? Various Bronze Age civilizations? Even the Arabian Peninsula had a tradition of poetry before Islam.
what do they teach you niggers in school

>I'm really curious about this. Why is it so?
they say because it insults gods creation but idk
i dont know much about the wests point of view
though i always though 1001 nights was pretty cringe and there is so many actual arab stories and poetry that dwarfs anything like that
but then again arabs never really cared to share their culture or produce things for westreners to consume mostly arabs are muslim and only interesting in sharing islamic literature and chose to keep arabic stuff for themselves...

>they say because it insults gods creation but idk
Thank you, I wanted to know the theological justification
is it still a thing in Arabia?

Yes. Southeast Asian Muslims are heavily influenced by Persians than by Arabs.

>is it still a thing in Arabia?
yes people still consider it a sin just like music but we still produce music and art and now people dont get offended over it like we used to a few decades ago

people would think we are backwards to only start doing these things now but you have to consider most people in arabia were still nomadic people a 100 years ago and they still kept producing poetry as their main art too

I mean Ottomans were the main representative of Islam for 500 years up to 1920s so they were direct contact with Islam to West and Ottomans were direct product of Turkic and Persian culture. I mean Turkics bred with Persians for 200-300 years before they entered Anatolia so they exchanged a lot in that period.

Your country and culture are amazing. The more I read about them the more I fall in love.
I really wish I can visit it somewhere in my life

Bruh

thank you anone
its easy to dismiss our cutlure since we didnt have much architecture or art
but to me our poetry, traditions and lifestyle was our main strong points
true also there was always tention between arabs and turks from the begging so the definitely arent a good Representative

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Terrorism? Kebab?

Eh. SEA is the only Muslim region besides Arab world and Africa that didn't get a lot of Persian influence.
Everything Persian in our culture is secondhand hearsays or legends at best, and the court culture of Islam was mutted with Indic influence by the time it came to our lands.

>Did middle east even had any culture before the islam?
dude..

youtube.com/watch?v=KZQRW4Ch2ng

Riding camels in the desert and drinking their piss is not a culture

The Prophet (swt) and his contemporaries and a little after that were the only relevant Arabs.

Two major reasons was the halt of Arab expansion. The Arabs were stopped in the East in India and the West in France. After this followed a set of rebellions and regime changes and finally the Mongol invasion was the final nail in the coffin.

Arabs are at heart, traders, not warriors. The warrior race were Turkic nomads. These nomads conquered Persia, and became Turko-Persians. They then moved into India and kept attacking it until India fell apart. They also moved Westward into Byzantium and eventually the Turks ruled from Balkans in the West to Bengal in the East. The power of the Solar descended Turkic race was unmatched for centuries. And it was due to these Turks who held Iranian culture in high regard did Persian culture flourish and Persians were given noble positions in their empires like Mughals, Ottomans, Afasharids and so on.

>Arabs are at heart, traders, not warriors.
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and our expansions only halted when we went so far away that a large portions of our armies come from lands nearby and not arabs

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Yeah slave traders

jews literally got kicked and humiliated from every corner of the world
you only got accepted by humans when you started manipulating media
i would shoot myself if i was a jew

Not a Jew retard

i dont remember asking, cuck.

Islam is a religion not a culture. That being said, sure Persian culture was extremely influential during the middle ages. Mainly because Turk nomads from central asia would adopt it when they conquer and settle in civil societies (e.g. India, Iran, Middle East, etc...)

I understand that the 1001 arabian nights is part of western th western canon and is only read in the west, what is some actual arab literature worth reading?

for me its any of these poems en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu'allaqat
i dont know how is the translation in English though i love reading them in their original form..

slaves, incense, pearls, gold, copper, salt, and pretty much everything was on the medieval market.

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Reading arab poetry in 2020 is the same as reading Shakespear in 2020, pure schizophrenia

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>ITT muzdogs

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Is it true that the people that went to see baby Jesus were from Arabia?