1. Your country

1. Your country
2. Do you have people like this in your country?

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Yeah, whites

That basically describes every white western leftist.

Why are white people like this dominating the media so much?

Liberalism a cultural byproduct of capitalism

Because they are harmless for the bankster elite of the world

Only thing that would make them be persecuted was if they talked about nationalism and social class

That's not liberalism, it's straight up leftism.

nordic antifa will be stomped out by alt right latinos soon

Wdhmbt

Anyone who is not racist towards foreigners is naive.

Yes

Yes, you can usually find their faces under my fist >:)

Based

Yeah, they mostly exist on university campuses and urban centers though.

That's not liberalism. Cope nu-commie.

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No it's liberalism alright. Notice the lack of class or economic discussion in the description of the term. Like the hue said

Then true leftists don't exist beyond extremely tiny fringe groups on the internet. The vast majority of self-proclaimed communists and socialists of today are obsessed with woke idpol.

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Essentially all western socialists and communists endorse this "woke" SJW shit though. There are only some far fringe groups (like CPGB-ML in the UK) which still endorse old school Marxism-Leninism and avoid identity politics nonsense, but they have precisely zero influence.

If socialism ever does come to power in the west, it WILL be through laughable groups like and stereotype, who will simply argue "we need to overthrow capitalism to ensure a better future for POC and LGBTQI++ peoples". Every commie I know personally is like this. Even the ones calling themselves "Stalinists/tankies" are invariably autistic trannies who Stalin himself would frown upon.

USA
yes, especially among millennial and zoomer democrats and lefties

Based comrade, sadly our times are over

>democrats
It's fucking depressing what's happened to that party. Someone among the Democrats needs to have the balls to kick out all commies, socialists, Berniefaggots and SJWs and go back to the politics of LBJ and FDR.

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>kick out all commies, socialists, Berniefaggots
>go back to the politics of [...] FDR.

Pick one, dumbass.

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considering most people here are not part of the establishment, it's always confusing why the majority here likes to shit on other misfits.
most of those smash the patriarchy types mean that the dominant form of power structure is rich males dominating politics and finance and womens only role is being a wife, still some neckbeard always feels the need to defend that as if he was some CEO himself
i dont get it

>he thinks social liberalism and a welfare state = far-left socialism
Can't tell if you're a cuckservative or a coping Bernout retard, but either way, you're retarded.

Socialism will come via economic pressures providing a voice for socialists. I doubt it will be these voices that carry over the conversation in the "west". I mean if you want to whine over red liberals be my guest. Ultimately the rest of the world will orient itself to socialism and west will be playing catch up if that's the case. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

baizuo here
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>welfare state = far-left socialism

Yes, you fucking retard. Does only a classless, moneyless, stateless society fit "far left"? What a moronic purity test. Don't forget to breathe.

We do

But these freaks are relegated to college campuses. Any form of marxist rhetoric is met with condescending disdain for the most part.

Yes
For some reason a lot of them lives in Barnaul

>known socialist otto von bismarck
Eventually you have to step back from American brainwashing

>it's always confusing why the majority here likes to shit on other misfits.
You think people like the guy in the pic are the ""misfits"" of modern day society? Pffffff
>and womens only role is being a wife
In Morocco maybe

The woke crap will invariably be part of the current year socialist agenda which will be a deadweight that alienates white working class people. The LGBTQ+ shit also alienates non-white immigrants and muslims so as long as socialists keep pandering to gays, trannies, and blacks then you're not going to see socialism take over as you seem to think is going to happen.

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>Socialism will come via economic pressures providing a voice for socialists. I doubt it will be these voices that carry over the conversation in the "west".
It absolutely will. There is no room in the western left for anyone who questions extreme pro-LGBTQI++ politics, or anyone who disagrees with critical race theory bullshit that deems "white people bad" as the answer to every societal problem.

Part of this is the consequence of polarisation. You're expected these days, particularly if you're young, to pick one of two extreme sides. You can either be "le epic nationalist trollman who hates niggers and jews" or you can be "SJW commie who blames capitalism and white people for anything". If you stand anywhere in the middle and try to argue that we shouldn't have racialised politics at all, or that capitalism is a flawed but reformable system, then you get shit on and called a traitor by both sides. There are no more big tents in politics, you either have to agree with 100% of the programme or none of it.

@132651542
enjoy your chicken tenders while il0luminatis divide et impera you

Why would I shit on a rich CEO for being a white male when I'm a white male?

Please learn to read.

Speak for yourself, I’ll make it mandatory for every right-winged fucker to be castrated immediately under the Revolutionary Socialist Federation of the United Republics of the Americas.

pretty sure its a manly girl.

Even if he were what would that have to do with anything?

Well said, bröther

The "west" isn't the world. Like I said, the consequences of that simply means the west will be end up playing ideological catch up others orient themselves to capitalism. In actuality it might be a good thing because it will tie up western capitalists domestically so they can't muck up the process for everyone else.

Themselves away from capitalism*

mexicanon, xhe is wearing an ironic shirt about how white ppl are terrorists because they're allegedly more violent than natives defending their own country.
did it go over your head?

>the west will be playing catchup
>to socialist countries
do retards really

a whole bunch of these in Helsinki and old communist circlejerks.

Yeah I dunno, the "pure" commie canuck seems to think the whole world is orienting itself towards socialism despite not having any arguments to support such a claim.

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>tf
>tp
If you still feel like you're going faster it's because you're heading downhill

do americans really

I don't get what you're talking about anymore. Are you defending him or making fun of him?

>132652348
Thank you for showing that you had no interest actually discussing things in good faith.

>support such a claim.
Literally everyone seething over the fact teenagers and college students are supporting communism.
This is the state of blindness

Teenagers and college students grow out of it when they get older and start making money.

sounds like toronto

I wouldn't have a problem with them if they just weren't so fucking ugly

in the US they think the definition is the same as what the boomers think, which is in reality still capitalism. zoomers are just dumb and need to grow up and learn the real definitions

No they don’t, they get support socialism even more, it’s like you live under a rock or something.
Literally the only people that “grow out” of communism are Twitter LARPers and 12 years olds thinking higher taxes are socialism.

LBJ and FDR were basically Berniefaggots, and would today be smeared as communists by the Republican party.

Parliamentary politics is far more rightwing now than it was for most of the 20th century due to a hyper-reactionary shift in politics that began in the 1970s in response to the US losing economic dominance over the first world, military dominance over the third world, and the obedience of the American population when new forms of militant labor activism emerged in the 1960s. The political consensus was (and still is) that resources have to be shifted away from the American population and towards the elite so they can remain competitive with the rest of the world. You can't have government doing things for people anymore, services should be provided by corporations (who in turn are heavily dependent on the government financially). The population shouldn't have a safety net, the safety net should be reserved only for the wealthy. Government should be nothing other than a piggybank for the private sector.

The social liberalism that we've seen is mostly compensation for the destruction of labor power in the western world since the 1970s. Labor unions and labor activism were indispensable to the rising standard of living and rising wages seen in the US in the first 2/3rds of the 20th century. With their destruction there's been a stagnation of wages and a declining standard of living for the general population (with a catastrophic decline in areas that were formerly centers of manufacturing). The fact that business attributes these problems to everything other than the collapse of labor unions in the 1970s should tell you where the money is and what they're afraid of.

So you make concessions to the population on the periphery. Gay marriage, more women in the workplace, etc. Anything other than allowing the population to form organizations that will allow them to assert themselves politically and have any sort of control over the economy.

Norway
They exist, but they rarely stick their heads out in fear of being scalped. Besides, riots just don't happen here.

You can't convince these guys, they simultaneously claim to stand outside society but also thinks everyone agrees with them. Discussion is pointless, history will play out like it does but knowing ones can see the winds shifting since 2009.

>Literally the only people that “grow out” of communism are Twitter LARPers and 12 years olds thinking higher taxes are socialism.
That's the majority of modern communists.

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neither nor, im saying why would you make fun of him, if you yourself are in a sense similar to him, just in a different flavour. comprende?

too long dont want to read

Still capitalism is sort of a stretch user, pure capitalism hasn’t existed since a long time, what is happening is that little by little politicians have had to make socialists concessions to not let their people fucking die of poverty.
Public schools, labour unions, healthcare, etc. Are socialist policies.