Why do they hate each other?

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Self hatred

France is the only western nation with the balls to stand up to Erdogan's bullshit.

God bless France and fuck this orange turd in America for not helping the French and Greeks.

everyone hates roaches but themselves
they hate us for we aren't bending over like turkmoney

Kneejerk moralism aside, there is absolutely nothing to be gained for the US in helping deepen the Franco-Turkish tensions. On the contrary, it would be detrimental to US interests.

Because they're the only two countries with genuine regional power in much of the Mediterranean (Italy is the only other semi-relevant party in this regard), and they're basically competing to determine who will become the dominant regional power. So far Turkey seems to be winning.

Ignoring the problem and pretending there is none is not gonna help either especially since Herdogan is basically calling for muslims internationally to suicide bomb in France.

>turgay
>more hard power than italy
you're in real life, not in your grand strategy video game, their shit is like 40 years old

Why are you making things up? Macron and Freunuchs are monomaniac crackhead wannabes, just fuck your laicite. I know you guys are non-believer degenerates but it's not that hard to respect believers, that's what Erdoğan just mentions this. Things are beyond this topic, Macron confusing real world with age of empires, he is no different than Incels daydreaming all day about being the next Hitler of a militarist elegant society. Roleplaying to be dominant will not work,anymore. France is not strong enough.

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We liked them when they were Ottomans, but then ataturk came over and destroyed everything. How can one not hate modern turkey ?

God bless

if other european countries had balls Erdogan would fuck off but they are too scared to help greeks and us

Turkey single-handedly prevented Haftar from conquering Tripoli, and set him running with his tail between his legs. Turkey is also single-handedly making the Azerjannies reclaim Nagorno-Karabakh, and also swiftly took control of Kurdish positions in Syria. Moreover, they're still funding Syrian rebels, who despite everything continue fighting against Assad. Clearly Turkey is a genuine power, like them or not.

>allows anarchic shitholes like Western Libya to kidnap our fishermen
Italy has 0 (zero) international power or relevance.

It is a long story but it started by barbary pirates.

their economy is pretty much in free fall though

Well we hate Germans so... you know what I mean

Bless France for being the first country in history to do something about that issue other than occasional naval bombardments on Tripoli and other pirate havens.
Reconquer Maghreb. Genocide Nafris.

>Turkey
>Winning
user, I...

Indeed, but their situation reminds of Russia in a way. Economy in shambles, but it doesn't matter since your average vatnik doen't mind being wretchedly poor if it means they can have cool missiles and bomb parts of Syria. Likewise, your average çomar will likely continue supporting Sultan Erdoğan even if the economy is in shambles, because the aforementioned Sultan is successfully projecting Turkish power in places like Libya and the Caucasus.

We have no relation to Europe whatsoever, it is none of our business what goes there.

pfffff

>el sarcasmo de la atrocidad

Is this kind of military prestige very relevant for the common Turk and the popularity of Erdogan?

i came here to watch some Zig Forums tier shit...

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France = property, civilization, progress
T*rkey=barbarism, stupidity, t*rks

>France = property, civilization, progress
good joke

Tears of joy will flow down my face when your shithole country is glassed by Macron and Putin.

at least we dont behead people here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I will never understand this
Being irrelevant like Slovenia, Iceland or New Zealand is very comfy, while being miserable AND relevant is the worst possible combinationf or me

kurds say otherwise, roach scum

>combinationf or me
combination for me*

still, i have never seen a beheading pierre

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He said people

Turkey had less terrorist attacks than France. something to consider

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you really should behead the sultan though

TVRKEY doesnt have a sultan and it will never have one

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oo what is economy tho is it something flying around within clouds?

Socioeconomic affairs and military are totally two different stuffs. Most of the high-end,high iq engineers here work for companies working for military.

Our economy got fucked up due to conflicts around the borders of turkey and refugee crisis. We just don't let refugees to stay homeless on streets like how westoids do,trying to provide some livelihood to them,they will probably be traitors one day like kurds though. Anyway, Turkey haven't been able to pay it's debts due to these external and internal crisises, probably we will probably get into state of deleveraring after 2028 because Europe did not want to look after these millions of people, deceived us and let us down. You guys think you are humanitarian angels but once somebody in-need occupying your comfort zone, you guys start to chimp out. So hypocrite

yes for at least 50% , the other 50% are split between sojboj liberals, kurds, secular nationalists and "erdogan fucked me over" conservatives unable to work together though so it doesn't matter what we have to say. the problem is the strongest opposition party is cucked beyond recucknition and would basically bend over for any foreign power if erdo was to be deposed
erdos supporters will be happy when he bombs arabs and yells at euros and when he fucks up they blame the jews & the west

pay up roachboi
or macron will send the denbts collectors
*backed with our shiny new eu army

iyi party is having a turmoil and chp is cucked... what do we do... iyi party was the hope... why...

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We don't care about Turkey but the watermelon seller needs distraction from his shitty government

consider unraping your women first sven

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TKP is the only option?
>işçi_marşı.mp3

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cope
seethe

aye it's also just one big election ad

Don't need to
I'll have your sister for a cheap whore in a decade

>cope
>seethe
why do ppl who hate Turks look like this

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