DAU.
Is there a more ambitious project in kino history?
Jaxson Watson
Brayden Sullivan
>it’s another Vietnam War movie about how badass Americans are and completely omits American atrocities
Joshua Hughes
>ignoring the fact that Captain willard point blank executes an unarmed combatant
>ignoring the fact that Colonel kurtz literally describes how he uses war crimes to strike fear into the Viet cong that the Americans can't do through their relative lack of brutality
Also Captain Willard is an SF dude. Sure he commits war crimes but intelligently and not blatantly like the Mai Lai guys. The type of units that carried out war crimes were typically units with long ass deployments (18 months+) that had a fuck ton of draftees with no selection process. LRRP units, SF units, any units with higher standards avoided giant massacres like Mai Lai even if some of them they did carry out systematic torture like Phoenix group.
John Russell
I’m just baiting, I haven’t seen Apocalypse Now in two years
Henry Lopez
They massacre a boat full of innocent gooks at one point. Can you for once watch a movie before you shit on it?
Christian Hughes
These are all good answers
Both Herzog's Fitzcarraldo and Aguirre deserve a mention, they weren't ambitious in terms of an enormous budget and resource pool, but in what went into making the films. Shooting on location in the Amazon, wearing suits of armor while riding shitty rafts down raging rivers, towing a steamboat over a mountain, the amount of times people almost died, etc. Probably the most ambitious undertakings by an independent filmmaker not really attached to a major studio.
Carson Ortiz
Alright /film/, where and how do I start with this?
Michael Morgan
Maybe in movie history but not in kino history.
John Richardson
Yeah Fitzcarraldo would be my choice if we're looking at non-independent films. For mainstream studio kino though Apocalypse now was pretty fucking bad. it had actors getting typhoid, heart attacks, and overall dealing with horrible conditions in the philippines. At one point a typhoon completely destroyed the set and stopped production. Plus you had martin sheen losing his fucking mind (intro scene was him legitimately getting absolutely and actually cutting himself) along with dennis hopper coked out and losing it as well. The BTS documentary was actually pretty solid if you want to see a studio's nightmare for a big budget project.
Brandon Baker
The Russian version of War and Peace