Is China turning into North Korea?

>nooo military do music
every east slav and central asian do this to but they're hardly north korea tier

The Chinese are currently slaves to the CPC and this is propaganda that promotes their leadership of China.

>The Chinese are currently slaves to the CPC
In what way?
>and this is propaganda that promotes their leadership of China
It promotes ethnic unity and the CPC guiding China to national rejuvenation

this is boomer tier propaganda. Does zoomers in China actually watch this?

You're obviously Chinese.

They promote ethnic "unity" by brainwashing everyone into being exactly the same rather than trying to convince people differences are ok (because having everyone be the same makes them easier to control). They're slaves because they have no say in the government, so the Party can do whatever it wants to them, and it does.

>in what way
I think he sincerely believes that american concepts of identity and desires are universal to all humans, and that the chinese communist party is merely suppressing this "natural" state.

>They promote ethnic "unity" by brainwashing everyone
Brainwashing how exactly? You're saying things that you can't prove btw
>into being exactly the same rather than trying to convince people differences are ok (
Alright you're retarded and don't actually know what ethnic unity means
>They're slaves because they have no say in the government
Except the fact that they do.. do you know how China's democratic centralism works?
>so the Party can do whatever it wants to them, and it do
Who do you think the party is made up of?

you dont have any real say either, in the end we're all poorfags shitposting our irrelevant opinions on a chinese cartoon enthusiast forum

it always was
they were just trying to put on a fake smile to get invested by you stupid westerners

>China
>democratic
Nice try, Chang, but your country isn't democratic.

I know you’re being ironic, but this is actually close to the truth. The Chinese value social harmony and unity over individual freedom. In essence, you are free if your people are free (against western imperialism in this case). Keep in mind that the Chinese and Russians never had liberal values like Europe did after the French Revolution.
Taiwan, SK, and Japan didn’t either until they were pressured into it. Singapore still doesn’t either. So liberalism is very much a eurocentric thing.

My tucking God
What is democracy
How do you think Xi even came into power?
Do you think he walked in and said
>I'm in charge now nigggggers!!!

Also China isn’t democratic in the liberal sense (no universal suffrage) but the way it works is that citizens vote for local worker council representatives who vote for higher level representatives who vote for congressional representatives who vote for the politburo who vote for the general secretary etc. And only party members who’ve passed an examination (similar to the old imperial exams but socialist) can be representatives.

Yeah but that's what I mean. The fact that Taiwan, the ROK and Japan adopted liberal values and institutions from the Americans shows that the cultural relativist defence these shills give of Chinese "social unity" (read: majoritarian collectivism) is bunk. They aren't inherently that way, given there are ethnically Chinese people right now in Taiwan and Hong Kong who don't want to live that way. This conformity is imposed on and then perpetuated between them by authorities, they didn't "choose' it.

Chinese propaganda is so much better than Western degenerate propaganda.

I for one cannot wait until the West gets raped and falls apart.

China has been doing this for 4000 years and they are still around and powerful while all other antiquity empires either collapsed or turned into shitholes. Chinese culture is inherently “authoritarian” and collectivistic, there’s no way China will ever turn democratic

Do you realise how retarded any comparison with North Korea is as long as Mainlanders are allowed to travel outside of the Mainland?

The General Secretary is chosen via internal politiking in the Politburo, there was no vote, wtf you are you even implying Chang?
I don't consider having only one party to vote for a useful "democracy". 'Oh yeah you can vote, but there's only one party' - meaning there isn't really a choice being offered.

Tell that to

"China" is a geographic area, not a state. Many empires have existed in the area known as China, the idea China has existed continuously as a civlization for 4000 years uninterrupted is pseudohistorical bullshit.

Democracy is a scam, works great as India shows.

Nah man I think I'll stick to my hypothesis that the chinese have evolved to act as a servile hivemind.

I got you bro

Do you realise how retarded any comparison with North Korea is as long as Mainlanders are allowed to travel outside of the Mainland?

still the CCP has all of the real estate assets and they aren't allowed to move from where they live without permission

kek

They were different dynasties just like the Ruriks became the Romanov or how the Valois became the Bourbons, it has and will always be Chinese as the Han has always been the majority, England didn't sieze to exist due to Willian the conquer or the Dutch retard.

Technically that’s true but Chinese people don’t see it that way. Also this argument can be said for almost every country in the old world. Was Novgorod republic Russia? Was HRE Germany? Was Ottoman Empire Turkey?

Don't bother arguing with yuros, Kim. The organizations that they worship (the WHO, the UN, etc.) are controlled by China. They're Chinese vassals and they don't even know it.

>The General Secretary is chosen via internal politiking in the Politburo
The General secretary is chosen by the National people's congress who also chooses the political buro
Why are you so retarded that you have to make up shut
>there was no vote, wtf you are you even implying Chang?
Jesus christ

Sure they did. They chose it by siding with the CCP. They chose it in the past by siding with whatever imperial dynasty was in power.
The point is that western liberalism is not the be-all, end-all of political systems, especially when a people aren’t acculturated to it. If the Chinese people want it, let them decide on their own; do not impose it forcefully. It isn’t biological, sure, but Taiwanese and Japanese today have very different values from the 1940s. This was done through decades of social engineering across multiple generations. Taiwan and South Korea for their part made gradual transitions fairly recently and under careful guidance.

Suppose you forced China as it is to undergo the same changes as Russia or Eastern Europe in the 1990s. They’ll immediately elect the most far-right, nationalistic, revanchist leader possible. Or in the worst case they’ll just collapse into a bloody civil war. You need to instill liberal values over time. But you can’t force them imo.

The Chinese genuinely like their system because it works for them right now. A blind Harvard study showed that the vast majority of them were pro CCP. To take that away from them is chauvinistic at best, imperialistic at worst.

> I don't consider having only one party to vote for a useful "democracy". 'Oh yeah you can vote, but there's only one party' - meaning there isn't really a choice being offered.
Yeah, it’s not a liberal representative democracy. But look at it from the Chinese perspective. Why allow laymen to vote for the president? Or congress? When instead you can let experts do it and trust them to make the right decision?

Again this is a direct continuation of the old Confucian exam system.

>don't consider having only one party to vote for a useful "democracy
Are you so retarded that you think having multiple parties to vote for is democracy
Do you not know what democratic centralism is?

That literally has nothing to do with the topic of the thread (propaganda)
also nothing wrong with limiting the movement of people, do you want millions of people to flock in the first-tier cities without a job?

taci bestia che hai un pisello al posto del cervello

England is a geographic area, not a country. The Anglo-Saxon Kingdom that existed there before the Normans was not the same as the Norman one that replaced it.

We have a habit of conflating places with states, as if the fact they're in the same place implies they're all the same, but they're not. No one would claim the current state controlling Italy (The Republic of Italy) is the same as the one that did 2000 years ago (the Roman Empire), but people do make the same claim about China even though it's equally stupid.

Only officially. In reality the Congress is a rubber stamp committee that approves whatever the Politburo has already decided on.

Nice try, but no one believes your lies, Chink.

>Keep in mind that the Chinese and Russians never had liberal values like Europe did after the French Revolution.
communism is literally the highest expression of the ideas of the french revolution. already at that time many realized there were 2 problems in society: the political, meaning the desire for a republican government over monarchy and the social problem - the economic plight of the masses. europe and america only went as far as attempting to solve the political problem by establishing republics. social problem went unanswered until china and ussr made their attempts.

>nothing wrong with limiting the movement of people
>the whole point of his argument was mainlanders being able to travel abroad
stopped reading there

No I'm quite aware that our state will choose chinese money over retaining any shred of integrity.

Too scared of a reply to insult me in a language I understand you little bitch?

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>. In reality
And how do you know this?