Will SMTV be like Apocalypse?
what was apocalypse like?
VN haremshit instead of GARshit.
Will SMT V exist?
No, if anything the last trailer gave me an impression of a mix between Megami Tensei and SMT1, with the Protag and Heroine having some very heavy Nakajima and Yumiko vibes, and the contrast between modern and post-apocalyptic Tokyo.
Middle ground between SMTIV and Persona.
sounds bretty good
Persona except all of your party members are irritating and awful with the only exception, ironically enough, being a pompous douche.
You know that Apocalypse showed none of the heavy friendship and waifushit it pushed in game on its trailers, right? The SMTV "trailer" we got ultimately amounts to a tech demo anyway. There's next to nothing but rough area concepts and themes being shown.
It really is. Especially as a foil to SMTIV which tried to be a little too faithful to SMT1 and 2.
It's kinda like DKC Returns vs Tropical Freeze.
WE ARE FIGHTING DREAMAS
>You know that Apocalypse showed none of the heavy friendship
Did you play the same game I did?
Asahi is the best Atlus girl
That's the question, isn't it?
what are you smoking, it had way less dialogues than IV and gameplay was extremely fun
Last trailer?
There’s a new one besides the Odin redesign?
She easily became best girl after she was eaten alive
Apocalypse is for simple-bitches.
If I wanted to play a railroaded, braindead RPG I'd be playing final fantasy.
Dagda was unironically right. Having a universe in which a human becomes God whilst still being a bitch-ass messiah and a Godslayer all at the same time is a 900IQ option.
If you didn't kill your friends then can you really say you love them enough to give them the best life?
Hope it will be like Nocturne.
Stop pretending that the story of Apocalypse is worthy of your attention.
It's shit, just like every SMT story. Except characters have personality and interact with each more this time.
SMT1,2,3 and 4 have more simple and braindead combat than Apocalypse.
>The SMTV I want
Apocalypse mechanics and QoL features
Nocturne difficulty
Law and chaos routes that aren't objectively BAD END
More than one neutral route, one of which is bad
Cameos from SJ and DS characters
Single unified art style
>The SMTV I fear I will get
Nocturne mechanics and QoL features
Apocalypse difficulty
Law and Chaos routes are bad endings
Neutral route is atheist fedora tipping "good" ending.
Featuring Joker from the Persona series.
Mara is day 1 DLC.
Schizophrenic art style.
Stop downplaying the validity of killing your friends for the good of the world.
good gameplay but the characters and story were utter inane weeb garbage. They got rid of the "bitter" and pessimistic themes of SMT in favor of retarded anime weeb "WE WILL DEFEAT EVIL WITH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP-U~~~~"
>Featuring Joker from the Persona series.
>Persona except all of your party members are irritating and awful
So Persona except you can kill them.
No such thing as a good Chaos end. You cannot have both unlimited freedom and a good end because the concept of Chaos only brings instability and conflict.
SMT was always about retarded plot armor of the MC being a reincarnation or a messiah. This time that plot armor is just friendship instead which is better because the characters get more fleshed out instead of being cardboard. Also, you can go down a route where power of friendship is subverted.
>Comes with some of the best melee skills in the game
>two insta-kills that trigger often, making encounters and reinfocements far less annoying
>has debuffing and piercing attacks to help with bosses
>Melee assist that compliments a Mag-MC perfectly
>Her attacks pierce
>doesnt need bitch-ass demons to kill things
>WE WILL DEFEAT EVIL WITH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP-U~~~~
The fuck they did that? We already have cringesona for shining bonds bullshit.
>the characters get more fleshed out instead of being cardboard
The characters were still cardboard cutouts though; the only two who underwent any meaningful growth were Navarre and Gaston.
I like how DDS handled the plot. Serph was a good protagonist. The ending was awful ngl.
Yep. It's fucking embarrassing. All the characters are garbage tropes too
>Apocalypse difficulty
>bad
I would unironically kill someone for the chance of every boss in V being at the same difficulty level as Stephen or YHVH
Not that user but Asahi actually gets good development if you revive her as your Goddess from a story development perspective.
You die at the start, get revived by a God to save Asahi and then spend the game bending over backwards to keep her safe.
Then you get to the Anarchy end, she dies, you revive her and then she spends the rest of her time bending over backwards to keep you safe.
It's perfect but requires you to play the game on the rails that Atlus set for the characters.
I didn't even mention your precious combat.
You people act like ANY SMT game isn't trivialized by years of learning all the demons and their affinities through osmosis. The greatest combat system in the world can't fix that for you.
If you were an actual fan of the combat you'd be demanding more novelty, not holding up a sequel of a sequel that reuses damn near everything of its predecessor.
>DUDE SO EDGY IM A BADASS GODSLAYER LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEE
You're literally the same as personafags and their power of friendship obsession.
They put that route in to quell edgelords and, apparently, it worked like a charm.
I'd prefer some actual subtlety once in a while.
>it's P5 engine and the battle is just as stylish
friendship route literally features talking shit to YHVH with the party to fuck him up.
He said the friendship faggotry wasn't shilled in the trailers, not that it wasn't in the game.
>SMT was always about retarded plot armor of the MC being a reincarnation or a messiah
Nanadhi is both of those, they felt the need to tack on the "friendship" plot armor on top of that which is what makes the peace route so downright embarassing
worth pointing out that the demon gene fucking everyone over in the long run is a good enough reason to say the peace ending is a bad ending
Learn to read,hes saying that wasnt shown in the trailers
>demon gene fucking everyone over in the long run
I missed whatever this is, can I get a rundown?
SMTIVA should have had Thorman
>They put that route in to quell edgelords and, apparently, it worked like a charm
>Imagine being this dumb and thinking that this is the only game in which you kill your friends.
It's a shame really. I wish SMT1, SMT2, SMT3 and SMT4 let me kill my friends. It would make those games way better.
Some of them were, but it's refreshing to see actual characters interacting and developing in an SMT game instead of being stoic edgelords. Especially since these games have so much dialogue anyway, might as well give them personality. Apocalypse is far from well written but I would prefer its goofiness over the previous cardboard trash where robotic talking heads would spew vague nothings at each other to make pseuds wank over it. It's just a better experience overall, but even if the characters weren't Apocalypse has better combat and bosses anyway.
>They put that route in to quell edgelords and, apparently, it worked like a charm.
I'd prefer some actual subtlety once in a while
Not him but I prefer neutral endings. I'm not bad or good I'm just a retard.
>Law and Chaos routes are bad endings
>Neutral route is atheist fedora tipping "good" ending.
>Featuring Joker from the Persona series.
>Mara is day 1 DLC.
These would be the only things that'd prevent me from getting V.
You can kill your friends in Nocturne. They're clinically insane but hey.
I'm about to start SMT4 just so I can play SMT4A just for this bitch. Wish me luck.
The whole game is actually a subversion of the power of friendship. Your friends are basically parasites, which the demon residing in your head points out over and over again. And if you DON'T kill them, you don't save the world. You accomplish nothing. YHVH's dead, but nobody in the game said he couldn't die - the problem is that he never stays dead, and that's a big enough problem that a group of demons basically built a gigantic lifeboat so they could take humanity and bail on the universe to create one where YHVH couldn't exist and he wouldn't genocide everyone over and over.
The Divine Powers state that fighting YHVH directly is pointless. The White state that fighting YHVH is pointless. Dagda says fighting YHVH is pointless. The Bonds route where you defeat YHVH with ~*The Power Of Friendship*~ accomplishes jack shit because you've just killed him, and done nothing to stop him coming back. Meanwhile, the Massacre route where you kill your friends and use their souls to complete the Divine Powers plan of evacuating the universe on humanity's terms rather than theirs is the only ending that ensures that humanity won't be genocided for a fifth time.
tl;dr the power of friendship stuff is a trap. If you're dumb enough to fall for it you've accomplished nothing and doomed humanity. It's also deliberately meant to be irritating so you'll be encouraged to kill them and save humanity.
It's explained in DLC that the citizens of Mikado are genetically modified by the archangels. They have a special gene in them that turns them into monstrous cannibals if an archangel is near, or they culturally devwlop past a certain point. 90% of current Mikado populace has it, which is why when lillith passed out books in 4, they turned into demons. In the 4A DLC, the entire fucking city turns into a demonic hellhole
Don't be afraid to use a guide for sidequest.
Killing your friends has never been new to SMT you filthy secondary. It's always been done as "We're at irreconcilable differences in terms of our goals, and in order to accomplish what we want someone's going to have to die"
Hell, even spinoffs like DeSu has that shit.
user, my friend. I was being sarcastic. You kill your friends in every SMT game. It's a time-honored tradition that all you friends are assholes/dead.
>Apocalypse difficulty
how the fuck is it bad, it's the best balanced SMT where you feel challenge at all levels