Be honest Zig Forums, have you ever been guilty of vidya backseating? You ever find yourself beyond frustrated because someone wasn't playing a game the way you think is correct?
Should you tell someone how to play vidya, or should you shut up and let them fuck up as much as they want?
Depends on the kind of game. In a co-op game it's usually better to bring fellow players up to speed. In a single player game I prefer letting everyone make their own mistakes. Though sometimes the temptation to spoil shit gets real strong.
I only give advice on gameplay basics. I feel I've enough experience with vidya to judge what can be considered backseating or spoilers. But I usually ask if they want any tips first anyway.
this game sucks
I would ordinarily agree with this but sometimes it's hard, like when someone walks past an incredibly obvious interactable that's required to progress the level six times over the course of half an hour, it becomes really annoying.
>DMC1 sucks
Why, because of fixed cameras and Space Harrier?
It gets super annoying, yeah. Fucking up the same part for the third time is usually when I start to crack and offer some not so subtle hint. Then I'm ashamed of myself for lacking self control. Lose/lose situation right there.
I've watched tons of people play vidya I'm already familiar with, even before Interwebs was a thing of the common people.
I was practically a map-reader co-pilot as a kid. I hate myself for doing that now. These days, I fully encourage people to think for themselves, and only remain as a silent observant, curious to see the multitude of reactions and behaviors folks can have on a same situation.
The linear puzzle-games are still very nerve-wrecking.
DMC1 is still one of the greatest games ever made.
>Why, because of fixed cameras and Space Harrier?
what? no, it's just too fucking easy, i got bored after the big bird boss
In this case I usually feel like it would be better for me to stop watching altogether, because I have low tolerance for stupidity. If someone cannot or refuses to learn the game, then watching further would only lead to frustration. So I'd rather do something else.
>I was practically a map-reader co-pilot as a kid.
That's a rather unusual but interesting way of looking at it. What kind of games did you play?
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I did this too, but that was less yelling at people how to play and more me watching a friend play and me suggesting advice, but that was generally when neither of us had played the game before.
That would make sense but if it's a friend then it can be awkward. This has happened to me back in the times when people still came over to play vidya together.
That's a first, never heard that complaint before. I guess it's not too challenging on Normal but it gets better on harder difficulties.
>What kind of games did you play?
Little bit of everything, but I practically walked couple of my friends through Ocarina Of Time and the early Resident Evils.
In a hindsight, I honestly don't know if said people would've had patience for those titles, seeing how gladly they were being dragged in a leash.
is it mental illness or paid shilling?
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Not that user, but I was the advisor and map reader for Dynasty Warriors game, as I was the only one among my group of friends who could somewhat read English and knows that it's more efficient to mostly ignore the soldiers and just focus on the officers.
I really want to see some chuuba trying out musou games even though I know those games are a lot more fun to play than to watch, and I'd probably be annoyed at the way the chuubas play.
Oh, I thought you meant games that were actually designed for the kind of meta co-op play, when the second person is required to read a paper manual or something. Kinda like that bomb defusal game.
Slow and steady*
I only help out if they seem to get lost or confused and suggest places to check out, usually something they missed in the dialogue or a tutorial but other than that I don't really
I only ever do it if someone feels absolutely frustrated to the point where they honestly need the advice to attempt to enjoy the game. That or attempt to prevent an issue from happening later down the line, which i usually end up just giving a lie as an excuse.
Also fuck your v tuber shit, but I'll at least admit your necro loli has a nice design. Thats all you get outta me
Nah, I'm talking about late-90s golden age, when we were ~10yo. Yes, I'm an oldass Millennial.
I'm honestly glad that I grew out of that habit quickly. Later on, I could speedrun through our favorite games for alternative endings and such if asked, or give a subtle hint or two if things started to look desperate, but not literally monologue an entire walk-through of my own to the person.
Be honest OP, you wanted an excuse to post V Tubers.
One time I was watching my friend play Silent Hill 3, I went from chill observer to backseat gaming to straight up taking the controller and playing through the game myself.
It wasn't that he was going the wrong way or missing a key item, nor was he dying. It was just the overall way he played that was somehow so wrong to me. Not checking where he needed to go before entering a door, not avoiding mobs the right way, a ton of little things that made his entire way of playing the game so alien to me that it was grating for me to watch.
So strange, normally I'm not that fuzzed, but this was just so "wrong" to me that I couldnt handle it.
I figured. But I thought maybe kids in the first world got their games in fancy cardboard packages that came with printed manuals and shit. Not the chink knock-off cartridges like we did.
Not that guy but we did. It was pretty neat reading out manuals for a friend while he was playing.
I've recently been playing hunt with a bunch of friends who just picked it up and have had to supress frustration at bad plays/loadouts they've used. Biggest example is just a general lack of awareness which has lead to them getting killed and I have to fight duos/trios on my own. It's irritating but at most I've just said something like "You need to move up a little I'm struggling here". I don't want to get angry at a game or tell people to play games properly, and even when a shootout if over and I'm the only one still up I'll tell them they did a good job while I pick them up.
>it gets better on harder difficulties.
it doesn't matter because i have to finish the game once. dmc1 also happens to be the only game without any cheat codes, so i HAVE to finish the game on normal
>I thought maybe kids in the first world got their games in fancy cardboard packages that came with printed manuals and shit.
I'm essentially a 3rd worlder (by its OG meaning), and yes - we got legit cases and manuals.
However, the point of the manuals was pretty much just to give the games a rough context + teach the controls, not spell out the optimal way through the games. For that, you had to buy / subscribe to gaming magazines, or know where to buy strategy guides (and, at the time, speak English).
>trying this hard just to get a vtuber thread
>dmc1 also happens to be the only game without any cheat codes
Really? I remember getting gameshark shit to work on it which I would've thought wouldn't be possible if it didn't have cheats built in somewhere.
>tfw recently realized I only ever beat DMC on Easy, because I was a scrub, and thus never saw some enemy types at all.