GOTY 2021

GOTY 2021.

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I just hope there will be no game breaking bugs.

Maybe. Maybe not. If you continue to push it so hard, it might actually be total failure since release will be plagued by threads from people who got hyped to stratosphere by constant posting like yours and get mad when game, well, just exist since past some hype point, nothing matters anymore.

I don't expect much myself. It probably will have forced pre-made companions with terrible stats and penalties for using custom ones so it already will be max 8/10 for me. Premade companions are worst.

Give me Valerie!

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She was shit. As character and aa party member. Fucking charisma on fighter, please. Wasted points, nothing more.

It makes me laugh when skellies have hair. Like they're devoid of flesh except for the scalp for which to hold their flowing lochs.

Fuck, I desperately want to play kingmaker but I can't wrap my head around the stat system. I like to make my rpg characters as I go along but I feel like this game really requires you to plan your character ahead of time.
So far what I've been able to learn is that the flanking traits are strong

>tomboyish fighter
>not a virgin, won't stay with PC if romanced

Hard pass.

No!

Seriously? D&D stats are pretty straightforward. Google for Kingmaker + Neoseeker, it have page with example optimized builds, read up and you will be fine in no time.

Just remember that:

>dex is good for everyone as it gives reflex saves, AC and can be used for attack rolls with right trait and for damage rolls with another or for Rogue class
>likewise nobody want con under 14
>core stat at 18 is what you want for each character but sometimes its better to keep it at 17 and upgrade later during level ups since you might need those points elsewhere (dex/con)
>you either max AC or you don't, there is no middle ground
>Scaled Fist use Charisma bonus to AC so it synergize well with classes that fight in melee and use Char for something else
>Char is actually dump stat for most classes that dont do social stuff or use it for spellcasting
>Paizo have approach "20 levels in single class" so you can safely stick to your core one and still be fine
>pets are great in Kingmaker. Sylvan Sorcerer, Druid, Ranger, Cleric with Animal domain and Inquisitor or Barbarian subclass have those and it helps greatly
>if in doubt, Eld Scion with single level in Scaled Fist is easy and very powerful build in campaign for MC

Do not give me puppy murder nonsense anons! Do not! No! I do not want Camellia nonsense anons! Do not! No! Camellia is not wife anons because she is puppy murder nonsense anons! No!

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Thanks I'll try some of this out.

>undead or ghost characters
>green and blue colored

how original. doesnt bode well for the game.

>20 classes
>3 sub classes each
>6 prestige classes
Oh yeah, can't wait for the sequel to Kingmaker. A game using the amazingly accessible Pathfinder ruleset. You only have to read 4 books to cover the basic class/race combinations. You can basically jump right in!

Dude, minmazing and party planner is half the fun with D&D. That's why premades are killing the fun.

Trannyfinder ruskie shills in full force these days.

>so whats the difference between these 2 sub classes?
>well this one gives you +2 to this ability instead of the other one and you get -1 to-
>really?
>you also get...no, that's actually it. yes.
half
the
fun

Just play the way you want to. I had zero background knowledge and only my hardened gamer senses to guide me and I managed to play just fine

considering no one played kingmaker and so dont realize the game will be packed with cheating AI and require min/maxing micro management up the ass
im going to have a good laugh at all the remorse/kistune porn threads

What!

Yeah, no difference between core Alchemist and Vivisectionist, no difference between different Sprc bloodlines, no difference between 2h Fighter and Defender, between Eld Scion and Magus...

I can tell that D&D is not for you, it's okay, go back to your Mass Effect or other simplified games...

>All of the best/interesting archetypes will be taken up by the NPCs with inflated/Optimized Stats

You don't have to read any books, it's not that complicated and they have tooltips too. On the other hand what if we lived in a world where games were not allowed to have any depth so they appealed to the broader low effort audience. That reality would suck.

Maybe in an MMO it would be like that, comparing classes based on damage output from simple mechanics.

No

Kingmaker was pretty easy considering some newbies that struggle with D&D 5e still played it on normal and challenging.

Unfair difficulty was doable too but it was less about min maxing and more about making qualitative choices. Such as whether you have reliable CC or if you rather go the route of attrition against enemies that have higher stats than you. If you could figure out that simple question then any difficulty was approachable.

>lich standing against a demonic invasion
>implying such a high level lich himself ain't a far bigger threat

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is it really you? I haven't been posting on Zig Forums for 2-3 months, just wondering if you're still at it

Eastern monks = FAGS

You will have fun in wrath.
It's 25 classes,with 6 archetypes each, plus unique race archetypes wit h3 extra races. Not counting multiclassing and prestige classes, that like 187 options to play a pure 20 level archetype

Learn as you play you mongloid, evwn if you gimp your entire party at the 20h mark you can still make an entire party or mercs to carry your bitchass mc through the game.
Or just start over utilize what you have learned and feel some tangible growth as you roll over what used to be difficult encounters.
Not that what i say matters as those who bitch about the game are 9/10 times: salty larianiggets, tourists who refunded thinking the game was an arpg, contrarians and shitposters.

Most lichs do not measure up against Demon Lords, but by the endgame, they will need a crusade against you

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>Kitsune is winning the poll right now


NO NO NO RATBROS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TIME! I WANTED TO PLAY MY PLAGUE RAT ALCHEMIST

Nobody is an arcanist, slayer or alchemist and the ranger is not a freebooter. The cleric is not that optimized either

oh yeah sure the character that can get 30+ AC before level 10 is shit, not you.

Such limited creativity for character building

I'll never understand the contrarians, the tourists sort of have an excuse, but for the contrarians you would think they could play a game they actually like.

Even the lich from the first game almost managed to fuck over an entire country.
I dread to think what a demigod lich can do in comparison.