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Overall how did you enjoy fighters pass 1? What are your hopes for this one? What do you think they should do the same and do differently?

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Joker and Byleth were shit. So was Plant.

All I can say is Byleth was certainly one of the most anti-climactic choices to end it on.
And I liked Three Houses a lot, but Byleth is pretty shitty as a character, just being some near-silent autist insert that is even worse than Robin/Corrin as the player insert.

banjo and byleth were the best
hero and terry are okay but i'm tired of fucking meter gimmick characters
joker is a legit waste

should have swapped byleth and banjo's reveal order, ending the pass on a wet fart was just shameful. i also would have preferred if byleth was overhauled and had the three house leaders as well as three whole movesets too
if minmin is the standard for pass2 then its going to be really fucking underwhelming, either compromise picks for trophy characters that should have been in the fucking game to begin with or just generally limp first party choices.

I got suckered in when they announced B-K but really I only liked them and Terry, shoulda just bought them separately.
Not gonna get Pass2 unless they announce some cool guys, MinMin is fine but when's Travis/Wonder Red.

Terry was the only good one, Banjo was just OK. Screw the others

You know say what you will about Fighter Pass 1 but at the very least it had at least 1 character everyone liked
>That's something I guess

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Banjo is a resource gimmick too.

Love Hero and Banjo, Terry is okay, Joker is cool but annoying, Byleth is bland.

I would have enjoyed it more if Ultimate had some fun shit to do beyond fighting it out, I miss board the platforms and break the targets, I spent hours on that shit even Race to the Finish

Now I'm stuck with shitty controllers that cost 80 bucks to replace that drift and stick all the time ruining any attempt at a dash

A floaty slow gameplay style that makes the matches feel like they go on forever

A bad classic mode that auto scales with eery battle
No more Trophies
A shitier version of the Subspace AND Smash4's weird board game mode

I'd of rather'd Adventure mode again every time I play this game I feel like I'm working instead of having fun. Smash has become less about the game itself and more about whose in it and has been like that since Brawl

Plant > Hero > Banjo > Byleth > Terry > Joker

Jokers reveal was nice, but he’s most boring to play out of the 5. Hero was better than expected, banjo was decent, Terry is the most soulful and fun to play and byleth is byleth. I kinda hope they won’t do basic bitch choices with this pass though, it replaces surprise with expectancy.

Banjo>Joker>Terry>Hero>>Plant>>>Byleth
Loved all of it except Byleth but she turned out to be fun to play. Bought fighter pass 2 the day it went on sale. Absolutely stoked for Min Min

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I liked all of them
I also clicked with none of them

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>Couldn't get Rex
>Rex Mythra and pyra are one of the fighters this time

That much is certain, After that it's shill picks again, you better pray Nintendo doesn't have another Fire Emblem game ready to launch next year

Silly user, the shill pick this time is gonna be a Pokemon.

The pass was excellent, with the only real weak addition being Byleth, who's still okay.

>the guy who got made a 25 dollar dlc costume and has already lost relevancy to shulk again is certain
Fucking lol

Welp at least you enjoyed them to some capacity. I don't kno if that really means anything tho. I hope that you click with the Min Min or whoever the next 5 fighters are.

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I only bought Terry. I bought the second pass because I won a $35 eshop card and literally nothing there interested me (I already have MK8DX and Ace Attorney, the other games that interested me I can just pirate on my pc).
Let's see if it was a waste.

It started off great with Joker, stayed steady with Hero and Banjo coming at once. Started to nosedive with Terry and hit rock bottom with Byleth. I'm expecting the same deal but without the high points. Just middling characters followed by a trash pick and a shillmon.

Terry was pretty neat but I couldn't make myself care about any of the other characters.
I still have my old N64 with Banjo Kazooie+Banjo Tooie and I never understood the massive push or the appeal of getting them into Smash

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i loved hero and banjo, and it was pretty great overall, some of the most fun newcomers since brawl........ and byleth

Was Terry that exiting for most people? He's probably the first time I've been completely confused by who the character is since I saw Marth and Roy in Melee. I knew almost all of the characters in his reveal video besides him.

you dont need to be usin wonderwing that much in a match, maybe like once or twice in a stock at most.

Back in the 90s King Of Fighters was a very well known fighting game franchise up there with Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Virtua Fighter, and Tekken.

Banjo was based, everything else was boring weebshit that I didn't buy, but I'm happy for nips that they finally got their DQ rep. And spics for getting hat ken.

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Banjo > Hero > Terry > Plant > Joker >>>>>>>> Byleth

Pretty good first wave of dlc, only meh pick for me was Byleth who just was a boring pick with a series with so much potential like FE, didnt care much for their moveset either.

Looking forward to what Fp2 brings, i think minmin is a good start, and i honestly wouldnt mind if the pass was more focused on first party, i think they got a bit shafted so far in terms on new additions.

More character variety, first, second or third party
Also some new modes, honestly don't really mind if you have to pay for some

Idk, I'm a spic who barely played Fatal Fury but I did play a lot of Garou, KoF 98 (or '00 I forget) and Metal Slug at a local "maquinita" at least once a week.
I knew who SNK was and I was excited. The 50 songs shit, cameos, Terry's moveset, all of it made me want to get him.
Meanwhile
>Fucking hate all things Persona, despite me only liking japanese games
>Never cared about DQ, hate all medieval shit
>Never cared about the GUHUH bear, grew up as a kid with B-K and Conker, Space Invaders, Paper Mario and SM64, even back then I hated Rare's games due to how slow and slippery they felt; literally only played the Mario games
>Shitleth is as shit as Shitrrin back in 4. Shitty paid ad for a shitty franchise.

Subspace Emissary > WoL >>>>>> Melee Adventure Mode

Exciting? I wouldn't say so. He got a pretty mixed reactions. I just think them including more characters from prominent fighting games is pretty cool. personally I want Scorpion or Subzero next

i dont care much for singleplayer in smash but i would absolutely pay for break targets (with a stage for every character like melee)

What pose would minmin make?

Probably this 1

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Based and westernkino pilled.

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I didn't like it because of power creep and gimmicks. The characters they picked and their aesthetic choices were fine to great. I don't really find the overtuned aspects of them very fun. They are all tedious characters to play against in their own way, even if most of them are middling if you are willing to be patient and gay them out.

loved it. i love smash ultimate. i'm super excited to see who the rest of pass 2 will be.

>tfw said I'd gladly accept a FP1 of 4/5 more anime swordies if it meant the fifth was Banjo
>we got Banjo with three animeswords and a fightan rep

Good enough for me.

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Banjo sucks but the rest were okay, 4/5 isn't bad.

I liked terry and that was about it

i dont banjo, terry or byleth are too hard to deal with
Joker obsly is top tier and he can be annoying
hero has some bs but can be easy to deal with if you are careful

Plant doesn't count.

Considering what it is, it forces the player to dance around the fact that he always has it on deck. I wouldn't mind if the weak hit wasn't so damn late. Why should I get full-forced by an attack that started a second ago? I am actually disappointed that banjo ended up a weirdo zoner instead of something closer to a no-gimmick brawler which the game desperately needs more of.

I only liked Joker and Banjo.
Hero and Terry, I'm completely indifferent.
Byleth can fucking die.

Not bad, but they went full retard by announcing and releasing Byleth last. They should have swapped her with Banjo and she would have had a much better reception. People lose their shit extra hard when the last character in the bunch is underwhelming.

Forgot to mention all the online Joker fags and Banjo "Lemme press B and down B a bunch, then bait my online unreactable invincible flare blitz" Kazooie made me hate the characters even more.
Like, before, it was a "meh" and now it's an actual seethe, cope, dilate, etc etc.

Even if they did one prefer franchise would be nice
I want a boss rush like Brawl. Add 8 to 10 bosses, and give it an extra hard mode like the Kirby games. For example, in the normal mode you fight Akuma, in the hard mode you fight Shin Akuma

I don't care he's just as shit.

I don't really play any of them that much, but I enjoy casually playing as Banjo and Terry. Also my friend mains Banjo, and I find him to be a really satisfying opponent. I hate the other 3 (especially Hero), but overall I feel it's worth it.

Also I would hate to not have access to all the characters.

What would be the best hypothetical fighting game rep?
>Heihachi with Tekken input commands somehow
>Scorpion with his OG fatality as his final smash (without the blood of course because this is a Nintendo game)
>Nightmare with a Siegfried SC4 alt

it gave me Banjo and Erdrick plus a fun secondary on Piranha Plant so It literally perfect, Terry was a nice surprise, Joker was a wild pick but nice I guess, Bayleth was expected so i'm not mad over her/him

I been thinking Fulgore would be the most fun fightan character they can add. Nightmare or someone from Arcsys would work too

Oh god no more commands.
They barely work online and compared to Ryu's commands in 4, Ultimate somehow made it a shitfest to pull them off.
I consistently get a reversed Tatsu when I try to do a full run>true tatsu for whatever fucking reason, and with Terry trying to do geyser online turns into a bunch of missed cracks or burnings, sometimes a wolf comes out by mistake...

There is a difference between thinking something is too good and thinking something is annoying or not well-designed. Terry having sword legs and auto-combos means that your best option is to not engage him. Also he has a silly comeback mechanic. Banjo has wonderwing which can be extremely punishing if he yolos at the correct time. This is compounded by the fact he does well by egg camping and poking. His damage output is too low to make him menacing but wonderwing forces the player to respect Banjo a lot more than otherwise. Byleth is YOLO and has several moves which kill extremely early or shieldbreak like crazy. Slow as balls but it's just silly to play against. Hero's gameplan is to run away and hope to lame you with RNG. These are all poorly thought out mechanics just like limit was for Cloud in 4, just like Bayo's combo system was in 4. Characters like Rosa (ultimate version) are examples of good interesting design. Characters like Little Mac are bad design.

a lot of people find him annoying but i think a good banjo can actually be pretty fun to fight, they can keep you on your toes and force you to think carefully rather than mash

For my money I'd take Shao Kahn or Goro. Nightmare or Yoshimitsu would also be based, and a KI rep would be nice since they were Nintendo's own first foray into fightan. Heihachi has always been a lame old boomer and should fuck off.

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