Still just as bad as it has been since release

>le can't play multiplayer game online in global lockdown faec

Epic. I feel bad for people who are actually dumb enough to pay for this "service"

don't you have a movie to play alone user?

They are only upset because EVO had to be online, otherwise they never cared

Majority of “”””PROFESSIONAL SMASH PLAYERS””””” are getting their asses kicked and are instead blaming the Wifi

>The amount of people saying party games

Melee fags really in full force today

>blaming the Wifi
As they should because it's fucking shit and I can't understand how anyone could defend it

What is the issue with online?

Switch owners and especially Smash players still make me laugh. It's like purposely opting into the worst video game experience out of all of the available devices to play video games on because it had Mario and Smash Bros. Every person I've ever met who actually takes competitive Smash Bros seriously has been a fucking cornball of the highest caliber.

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>ip count doesn't go up

>18 replies
>13 IPs

Pc players laught in Ultimate, enjoying Melee's superior online.

hopefully they won't be forced to shut it down, playing melee that smoothly and online looks really cool

>Smelee
Kek

Probably because Ultimate online is laggy as shit

I don't even think it's Nintendo's fault in this case. Splatoon 2, ARMS, and MK8D all have online that's just fine. It's Bandai Namco, as they don't know how to implement online for shit. It took them forever to add rollback in TEKKEN 7 and even then they didn't add it in right. Not to mention SC6 suffers from the same problem.

youtube.com/watch?v=c5YzfYLkn-A

This is just 3 minutes, there is plenty of other stuff on Youtube, twitter and what not

The only reason for Nintendo Online is Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and that is old as fuck now.

>literal half a second delay
>players rightfully complain and question their games
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE JUST MAD YOU LOST STOP BLAMING NINTENDO STOP STOOOOOP

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>Online issues suddenly become a problem when people have to play tournaments through it not and not when it first released
Why

>being such a newfag you dont even know about the lack of dubs

people are just really uneducated about online in general. The Switch will never have great online because 99.9% of the players are using Wifi and the Switch has a fucking terrible wifi chip.
Netcode can only do so much to hide that, and for games where every frame matters it's basically impossible, especially if it's more than just 2 people playing.

>Implying nobody ever complained about the dogshit online in ultimate before corona

I play in person with friends so I don't care

Rollback would make playing with wifi shitters tolerable. Works on slippi just fine.

Lmao Nintendo keks actually have to pay garbage for garbage online
Pathetic

Didn't a couple of retards like Esam shortly after release claim that online is actually fine and you shouldn't complain so much? Wish I could find a tweet or something.

Is the problem usually one sided? It kind of sounds like something that might be caused if they give one player authority on everything except for inputs, but then one player would not see any lag.

It’s irredeemably bad, I like Ultimate but Melee online is so much more enjoyable even when I’m getting destroyed

It's pretty terrible if people think playing online through an emulator with an EU vs NA connect feels better.

More to the point, have these stupid #AddAPoundSignAndRepeatAdNauseum campaigns ever actually gotten anything accomplished?

Esam is a retarded spammer that gets carried by the best char in the game. He keeps losing to the same chars like ness and peach not because the matchup is bad, but because they invalidate his mashy playstyle and his autist brain cant get it through his fucking head that spamming back air and t jolt wont win him the matchup and that he actually has to play neutral.

I don't have a lot of experience with rollback, but wouldn't it be kind of jarring in a game like smash bros where movement is more freeform than other fighters?
Like you could be juggling someone and they input drifting left, so the game has to rollback your hit into a miss and the positioning completely changes right?
I guess i should look into the melee rollback to see how well it works. any idea if there are any videos of people playing melee online while using shitty wifi? because i can't imagine most people savvy enough to set up playing melee online would be playing on wifi.

Switch's wireless chip is awful. i've been sitting in the same room as someone doing local play and have had the connection drop, when we're like 8 ft apart tops.

Having some minor inconsistencies with gameplay/jittering is infinitely superior to the game playing at a sluggish 14 frame delay under the best circumstances and turning into a fucking slideshow at worst. Also for FFAs the average casual will care about the side effects of rollback even less because as it stands FFAs are unplayable online like they always have since brawl.

Pikachu is the best character in Ultimate? I thought people usually said Joker or Palutena. I genuinely don't know

Statistically it's joker, people just take leo's opinion as fact even though he's never lost to a pikachu.

I can't believe smashers are the only people left on earth who are non believers in rollback. They couldn't ALL have been trolling right?

I don't think rollback works well for more than 2 players.

Hes lost to esam before. All top players agree pikachu is AT LEAST top 3 in the game.

Delay doesn't work at all for more than 2 players. It hardly even works for 2 players.

alright, but what about major inconsistencies with gameplay/jittering? shit wifi is shit wifi, and it's hard to believe any amount of netcode can mask how bad it is in a game where everyone needs to be synced up.

well when you haven't experienced rollback it sounds like a fantasy miracle cure. Like "oh there's this magic netcode that gives you negative lag" like that shit Stadia was trying to pretend they had.

Joker is the best, Pikachu is up there, Palutena is just the most braindead top tier that gives most reward for the least effort (so the character Zero would main were he still playing)

I still to this day cannot see the point of owning a switch, the number of good exclusives can be counted on one hand

I'd concur with that. No comment on Smash, as I never play it online. But I still remember how bad Dragonball Xenoverse and the God Eater trilogy were even on Steam.

Prior to a shitload of patching, Xenoverse's raids would have giant fireballs fall off the screen and either detonate and wipe raids or endlessly fall into the void, making the events unwinnable. God Eater would get stuck at the sync screen after hunts were completed, and the rest of the game wouldn't load until the host disconnected. Only the host got credit for the run.

tl;dr--I think Smash's risible online conditions are a combination of what and said about the Switch's terribad Wi-Fi chip and Bamco being bad at netcode.

wifi only gives you a 3ms delay compared to ethernet, not even close to the problem

>ultimate already has bad input lag made worse by online
>and shitty lag means that defensive lame bastard play is even better online
>this is the only way ultimate will be playable until 2021
>all competitive momentum will be halted and there will be an entire year of just shitty ultimate and a few dlc characters that won’t change anything
>meanwhile Melee gets full on rollback netcode that results in great feeling online play even on toasters
how the fuck does melee keep winning? It isn’t even fair at this point.

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