Deus Ex

What are they going to do with the series?

They still haven't addressed Adam's backstory as a genetic test subject and the Illuminati working to get rid of him so that no one can continue their research to give humans free control over their augmentations and they can continue keeping everyone on Neuropozyne.

I never played Mankind Divided but I really think they fucked things up with the anti-aug terrorism and internment camp crap. How are they supposed to link any of this to the original Deus Ex where almost everybody is totally decked out with augmented gear?

It's really depressing to know we'll never get a proper sequel to Human Revolution.

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>I never played Mankind Divided
>It's really depressing to know we'll never get a proper sequel to Human Revolution.
regardless of what i think about the state of the world in MD, you're being a full retard here

You should play Mankind Divided
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the illuminati isn't trying to get rid of Adam anymore, if anything they want to expand on that front given certain secrets in Mankind Divided

user did you play the original?
there were only a handful of mechs and they were salty because their augs made them rejects

but how can they profit from it and tighten their grip on the world by giving people more freedom?

i heard it was bad so i stayed away from it. i actually own it but i was too disappointed after reading the ending.

i didn't play the original deus ex

user play the original for fucks sake
or at least wait and see if they do a remake or some shit

you should really play it, it's good but it ends abruptly
i don't consider the plot nearly as exciting as HR's but the gameplay and the world building are really good, you're depriving yourself of good fun

>to give humans free control over their augmentations
Control over what? What the fuck does the Illumnati gain over controlling people's augmentations? So they can turn everyone into murderous killer zombies at the press of a button? Yet nobody wonders why augs have that functionality.

The whole story is so mindnumbingly retarded. Why would you want a continuation of that?

>didn't play Deus Ex
>didn't play MD
Jesus Christ, why even talk about the game you humongous faggot

>i don't consider the plot nearly as exciting as HR's
How is HR"s plot 'exciting'?

In Deus Ex you go on a globe-trotting journey that ends up changing the very nature of not just society, but even humanity.

In Human Revolution you...visit a bunch of warehouses and offices and deal with some trannies worried about their cyberlegs.

>top hub of hengsha got cut

Wish they'd had more time on HR.

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You like dx but you didn't play MD? What are you fucking retarded?

there are no trannies in Deus Ex, shut the fuck up about them for a second

augmented humans need to take neuropozyne or their body will begin to reject them. The Illuminati in control of the pharmaceutical companies can charge whatever the hell they want for it.

They had 5 years. They were just too incompetent. They couldn't even render something as basic as a helicopter taking off in-engine, and had to use pre-rendered cinematics.

>thumbnail
That's some guro porn shit, what the fuck square enix

They are looking at Cyberpunk 2020 to feel out the market. If it's a hit then they'll follow up with a sexual. If not then not.

And how does that amount to world control? It just means humans won't install augmentations in their bodies.

Did IO Interactive buy the Hitman license from Square Enix? I don't see any developer willing to do the same for Deus Ex

>If it's a hit then they'll follow up with a sexual
Man, I hope so

You need augs to compete in the market place. You choose to be slave to the illuminate or a hobo.

Listening to the dev commentary wasn't the issue mainly that their engine was a piece of shit that made even simple things take longer than standard for the industry?

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IO was an independent developer who created Hitman in the first place. Eidos MOntreal did not even exist asn independent developer. Square created them to make them work on IPS they had acquired like DX and Thief.

You... you fucking idiot. How can you even form an opinion when you've only played the one fucking game and not even the original?

The absolute state of newfags on Zig Forums.

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Okay, but that's still on them. Nobody forced them to use that engine. DIshonored came out around the same time, had much more complex level design and mechanics, a much smaller budget and just used Unreal Engine.

They're going to remake the original but worse in every way except the graphics because that's all the game's industry seems capable of these days.

1. Drop BLM crap bullshit themes, it's getting so fucking old and they did it twice, new themes, especially from original Deus Ex, would be great
2. Drop the shitty camera switches, make it tps or fps
3. Large Hitman style maps with maybe a hub city

A realtor can just as easily buy an edge by impressing clients with a $200,000 supercar and having $16,000 tailored suits made, but they don't, because it's not cost-effective. In reality augmentations would cost tens or even hundreds of millions. We're talking about insanely intensive surgery that only a few places can perform, a product that is basically science fiction and is powered by magic, is built on a computer performing operations unheard of today requires you to spend your entire life relying on anti-rejection medication that is very expensive and only produced by one company in the entire world. Normal everyday bullshit prosthetic limbs today already cost millions.

And for what? I can't think of a single augmentation in the Deus Ex games that was used to make people smarter. They improve your physical capabilities, and that's it. Your IT guy, your programmers, your university professors, your STEM nerds, none of them are going to be replaced by augmented folks. Everyone just has cyborg legs and arms.

Even a superhuman cyborg is still going to be more limited than what a forklift or SpaceBot can do. Your cyberlegs aren't ever going to be able to replace a 10k. The motherfuckers who work at LIMB aren't even augmented. It's a robot that does all the surgery, not Edward Cyborg Scalpelhands.

Cybernetics would have the largest application in military and maybe extremely hazardous industrial applications (like deep-sea welding or astronauts). Beyond that, who the fuck is going to get millions of dollars worth of augmentations and a crippling life-long dependency on a drug just so they can carry beer kegs from a delivery truck? And even if they did, are you really going to have riots in the street because all the cyborgs took the beer keg carrying jobs?

Real shame as what we got was pretty good and more would've been even better.

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Drug dependency aside the idea is that augs aren't expensive.

>They're going to remake the original
They wouldn't dare.

>IO was an independent developer who created Hitman in the first place
Yeah, part of my point was that IO had this special relationship with Hitman since the beginning. No company today has the history with Deus Ex that Ion Storm used to have

Reminder that we could've gotten a Thief like this, but you tards started sperging out and we got Thi4f instead.

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What tards? That Thief was cancelled because the company was closed down, retard.

Imagine being such a cum-guzzling, cock-sucking Eidos Montreal fanboy that you blame the fanbase for Thi4f, when they actively made fun of that fanbse in the months leading up Thi4's release.

Yeah they definitely made the wrong engine choice, pretty much every ten minutes of the commentary someone is mentioning time constraints or engine limitations.

>in the Deus Ex games that was used to make people smarter. They improve your physical capabilities, and that's it.

Not entirely true, there's books in HR about developing augs for better memory and also the social aug that lets you influence people with pheromones which features in one quest where a broker had to get it to be able to compete in the market.

I love the look of hengsha so much.

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Then why is there a black market for augs if they're that cheap?

> How are they supposed to link any of this to the original Deus Ex where almost everybody is totally decked out with augmented gear?
Why not just come out and say that you've never played the original Deus Ex?

>organ fails, get transplant, have to take anti-rejection medication forever
>lose limb, get cyborg limb, have to take neuropoz
same shit really. Plus there's tons of ex military people with augs who also contribute to the starting population.

>there's books in HR about developing augs for better memory
And is anyone actually shown to use it? Does that aug exist in the game?

>also the social aug that lets you influence people with pheromones which features in one quest where a broker had to get it to be able to compete in the market.
That's social interaction. What about augs that make you a better scientist?

Modern thief could be fantastic, damn

'Cuz there is always a black market for those who have no legitimate means for acquiring them. Trade regulations, restricted components etc etc.

>I heard it was bad
The irony is slapping you in the nanoaugments

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Honestly, the idea of a black market for augmentations cropping up at all, much less only a couple years after augmentations were even introduced, is just dumb. No underworld entity is going to waste time and overhead on such an insanely costly, risky, easily-tracked and niche market. You have to have black market neurosurgeons, black market medical machines, you have to somehow be killing enough people to steal their fucking limbs (note: killing people means you're more likely to be busted, not less), and all of this for a target market of poor people, meaning they don't have much money. That makes absolutely no sense.
Plus, they apparently have to be getting their limbs from people who paid market price for them, which means millionaires are going to be disappearing. You think nobody is going to notice that all these augmented people are disappearing, and an unemployed gangbanger asshole suddenly has a new million-dollar arm?
There's no black market nowadays for artificial hearts and prosthetic limbs, so the idea that there's even remotely enough of a market in the future to be harvesting cyberlimbs is laughable.
Top it all off with the fact that Neuropozyne is expensive. Do you seriously believe that augmenting prostitutes for a niche fetish is cost-effective?
I'm sorry but the entirety of DX:HR's game logic completely collapses if you even remotely dig into it.

There are literally augs in the game already which make you able to read social situations perfectly, and ones which cause your brain to be able to interface directly with computers. There are people discussing getting augs who are clearly not billionaires. Do you think the literal hookers in Hengsha are amazingly rich?

>i didn't play the original deus ex

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>same shit really.
99.99% of the augmented people shown in HR/MD are just normal civilians that never lost a limb. Why are you making shit up?

Literally this. There are no trannies in HR. You gotta stop obsessing about it, user. It's unhealthy.

he never asked for this

>i didn't play the original deus ex
>i didn't play the original deus ex
>i didn't play the original deus ex
>i didn't play the original deus ex
>i didn't play the original deus ex
OP, fucking kill yourself.

He probably doesn't even know Invisible War exists.

So why don't do the scientists at Sarif industries use those augs to do better research? Why is Megan Reed, the top scientist, not augmented? The motherfuckers who work at LIMB aren't even augmented. It's a robot that does all the surgery, not Edward Cyborg Scalpelhands.