Just finished it

Just finished it
My verdict is that the gameplay and design gave a step forward, while the story gave a monumental step backwards.
And no. it has nothing to do with having to play as Abby, as I found her sections more enjoyable and her to be a more likable character (even if it was kinda forced).
Overall, not bad, but a huge disappointment in terms of story considering the whole thing felt completely pointless and unnecessary.

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I wouldn't say monumental. It's not as good, but it's not like the story was awful or even bad really. Just kind of meh.

It was unnecesary considering the last game had such a good ending
And it was depressing, and not in a good way like MGS 3.
Every single character ended up way worse than at the beginning of the game. The whole thing just makes feel empty by the end, which maybe was what they were going for, showing you how pointless and costly revenge is, but a game is meant to be enjoyable and this whole story sacrificed a lot to tell very little of value

The writing, especially dialogue, is dogshit. Gameplay is fun, while repetitive.

Guys. I think I'm in love with her. And no. I'm not kidding

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your opinions are invalid because according to Neil Druckmannn, everyone that expresses their slightest concerns on the game are racist, anti-semites, xenophobic, transphobic pieces of shit.

The gameplay was slightly better, but the original wasn't that great to begin with. TLOU was always praised because of the story, it's why all those fags kept singing about it being an example of videogames as art. The fact that Jewmann decided to shit on the story was killing the only thing that made the game worthwhile in the first place.

All of those are unironically true about me, but I maintain that my opinion is still valid.

>The fact that Jewmann decided to shit on the story
Why did he do it though? He had to know the story was going to be hated and that he was destroying all the beloved characters from the previous game
What was his master plan?

My favourite part was when a stabbed, murderous lesbian savagely brawled with an androgyne psychopath beside an unconcious transvestite cultist in a boat.

>dogshit
No. It's just okay.

I feel the same way about the game for the most part. Abby was very unlikeable at first but I like her more when she became closer with lev.

Virtue signaling is both the journey and the destination. Jewmann hated Joel's toxic masculinity in the first one but couldn't do anything about it. After the first one turned into a megasuccess and he was rewarded with head Jew authority, his first act was to cleanse the series of everything he hated.

I think he wasn't counting on people outright calling the story out as garbage
He expected divisiveness in the same way something like New Vegas is divisive

It also helped that Ellie was completely out of character and behaved like a fucking psycho throughout the whole game

>GROW THE FUCK UP, STOP CARING SO MUCH FOR PIXELS YOU INCEL MAN BABIES!
>So i had this secret agenda, to stop the sexualisation of female videogame characters
The hypocrisy of this man knows no bounds

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>Jewmann hated Joel's toxic masculinity in the first one but couldn't do anything about it
Didn't he create the story in that one too?

Bruce Straley reeled in his retarded ideas. In the first one he was going to have Joel betray Tess and then some would become the villain, tracking Joel and Ellie down across the country. Druckmann unironically hates men.

>Druckmann unironically hates men.
Then why was Jesee such a likeable character?

So he could get shot in the face after finding out the woman that he loved abandoned him for snatch and is pregnant with his kid. Things end terribly for all the men.

So Druckmann's waifu could kill him and get away with it.

>Things end terribly for all the men
Things end terribly for absolutely everyone
The only ones that got a fair shake were the rattler prisoners you release near the end

Remember to report all shill threads.

>Joel gets beat to death with a golf club and dies in front of Ellie
>Tommy loses an eye, gets gimped and his wife leaves him
>Owen gets shot and watches his pregnant girlfriend get killed in front of him
Ellie loses a few fingers, Dina at best got a concussion, and Abby possibly got raped. They got off better than the men.

>OP says the story is a monumental step backward and the gameplay was only slightly improved
>Shill

>Drunk man calls her a dyke, later on apologizes and cooks her a steak sandwich (Bear in mind meat is a commodity in this world) as a peace offering.
FUCK THAT GUY HE'S A BIGOT!
>CUNT THAT KILLED HER FATHER FIGURE AND CLOSEST FRIENDS IN COLD BLOOD, THAT ALSO BITES 2 OF HER FINGERS OFF.
I forgive you, violence breads violence

Well if you consider the most basic, amateurish ,twitter tier writing "good" then i bet you'll love this little movie called "The Last Jedi"

>story doesn't make me feel good means story bad

Yara: Dead
Mel: Dead
Nora: Tortured to death
Lev: Forced to kill her mom and sister dies shortly afterwards. Also possibly raped

MGS 3 had a depressing ending, but it was very well done and conveyed deep teachings
This one just makes you feel empty

>story subverts expectations with shocking death means story good
why is so easy to cuck brainlets by simply flipping their idiotic arguments against them ?

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Yara betrayed her cult and supported a tranny knowing it would lead to her death.
If Mel hadn't reached for a knife she likely would have lived.
Nora called Joel a bitch and baited Ellie into it.
Lev was forced to kill his mom because he was a retard. His entire character was absurdly stupid and out of place.

>story subverts expectations with shocking death means story good

What? Are you refering to Joel's death? That is the set up for the story, how does it subvert expectations there are none at that point?

Nevertheless, the women had it as bad as the men
Every single character was the epitome of JUST...

>character at the beginning is different than the character at the end
whoa

>Character you play as for the second half of the game is the one that was supposed to be the final boss
I've never seen a game do this before, even if the execution was fucking awful

Except none of the women had it as bad as the men. The only man to survive is Tommy and he’s missing an eye, has a limp, is alone, and never got revenge for his brother’s death.

>showing you how pointless and costly revenge is
No. It is about dealing with loss.

Both Ellie and Abby are trying to deal with loss and they both think revenge will help them. It doesn't for either. Ellie just realises this before she kills Abby. Abby doesn't find this out until after she kills Joel.

>character at the beginning is different than the character at the end
>The most basic, amateurish ,twitter tier writing
Exactly, that's so basic it's painful.....

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>Dying, getting tortured and raped isn't as bad as losing an eye and getting a divorce
OK

It’s an aggregate you simp.

i hated abby for most of the entire game. but at the very end when you finally rescue her and force her to fight i felt so bad for her and dreaded the whole thing. i'm glad she was able to leave alive.

bravo jews.