Did the concept of aiming ruin shooting games?
In games like Max Payne 1 you just start shooting as soon as you enter a room. You don't have to aim.
Now, regardless of the perspective, aiming has become a part of every shooting game and it slows things down considerably.
RE4 is championed as the start of the modern third-person shooter and the one innovation the games that followed take from it is the idea that you have to stop and aim.
HEY, FUCKERS, WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM?
why is op such a fucking retard today?
You're right, OP. Videogames should be less engaging and play themselves for me. I should just be able to move forward and have the game do everything else for me. On second thought, the game should also move me forward. Pressing inputs makes my head hurt.
>Max Payne
>Don't have to aim
OP is retarded or a troll, likely both.
>I should just be able to move forward and have the game do everything else for me. On second thought, the game should also move me forward. Pressing inputs makes my head hurt.
You'd enjoy the playstation
>Did the concept of aiming ruin shooting games?
I'm gonna assume in good faith that by aiming OP meant a zoomed in ots/ads mode that you enter by pressing L1 as opposed to freeaim in max payne.
>In games like Max Payne 1
>You don't have to aim.
Maybe on easy lmao
Might have been a good idea to clarify aiming as a separate action and not just aiming in general. I definitely wouldn't say it's ruined them but it would be nice to have some more modern fps games where you can shoot without having to slow to a crawl pressing the aim button first.
>Max Payne
>don't have to aim
Can people play video games with their mind? Webm related is when you can't aim I'm video games.
nice reflexes grandpa
>boot up TLoU2
>put down the controller
>nothing happens
what did Zig Forums mean by this
Because consoles. Ever wondered why Quake never took off on consoles? The hardware is inept in terms of processing fast gameplay, not to mention the fact that using a controller with an FPS is like driving a car while wearing crutches.
No, only retarded fags hate aiming in games. Its seriously a telltale sign of an autistic sperg
op is retarded however everyone in this thread but one user is an even bigger turbo retard. its pretty obvious what op meant
>I can't believe I have to aim in shooting games
>you don't aim in quake
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>Black Skin
>PS2 port of resident evil 4
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You still aim in Max Payne, what you are referring to is Iron-Sights or Zoomed in aiming in which you would be right, that they helped degenerate the genres.
source so I never accidentally play whatever that piece of shit is
he means a dedicated aim button, like ADS or whatever where it slows you down
>Did the concept of aiming ruin shooting games?
No, it's just an abstraction of the walk/run button which shooters have had since Doom, "aiming" is endemic to FPS games since the earliest days of their inception.
>In games like Max Payne 1 you just start shooting as soon as you enter a room. You don't have to aim.
Max Payne only has 1 movement speed, I would argue that you move so slowly in Max Payne that you are effectively forced to aim all the time.
>Now, regardless of the perspective, aiming has become a part of every shooting game and it slows things down considerably.
This is not really true since player and enemy health are both very low in games that lean on this feature heavily, it's trivial to clear a large room full of enemies due to the precision and efficacy of weapons afforded to you in military FPS games where the same scenario in Doom or Quake would be a 2-5 minute pitched battle because you can't dish out anywhere near the effective DPS, sure you can maintain your maximum move speed while engaging and said speed is generally much faster than even the sprint in military FPS games but it takes much much longer to clear threats.
>RE4 is championed as the start of the modern third-person shooter and the one innovation the games that followed take from it is the idea that you have to stop and aim.
Very few games copy RE4's mechanics verbatim, particular when it comes to aiming absolutely rooting you to the ground, most only cut your maximum speed in half and virtually none besides perhaps Gears of War have enemies that are so hardy, and even then Gears is a very movement focused shooter despite it having an aiming and cover system.
Additionally RE4 is an action/horror/luchador wrestling game not a strict shooting game and therefore a poor example for your argument anyway.
I dunno, Destiny has ADS and its enemies are bullet sponges. There's loads of arcadey games with aim down sights now
>>Did the concept of aiming ruin shooting games?
>No, it's just an abstraction of the walk/run button which shooters have had since Doom
Except random bullet spread changed it from being a thing new players might do to help aim to something required if you want to hit anything more than two feet away. That's a pretty big difference in function.
Doom also had random, increasing spread.
Stopping at two nukes was a mistake.
it's a resident evil movie
weird how you only see pc mustards TALKING about playing quake anymore instead of actually playing it. at this point, i'm starting to think screaming about consoles and consolefags is just a tourette's-style tic you develop from spending too much money on overpriced PC parts.
Doom bullet spread isn't dependent on your speed or any specific aim key though.
and most of the weapons don't have any spread at all
I just got done watching several Jackie Chan movies and seeing the huge difference between Chan's fight choreography and the fight choreography that's considered "good" today is mind boggling.