Why don't you guys realise this simple truth?

Off the top of my head this is more what I see it as when thinking about games over all.

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You didn't even bother to run a spellcheck on this and you expect people to take you seriously?

Were you going to seriously pay me if I did?
Fuck off

If the chart is about Gaming Quality overtime shouldn't it only be ascending because all previous games (besides perhaps some them without functioning online components) are still playable. Not to mention that modern games are being made in an extremely wide fashion such that smaller devs and indie devs now make more tight oriented towards recapturing previous year's game style.

user I made it in like 3 minutes in paint for the hell of it. I don't even think paint has a spell check feature.

>its nintendos fault video games suck

oh that's snoygroid/xbot cope

>Were you going to seriously pay me if I did?
How does that relate to my post exactly?
>I don't even think paint has a spell check feature.
It doesn't. Let me give you two hints:
>plauged
>lisenced

The idea was more about the quality of the game's released around those years, not overall as a collective. And you're right, I'm mostly looking at console games and ignoring small indie devs, especially PC games. If I included PC games I would honestly have no idea what to do because the quality of PC games varies wildly and there's far too many PC games to count. In all honesty it would probably lower the quality overall simply because the PC has more shovelware than any other console combined.

It's not. I actually loved the Wii because it introduced me to some of my favorite game series. You would have to be very oblivious not to notice the horrendous amount of shovelware on the Wii, especially with infamous companies like Data design releasing the same knock off games over and over again with different coats of paint.

>Getting this upset at someone making a few typos
lol

>Shovelware isn't as common
Uhh, I am pretty sure that both the PS2 and PC had literal shit tons of shovelware in the 2000 to 2007 period, if anything they became less common in 2007 to 2012 and started back up with the Early Access shit

FTFY

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Nothing about showevare existing prevents you from picking out good games, it's almost impossible to buy a shovelware game accidentally.
Games have been getting better and better from early PS2 onwards.

Saying SNES games are even a quarter as good, let alone half, as PS2 games is an insult to gaming itself.

>blaming the Wii
i'd blame companies like EA for shitting out yearly iterations of the same game and destroying creativity through risk aversion and hoovering up every IP they could get they grubby hands on

>PC
Yeah you're right. I should have called the graph "Console gaming quality" because I was ignoring PC. Graphing PC gaming quality would probably be impossible to accurately represents because while PC obviously has great games, the amount of shovelware it has is absolutely unending, even around the early 80's with the Commodore. That's why I ignored it.
>PS2
You're right it definitely did, but I don't think it could come close to the amount of trash on the Wii or DS. Your comment does make me think maybe the score should have been a bit lower since now I'm reminded of all sorts of garbage the PS2 had, but I still think overall the quality of games was higher. Even shovelware around that time was typically better simply due to being actual functional games, unlike shovelware in previous generations like the NES.

I feel like if I just tried to focus on good games then the graph would just show how many games I like that were released in each year, rather than an overall idea of how good/bad the industry was.

I don't know what games you're thinking of, but a big reason why the SNES era is rated fairly highly is because I don't remember there being as many trash games while there were still quite a few good ones. The PS2 had lots of great games but also a lot of really shitty ones so that's why it balances out.

Yeah, that's kind of what I was going for when I was complaining about shitty sports games.

Curves don't go up forever. And the current climate of video game production reeks of desperation. At these production and marketing costs all it takes is for one big AAA hit to fail to sink the entire studio.

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I am not well versed with Wii catalog, so I could only speak up about PC/PS2.
As far as I remember, most PS2 games that were circulating my group of friends were at worst janky, but nothing quite broken, so you might be right on that quality.

very accurate

>upset
I'm just trying to improve his credibility.

For them, quality is directly dependent of how much propaganda the game has. That's why they push the "games are better now" while infecting non-stop every possible franchise.

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>I don't remember
yeah because you weren't paying attention. go watch AVGN or some shit

Nope.

Around that time a lot of shovelware devs learned to simply rip off other games, including how they controlled, so many of those games were fairly playable. They were just bad versions of decent games, although they could still get really terrible sometimes, especially if they were going for something "unique".
In the NES and earlier age you weren't even guaranteed to get a working game and many of them didn't just think to copy preexisting games, so you usually got games with horrible controls and design. Plus this was around the time that many IP holders wanted to milk video games for money but didn't realize that it actually took effort, so you had games being made on shoestring budgets like E.T.
The Wii and the DS is bizarre because while shovelware games should have been better, they were fucked up due to the implementation of motion controls. The Wii's shovelware was similar to the PS2's "Bad version of a decent game" but with horribly broken motion controls which made it way worse. The DS had some of the most bizarre shovelware you could think of, as if they were trying to design things that weren't games at all like pic related. Also terrible touch screen control mini game collections.

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This just in: Women are now political. Please cease all production of media containing women.

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Yes and no which is what makes the graph wrong.

Enjoyment can't be measured but quality in terms of controls and amount of content are objective.

This leads to the 3D era being objectively worse than the 2D because action combat is incredibly shit in 3D. We understand the math but we demonstrably do NOT understand the nuance for why things move the way they do in 3D space.

And the only thing companies are really doing with it are making it as slow (and ironically as unrealistic, despite what idiots say) as possible so they can get you to pay for shit to skip the wait.

>Nintendo recovers the gaming market with the NES
will nintendo cultists ever stop pushing this debunked lie? they recovered console gaming in north america. that's it.

Oh yeah don't get me wrong I know the SNES has some steaming piles of buffalo diarrhea, but I don't think it had nearly as many as the previous generations or the PS2 era. Plus, most SNES shovelware was at least fairly functional and had some content if I remember.

I've been called a "Nintendo cultist", a "Snoygroid" and an "xbot" from the exact same chart. That's pretty impressive. It gives me the impression that I'm not the one with any biases towards one particular console.

In any case I guess I shouldn't have used "Market" since the graph was about game quality, not the actual economic state about video games. The NES/Famicom came out with some great games compared to the consoles before it and that's really what I was going for.

>but I don't think
Yeah because you weren't paying attention. Like I said it's hard to actually pick up shovelware by accident if you know what it is.