WESTERN RPGs

Is this the most cursed genre on earth

Will it ever recover or have we already played the best wrpgs of our lives

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>shooter
>shooter
>hack 'n slash

>Failout 3
>Ass Effect
>best rpgs
I can at least see why Diablo 2 is regarded so well, even if I personally couldn't care less for hack and slash.

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Real MVP coming through.

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There have been a few good ones in recent years. No good AAA ones unless you count Prey as an rpg

Diablo isn't an RPG
What the genre needs is more competent writers and developers who understand that a good RPG isn't about stats, loot or dungeons but about choices and their consequences

>Diablo isn't an RPG
It's more of an rpg than Mass Effect. Diablo doesn't even have a manual dodge/block button, because everything is dependent on your stats. It also has side quests, exploration, equipment and items, skills and spells

How is it not an RPG?

>DUDE MW2 IS AN RPG BECAUSE I CAN LEVEL UP MY PERK INTO A PRO PERK AND !!CHOOSE!! TO GO TO THE A FLAG OR TO THE B FLAG!!!!!

I'm not sure I'd call Prey an RPG. Immersive sims in general are a weird one because they are influenced by RPGs and have their elements, they are more interested in systems and player agency in environment, than in role-playing. Of them, Ultima Underworld and Deus Ex definitely are RPGs and I'd argue Dishonored is too to some extent, but System Shock and Prey not so much

Bro Far Cry 3 has skill trees, side quest, etc. but it's not an RPG because it lacks the most basic aspect of the genre - role-playing. Diablo is a hack&slash, you don't get to shape your character based on your choices, you just go to a dungeon to loot stuff

>Is this the most cursed genre on earth
No. Arena FPS, RTS, and especially Immersive Sims are worse off.

what would you say are the best WRPGs in the market?

It's a hack 'n slash dungeon crawler.

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>morrowind
>dragon age 2

Lmao

Can you role-play as a necromancer in Modern Warfare? A brawler? A sorceress? A barbarian? Do you have a fleshed out item and equipment system? Are there dungeons to explore?

Modern Warfare doesn't even have stats and skills. Shitty perks are no substitute.

Retard.

Glad ToEE got recognision, best combat in any D&D game to this day

most of those are not even CRPGs

He was making fun of user above
Nigger

>he picked the wrong box art of Wizards and Warrors, which belongs to another game, that isn't a crpg, that happens to have the same title
HAAAAAAA. This list was made by a fucking zoomer

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Western RPGs peaked with Ultima VII

No, it will be shit forever because it’s run by twitter posters. Where apparently it matters more to have diversity and multiple people you can fuck that good gameplay mechanics. BioWare got what they deserved. Go woke go broke.

Not the same user, but Which ones don't belong there? Honest question.

But the genre is doing better than ever.

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It's probably a zoomer who thinks crpgs are only isometric rpgs even though the first crpgs were first-person.

>Can you role-play as a necromancer in Modern Warfare
Martyrdom

we live and learn every day

>second worst game in the series
>game that killed its series
>game that is good but not as good as the first one
What a shitty opinion.

Every single game on that list sucks complete dick

Maybe I enjoy menus based RPGs

Play euro rpgs and cope.

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BG 3 isn't even out yet lol

But Wizardry it's there and it's first person.

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Yes, but seemed to disagree and think most games on the list are not crpgs.

>Three awful games
>They're not even RPGs
Best bait thread I've seen in a while.

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>shit
>shit
>good
what does OP mean by that

yep I though that. I now see I'm wrong sorry guys

That he has shit taste

Borger. But in all seriousness I’ve played those style games since I was a teenager, I’m happy there’s still some like it being made.

Mass Effect is literally just a talking simulator with extremely mediocre combat

They're going to save the genre

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And that’s somehow worse than your waifu ANIMU dating sim? Consider suicide weeb fuck

>Turn based
>Top-down
>Linear
Lmfao niggas unironically think this shit is good?

Retard. I never said anything about weeb RPGs. I don't even play those. I've played Mass Effect and I've been very disappointed with the games

Yes