Xeno was a deep and intellectual franchise before XC2 ruined it

So does Xenoblade 2, the plot starts at the eighth chapter out of ten once the game turns into a series of corridors.

reminder gnosticism is a meme

>Shulk, what did you think of the boxed lunch I made for you? You better be honest, or I'll get mad!
Such subtle, powerful character writing in the series, before XC2 infected it with anime tropes. What a travesty.

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i dont want to play this for cubic panties only

I'm glad Zig Forums is coming to the realization that Xeno was always shit and will always be shit

Pretty much the first cutscene with her has an upskirt due to how short her skirt is.

nope
2 was great
1 was dogshit

Yes

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SHIT taste

I TURNED MYSELF INTO A BULLET, BILLY! I'M BULLET JESSE!

look just sign the stupid petition i've got stuff to do

You're a fucking brainlet if you don't understand how Momo's model having panties is a direct tie to Gnosticism.Tired of Bladeweebs attempting to act they've been long time fans of the series since Gears.

Most Japanese games have bad pacing because their basic story structure is so much different than ours.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kishōtenketsu
In their four act structure, basically nothing happens in Acts 1 and 2 as we depict the daily life of the characters. In Act 3, some new element comes out of nowhere, intentionally "breaking" the harmony set up by Acts 1 and 2, then Act 4 ties everything together. That's why, in so many Japanese stories, the plot doesn't really "get going" until the middle-end, unlike in Western stories where the beginnings are low-stakes but are all building towards the ultimate conflict.

When a Western story fucks up the structure, you can say things like "Oh, Act 2 is a mess, because there's no rising tension" or something like that. When a Japanese story fucks up, it's sometimes difficult to even figure out what they were going for. And even when it works, the pacing is so different that it always feels a bit "off" from what you're naturally expecting.

shit bait

There's plenty of jrpgs where interesting stuff happens throughout and you don't need to wait until the very end to start getting some twists and answers. Even fucking Tales of got it right a couple times, like with Abyss.

Blade 2 is coomer trash with a shit battle system. Saga or even Gears is infinitely better

I think the difference between the ones that do and don't work is Act 2. If the development phase actually logically leads to the situation Act 3 disrupts, then it lends itself to the same tension-building we expect in our stories. If Act 2 is just the same setup as Act 1, then Act 3 genuinely comes out of nowhere and is irritating.

>shit battle system
sorry you were too dumb to find out how it works
100000000000x better then 1s battle

No i hate arpg shit in general. It doesn't help that the story and characters are in XB2 literal fucking retards. I gave that shit a pass in XB1 because the story and characters where actually good

But isn't this technically still a theme in the game? I remember there being more Momo type dolls or something and I think it was Albedo that just sort of had them around. I dunno if it was meant to be sexual or not but I think that would be part of it since Saga tries to be a bit more pretentious with the story and themes and such. Episode 1 was fun as fuck.

I remember as a kid I thought the developers forgot to remove the ability to see Momo's panties. I was jacking off like crazy to her upskirts back then.

Good fucking times. Probably why my pantsu fetish is so strong till this day.

>characters are in XB2 literal fucking retards
> XB1 because the story and characters where actually good
i want to beat the shit out of your dumb brain for being such a degenerate

Sorry that the truth hurts user. Also both of them don't even compare to XenoGears

I couldn't stand to finish that series. What happened to Albedo though? He was my favorite.

The first game was comfy with many memorable moments and locations. It was XS2 that was half flashback half nothing happening besides the very end of the game. Literally the Empire Strikes Back of Xenosaga, which is critically overrated with 80% of it being boredom.

fun fact, they removed the ability to do that in the menu in the usa version
those couple of pictures here are japanese exclusive

Has anyone played Xenosaga I&II?
I'm getting decent at moonspeak but it has some serious infodumps of scientific and sci-fi terms.
Is it good enough that it's worth playing through it even if my pace will be a bit slower than the original PS2 games in English?
I want to replay the trilogy, but not sure if I should play 1,2,3 or 1&2, 3.

Xenosaga 1 still holds up from a gameplay perspective. 2 on the other hand is very clunky. I never got to play Saga 3 so I wouldn't know

I mean she pretty much is a sexbot maid abd her entire character is about being mortified of how she is just a mass produced piece of hardware. It's pretty much an actual sad fact.

You should, 3 is absolutely amazing with a very intense story.

He's talking about the DS game.
I tried it when i was a fledgling moon decoder and chickened out. There's just so much reading, as you would expect.

MIYUKIS NEW INVENTION IS NOT BAD AT ALL

Isn't she supposed to be some cutting edge electric warfare Realian?