>Wanted peace on the world and to stop all conflict >lost all his friends >his vision of the world was changed because Sigint fucked up and made some AIs and Skull Face going rogue >lost the two closest person he had, big boss and The Boss >was betrayed by one of his most trusted agent (Skull face) >was locked up in an empty apartment, always checked on but never seeing anyone >stayed in a coma for 45 years >was killed by his old friend, who thought he hated him. >was said to be the root of all evils when in reality, he regretted most of his choices and just wanted his friend back.
Wasn't Zero's vision not a "world without border" but "a world with only one border"? >This world will become one. I have found the way. Race, tribal affiliations, national borders... even our faces will be irrelevant. The world that The Boss envisioned will finally become a reality, and it will make mankind whole again.
This >game in WW2 >the boss is a support character, you see some of her actions and have her playable in a short sequence, but not too much to not "break the legend" >have Zero POV on her >have the soldier from the tape to be another important character, the one who died in egypt with Zero and Boss being his friends, have him to be Big Boss father, explaining why The Boss and Zero are the only one calling big boss by his real name "Jack" and not "John".
Henry Nelson
Implementing NWO is wrong. Big Boss and his goal of eternal war isn't right either, but that doesn't make Zero not wrong.
Dominic Price
>"world without border" but "a world with only one border" no difference
Jayden Myers
>Sigint fucked up and made some AIs
I thought he did it on Zero's orders
Ryder Gomez
Didn't Big Boss just want to be his own little world police force though? kind of like Anonymous if they had guns and instead of hacking they just terrorised the oppsition?
Elijah Lopez
Big Boss wanted a world for soldier, not a world at peace for the civilians. Zero wanted technologies and he did had an eye on AIs, but Sigint didn't made the AIs right, gave them too much freedom i presume. but Sigint was the head of the patriots until his death in 2005 due to Ocelot
Wyatt Thomas
Who was right anyway in the MG world? The Boss vision of the world was way too optimistic. even without the patriots the world of MG is a fucked up place (See MGRR as an example)
Asher Cook
at least he's at peace now, and wont have to see what the James Bond films became.
Easton Fisher
What is this gay commie shit
Adam Jones
Big Boss originally wanted mercenary state that could trump any nation's military so the mercs and soldiers could choose which side they wanted to fight on, but warped into wanting endless war so his mercenary business would always be running like a well oiled machine, but that was practically retconned because Kojima likes Big Boss too much to commit making him bad.
Solidus, since it was before the patriots had implemented so much control that the world would still be livable without them. Solid was also right, since he put duty first and didn't stop fighting until there was no more fight.
Ian Allen
Maybe the bond movies are different in MG, after all, they have a lot of different presidents, and some political situations are different too. as an example, in 2018 in the MG world, immigration in Europe has lowered a lot.
Lincoln Martin
>mutts do not know Rousseau Good lord, read a book for once in your life.
Angel Anderson
If Kojima ever wanted to return to MGS, this is the only thing I’d want. To tickle his movie fetish it can have the tone and aesthetics of movies like Guns of Navarone and The Great Escape. After seeing the war sequences in Death Stranding, I wanted this more than ever.
Kevin Wood
I will laught my ass if big boss is in whatever is the next MG and is made evil again because Kojima left.
As for Solidus, he had the right idea but was way too extreme in his actions. if he had won, i wonder what would he have done (he didn't had much time left. but sometime i think i let Raiden win because in a twisted way, he still loved him as a son, more than big boss to any of his clones.)
as for solid snake, he wasn't a bad dude but he was a pawn for all of his military career, from 1995 to 2014.
Juan Cruz
If Kojima return, he probably would have The Boss as the protag though. and i don't really want that as i think it would break her legend.
Well, Kojima returning could still happen later, even if i think the next MG project still will be without him. Konami working with old devs is not new, if Kojima is starting to get broke on money, then i think he will return on MG just for this.
Joseph Russell
Who is the most based character with boss genetics, and why is it liquid?
Elijah Taylor
Liquid deserve more than being "angry man about his gene" shit i would love a game in his pov during the gulf war. would not even take too much budget from Konami as they could reuse V gameplay and even some assets as Irak is not that different from Afghanistan. a middle budget game would be a good way to start things.
Liam Ward
That’d be great, I’d love to see hd liquid. He’s the one character whose ingame model in 1 didn’t do his awesome design justice
Zachary Reyes
The Boss's will, according to MG characters: >Zero NEW WORLD ORDER
>Big Boss A WORLD OF SOLDIERS... NO WAIT, IT'S WORLD PEACE! FUCK HER!
>Venom A WORLD WITH NO SOLDIERS AND WAR!
>Solid Snake A world where no one forces their belief on the rest of the population; everyone fights for what they believe in instead of changing the world for what they believe in. Keeping the past and building the future are one and the same thing.
>Skullface WORLD PEACE, EXCEPT THAT WAR *IS* PEACE! BLAH BLAH ENGLISH LANGUAGE BLAH BLAH
Angel Hughes
Fuck lads, I’ve been waiting for the legacy collection I ordered on eBay for like a week, it says it’ll be here tomorrow but it’s not even in my state yet. I wanna play mgs2 so bad
Jonathan Barnes
Solid was a pawn through his whole career, no doubt, but the friendships he made along the way (otacon, sunny, emma) made the final outcome possible, and the patriots had no involvement in that.
Alexander Nguyen
>Forgetting SANS LINGUA FRANCA for SkullFace
Jacob Martinez
So Zero >war dictatorship BB >war dictatorship Venom >war dictatorship Snake >sane world where the status quo is balanced, fighting is here to stay and so is the hot topic issues about peace, pollution and nuclear weapons (i.e. nothing gets solved!) Skullface >war dictatorship ???
Juan Reyes
>and i don't really want that as i think it would break her legend. this already happened in the peace walker secret tapes EVA gives you I've never heard such a long string of bullshit in my life.
John Mitchell
Pretty much. All the villains in MGS have a "same energy" aura
Samuel Murphy
>everyone fights for what they believe in instead of changing the world for what they believe in these two can't coexist. people fighting for what they believe in implies that change will occur, otherwise the fighting is pointless. the boss was a retard and 4 beta virgins ruined the world cause they listened to her stupid shit.
Andrew Jackson
I like to imagine that Moonraker is the last Bond film he watched in his small ass apartment before falling to the parasites.
