Why does Melee get hate for being a game like AoE2 or SC that has fans 20 years later still keeping the game alive...

>Historically accurate
>Chinese don't get access to gunpowder, something they invented
>Gunpowder in general is pathetically weak
>Mesoamerican civilizations are better than most western civs
Yeah nice historically accurate game you have there

because people enjoy it and with that Zig Forums must be contrarian about it regardless, also they try to belittle the game with it "having" pedos, smellies and others when that's related to the newest instalment.
Good games don't get discussed for their gameplay since why do that when you can just spite people for just to get a kick of dopamine off of it, unless it's a tournament thread now that's something of worthwhile value

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Every normalfag that I know that is into vidya make fun of the Smash players though
If you had some irl friends you'd probably know this.

I don't know. I find it impressive a game that was abandoned by its creator and in fact never really got any true support from it was able to maintain relevance for so long solely due to the community and the excellence of the game itself.
It's also not rare to hear fighting game fans complain how the succeeding entry of their game of choice is worse than the previous but they still all jump into the new game and let the old one rot despite considering it to be a better game. Of course, the lack of Nintendo's support for the Smash esport scene also means Melee players don't lose anything by not moving on, the same can't be said for the other scenes.

stinky

Tried reading through the in game archives or playing the campaigns?
Gunpowder is incredibly strong and hand cannons are why Franks and Goths are toptier, Turks/Teutons are so strong in the late game and so on.

Britannia rules the waves and no naval bonuses or thumb ring, almost like it's for balance reasons. Also no gunpowder while dominating the majority of the world.

>African civs can build university's
Meso's are decent but only really shine on De_Dust2 autism and Supplies made their counters more accessible. Most top civs are Western currently.

the ultimate playerbase + hbox

>If you had some irl friends you'd probably know this
Projection city

the community bans you for wrong think

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>>Chinese don't get access to gunpowder, something they invented
Chinese always had gunpowder, you're probably thinking of Block Printing (which was added to their tech tree in definitive edition)

>Gunpowder is incredibly strong and hand cannons are why Franks and Goths are toptier
Lies! Goth players NEVER build Archery Ranges. If you removed the Stable and Archery Range from their tech tree it would be months before any of them noticed.

I thought all soijak and derivatives get modded.

Because the fans keep the game alive by pretending everything newer than it is literally unplayable.

These fucking edits crack me up.

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Buzzwords are not an argument

Never seen sc and aoe grandpas go out of their way to shit on the entire series except the one entry they can play.

Only on Zig Forums

it sucks, i hate it, and baby back bitches can't play unless they have a broken controller of which there was only 2% of all controllers were which aren't even made anymore and sakurai even told people not play it in the shitty baby ways that they were

The only civ there that is usuable unironically is the Franks and they're op for their cavalry, not their fucking hand cannons.

>Chinese always had gunpowder
They literally never did.
ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Hand_Cannoneer

>Goths
They are trash.

TF2 is rocking at the same amounts of players. Stop calling it dead it's not gonna die before 2025

Brawl and 4 are unplayable. Ultimate is a step in the right direction but it's still way worse than Melee in terms of pure gameplay, not to mention the fact that the online is just as trash as ever so you pretty much have to go to local events regularly to git gud, which is not only inconvenient but not possible during covid.

Nintendo fans on this site are retarded manchildren who will defend everything they ever do even if they have a glaringly obvious superior thing going on like Melee compared to Brawl/4/Ult

>play against franks
>know knights are guaranteed and Frank archers are shit
>spears are the obvious counter
>beat high cost gold units with trash
>Franks need castles to go axemen to play against spears, still struggle against monks
>Axemen have shit range and lose to range/spear, poor vs siege, take time to mass, exist as a support unit for frank cav
>Hand Cannons completely outclass axemen in range/damage/ability to mass and beat any melee unit except condo's

Almost like Goths and Teutons also have poor archers and HC's solve their issues.

Goths/Franks/Huns/Vikings/Celts/Teutons/Incas/Slavs/Malians/Brits and then Meso's are currently top civs due to supplies, even with poor pathing on DE which just got 'patched' and should help them further.

>>Goths are trash
Top 3 civ since DE released. Currently #1 yet again on AoEstats. You come across as yet another parrot who doesn't understand more than a perceived metagame from what you yourself have heard repeatedly.

FYI I main Malian/Mongols/Japs and almost never lose to Franks with how predictable they are. Goths also used to be one of my main back on AoE2HD and hand cannons are the reason they dominate lategame with their flood.